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[pattonesque]

2-300 damage is not substantial, and I’m not MechNexus

[pattonesque]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 06:49 PM, said:

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and assaults usually average more than that. I did 1600 damage once in a PHX-2, which is my highest-damage match in any mech. It's one of my favorite mechs, a good meta pick these days, and really clicks with me. I average about 440 damage per match in it, which is still not much better than my worst assaults and significantly less than, say, my dakka Mad Cat or brawler Atlas. It's even less than extremely efficient killing mechs like my HGauss Annihilator, which simply one- or two-shots a lot of mechs and has less opportunity to rack up damage.

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 06:49 PM, said:

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I mean this seriously: it's not good to get so angry that you do this. I usually take a walk or something.

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[pattonesque]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 07:03 PM, said:

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Like I said before, it's not your stats, it's the fact that they do not back up what you repeatedly claim

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[Vxheous]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 05:28 PM, said:

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I don't often play light mechs, but when I do, I seem to have no trouble averaging over 200 damage. 4 different light mechs, 4 different playstyles. Adder = 2 ERPPC extreme ranged trading. Flea = knife fighting range. Incubus = mid ranged poke. Wolfhound = "short" (300m) ranged poke.

Thing is, my mediums, heavies, and assaults that get played a lot, will average 600+ damage, which means anecdotally, light mechs are still the weakest class.

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[Vxheous]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 08:06 PM, said:

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Lights aren't OP, they're extremely easy to kill, and while I don't play lights often anymore, I have played them at Div A competitive level circa 2017. As to skilled.....I've won two MWO World Championships, so...ok. Most of my mediums, heavies, and assaults average at least 200 more damage/game than my lights do.

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Vxheous, on 14 June 2021 - 08:02 PM, said:

I don't often play light mechs, but when I do, I seem to have no trouble averaging over 200 damage. 4 different light mechs, 4 different playstyles. Adder = 2 ERPPC extreme ranged trading. Flea = knife fighting range. Incubus = mid ranged poke. Wolfhound = "short" (300m) ranged poke.

Thing is, my mediums, heavies, and assaults that get played a lot, will average 600+ damage, which means anecdotally, light mechs are still the weakest class.

I'd love to see those stats with the proper 7-8 meter tall light heh

[pattonesque]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 08:16 PM, said:

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Atlas has been massively buffed in terms of mobility, this is really only true now with a terrible Atlas pilot

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[Vxheous]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 08:16 PM, said:

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The Atlas is quite nimble now, for an Atlas....

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[SCRAPMETAL99]

Vxheous, on 14 June 2021 - 08:09 PM, said:

Lights aren't OP, they're extremely easy to kill, and while I don't play lights often anymore, I have played them at Div A competitive level circa 2017. As to skilled.....I've won two MWO World Championships, so...ok. Most of my mediums, heavies, and assaults average at least 200 more damage/game than my lights do.

oh wait are you saying im a skilled light pilot .....because yh your a champ winnner and im at around 300dmg average for my lights

just wish you lot would stick to one thing some of you think lights can only do more than 200dmg if your a skilled pilot some of you think 400 odd dmg is normal for a light so what is it then

[pattonesque]

buddy, we're just saying that assaults on average do more damage than lights. A lot of excellent players have told you they average X damage with lights and X+200 with assaults

[SCRAPMETAL99]

pattonesque, on 14 June 2021 - 08:34 PM, said:

buddy, we're just saying that assaults on average do more damage than lights. A lot of excellent players have told you they average X damage with lights and X+200 with assaults

well i average 300 dmg in lights and 350dmg in assaults so yh there you go if you say what im saying is irrelevant so does that make what you say irrelevant
and as far as ive seen theres been alot more players stating lights are op than what you have defending them so yh guess the numbers are on my sdidse here oh but wait there all skilled players they definatly know everything right

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[Y E O N N E]

You average 300 damage in Lights with meta or meta-adjacent builds and 350 damage in Assaults with completely crap kitchen-sink builds.

Go familiarize yourself with a 4LB-10X Slepnir, play it for awhile, and them come back and reassess.

[Y E O N N E]

SCRAPMETAL99, on 14 June 2021 - 09:11 PM, said:

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So you admit that Atlas is crap?

FYI, we all know the types of builds you run on your Assaults because we can see it on your stream and on other players' streams when you are in the same match. We also see the final results in the stats page, which is accessible on this very website and takes 30 seconds to look up. I can correlate that you have worse performance when you play Assaults more and I can correlate your worse performance in Assaults with the bad builds I see posted around, one of which happens to be that Atlas. That Altas and has become your totem because you are in it so frequently.

You call me the joke, and that's fine. If I bring hilarity to you I consider that a positive thing, at least you are smiling in your ignorance. We should all be so fortunate.

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[justcallme A S H]

If I had a dollar for every time someone cherry-picked a screenshot to "prove" their arugment...

I'd own 15 Spirit Bears.

[Y E O N N E]

I have a Blackjack that runs 2 AC/2, 4 LMG, 3 ML, and runs at 64.8 kph with its tiny 180-sized engine. I have oodles of comparable games I would love to link but can't right this second because I'm currently about 11,000 km away from my PC and the only screenshots I have on this laptop come from running good builds. I would not call that Blackjack a good build, just a fun one.

If you were pulling games like that in your Atlas regularly, you would not be so convinced Lights are OP. By your own implications, that kind of performance is an anomaly.

[justcallme A S H]

lol

[Y E O N N E]

You said Lights are OP because you out-damage Assaults regularly with them, but then you post a screenshot of you out-damaging your Lights and claim you also get scores like that regularly.

You realize you have just destroyed the entire line of reasoning you were using to claim Lights OP, right?

Are you out-damaging your Assaults with Lights more often than you are out-damaging Lights with Assaults? Or is it the reverse? It can't be both.

[Leone]

Seriously dude, fix your capslock. I never bother reading your posts when you go all Caps on me. If you want people to take you seriously, and with all that posting you do seem to want something, try typing like a regular human being. Trust me, it works! I might actually read your posts!

~Leone.

[MechNexus]

The hell did I just wake up to?

[Leone]

Pointless angry belligerence. The height of trolling fashion nowadays.

~Leone.

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