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[Sniper Behind Ya]

Wanted to test out Snub-Nose PPC. Kitted out my AWS-8Q with max amount of (surprise!) 6 Snub-Nose PPCs. And a Medium Pulse Laser because there was a 1 slot energy hard point.

Set my firing groups to 2 SNPPCs on Left for 16 burst, 4 SNPPCs Right for 32 burst, and the MPL by itself for face tanking.

My first run out was in the steamy Caustic Valley map. You guessed it. 7 kills.

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

[John Bronco]

Nice, you even did one mostly by yourself.

[Saved By The Bell]

Dont punish poor tier 5 guys.

[martian]

SedHurtYa, on 22 May 2021 - 06:33 AM, said:

Wanted to test out Snub-Nose PPC. Kitted out my AWS-8Q with max amount of (surprise!) 6 Snub-Nose PPCs. And a Medium Pulse Laser because there was a 1 slot energy hard point.
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My first run out was in the steamy Caustic Valley map. You guessed it. 7 kills.

Congratulations!

John Bronco, on 22 May 2021 - 06:34 AM, said:

Nice, you even did one mostly by yourself.

In the end, it is the team victory that counts. And he contributed nicely.

[w0qj]

Just curious...are you an elite, did you kill with lots of head-shots?

7 kills by inflicting merely 420 damage seems on the low side to me...

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By the way, once you get your Ace of Spades for 8 Killing Blows in a game, perhaps it's time to move on...

Edited by w0qj, 22 May 2021 - 07:37 AM.

[Sniper Behind Ya]

w0qj, on 22 May 2021 - 07:36 AM, said:

Just curious...are you an elite, did you kill with lots of head-shots?

7 kills by inflicting merely 420 damage seems on the low side to me...

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By the way, once you get your Ace of Spades for 8 Killing Blows in a game, perhaps it's time to move on...

Haha! Super trying! I feel that this is a headhunting build.

DEFINITELY a headhunting build. Already got a headshot in 4th match using this.

Edited by SedHurtYa, 22 May 2021 - 09:00 AM.

[w0qj]

Do have fun getting your Ace of Spades, killing 8 seals...oops... 8 Killing Blows in one game

[kapusta11]

Just realized

4 SNPPCs:
24 tons 32 damage 28 heat 310m range

2 HPPCs:
20 tons, 30 damage, 27 heat, 621m range

Literally no point in using SNPPCs.

[w0qj]

Heavy PPC (HPPC) has minimum range, so if a Light gets in range and you have no backup weapons, and no Teammate to cover you, you are literally toast...

Snub Nose PPC has no minimum range... so is a 100% brawler weapon...

[CFC Conky]

w0qj, on 22 May 2021 - 08:36 AM, said:

Heavy PPC (HPPC) has minimum range, so if a Light gets in range and you have no backup weapons, and no Teammate to cover you, you are literally toast...

Snub Nose PPC has no minimum range... so is a 100% brawler weapon...

You can use the four spare tons to equip backup weapons.

In any case, better not tell Nightbird about this, snubs are supposed to be poop now.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[Leone]

That won't actually change anything you know. A good run with meh weaponry doesn't make 'em any better. If they'd gotten three KMDD's then I'd say, yeah, awesome job maybe weapons not as bad as it seems on my mediums. Here the pilot did good, prolly stuck to the team and did a good job of cleaning up for 'em. Solid match, plenty of skill securing half the team and being lead on another kill.

The reason most folk like to see both match screens, (With the other names all crossed out an such,) is so they can see how else the match went. If there's a supernova with 800 damage that might mean our pilot was doing some solid aiming, coring expose mechs but the LRM sandblaster got the KMDD credit. If there was a Kodiak-3 with 800 damage maybe our pilot was battle budding it up and got the lucky finishing shots whilst the bear did the heavy lifting.

No disrespect to the pilot, that's just how it reads with 400 damage and seven kills. From here it looks like mostly secures. Which are a valid part of the team since it clears the mech from the field before the enemy can get more damage downrange, but having the team scores really gives us the wider picture.

~Leone

Edited by Leone, 22 May 2021 - 11:48 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

420 damag.
Not great, not terrible.

[R0AHN]

w0qj, on 22 May 2021 - 08:36 AM, said:

Heavy PPC (HPPC) has minimum range, so if a Light gets in range and you have no backup weapons, and no Teammate to cover you, you are literally toast...

Snub Nose PPC has no minimum range... so is a 100% brawler weapon...

Solution: add on some MLAS (or MPLS if you free up some tonnage). That's what I've got built on my AQS-8Q and it works great.

[KodiakGW]

Saved By The Bell, on 22 May 2021 - 06:35 AM, said:

Dont punish poor tier 5 guys.

I wouldn’t worry about that. A good number of them are turning out to be either Alt accounts of top players “testing to see how long it gets them to T1” (one actually posted a screen shot of his game on these forums), or top players coming back and being placed into T5. When I was checking out player numbers for this month to see where it stood, I noticed a number of familiar names I did not see when I was playing more Sep-Nov 2020. Checked Jarl’s and they were top,players I saw all the time way back that stopped playing. Most seasons they were 98-99%.

So, yes, people at the top of their game, with full stables of mechs, plenty of CBills, plenty of weapons and components to make optimal builds, and enough Mech XP/SP to level them are going up against new players. Never mind that they can also group up with old friends running said Alt accounts.

Good times.

[R0AHN]

KodiakGW, on 25 May 2021 - 02:27 AM, said:

I wouldn’t worry about that. A good number of them are turning out to be either Alt accounts of top players “testing to see how long it gets them to T1” (one actually posted a screen shot of his game on these forums), or top players coming back and being placed into T5. When I was checking out player numbers for this month to see where it stood, I noticed a number of familiar names I did not see when I was playing more Sep-Nov 2020. Checked Jarl’s and they were top,players I saw all the time way back that stopped playing. Most seasons they were 98-99%.

So, yes, people at the top of their game, with full stables of mechs, plenty of CBills, plenty of weapons and components to make optimal builds, and enough Mech XP/SP to level them are going up against new players. Never mind that they can also group up with old friends running said Alt accounts.

Good times.

Yep. Mostly after coming back a few weeks ago I've noticed it's a mix of new and old players at the lower tiers. It is good to see there are still some new players. It's not just old players coming back.

Just as a general recommendation for anyone who is still playing in lower tiers: don't be salty at people who are obviously new. Provide feedback that helps them. Bad play? Give recommendations on what to do next time. Encourage voice comms on PUGs.

Yeah, it's frustrating to have a team that goes full potato with a side of chili but it's all a learning process. Like one guy who was screaming at a Marauder player last night who was defaulting arm lock and obviously new? That crap isn't helpful and is a great way to turn people off the game.

[Meep Meep]

Speedy Plysitkos, on 22 May 2021 - 01:28 PM, said:

420 damag.
Not great, not terrible.

Comrade, the dosimeter shows its not 420 damage its 15,000 psr!

[Nightbird]

CFC Conky, on 22 May 2021 - 10:14 AM, said:

Better not tell Nightbird about this, snubs are supposed to be poop now.

Guess I'm wrong, snubs are good now.

https://leaderboard....rch?u=SedHurtYa

[JediPanther]

A mech that gets low damage with kills does more to win a match than a mech with tripile damage numbers and only one-two kills.

[Leone]

Incorrect. I've been in matches where I've gotten 4 kill with ~300 damage because I brought a slow under-geared engine to quickplay and my team actually played aggressive and I was on cleanup since I couldn't keep up with the pack. I've also been in matches where me and a light rolled up the flank with snipers and lrms popping every mech we flushed outta cover where-in we only got two kills between us but got top damage. (seriously, anyone who manages to make top 4 damage in match in a locust deserves some accolades, I was running blackhawk, so nothing special for me.)

No, in general, yeah I concur. I was overheating on rubilte last night, won my brawl and turned off override to cool down when an enemy dual gauss walked around the corner and popped my cockpit whilest I'd been damaged, but yet to have my armour breached. Minimum damage for the kill, and a rather skilled shot as the pilot aimed where my cockpit'd be when I finished powering up since they caught me mid cycle. Smart move, very skilled, low numbers.

~Leone.

Edited by Leone, 26 May 2021 - 10:17 AM.

[KodiakGW]

Nightbird, on 26 May 2021 - 06:50 AM, said:

Guess I'm wrong, snubs are good now.

https://leaderboard....rch?u=SedHurtYa

Using Jarl’s to,shame someone. Just Wow. Maybe take a look at this season stats for him. Near even K/D and W/L. Highest average match score since 2018. So yeah, I guess it is working out for him.

Seems like somebody is still mad they took away his 300m 50 pinpoint alpha for 4 hardpoint toy. [Redacted]

Edited by Armchair General, 27 May 2021 - 02:38 AM.