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[Sean Lang]

Build: https://mwo.nav-alph...=9318346b_TBR-S

[1453 R]

Hm.

I would wonder about the validity of the single jump jet, outside of edge-case scenarios such as the beginning of your gameplay video where you've found what amounts to chest-high cover and only need a few meters' air to get over it and pop-burn. The single jet gets you precisely nowhere in terms of accessing terrain, mostly serving as just an aid to getting up hills a bit faster. Using the Prime CT nets you an additional 5% general dissipation, as well as an extra ton to use on an additional heat sink. That would seem to be a noticeable improvement in heat efficiency for a very hot-running build, at a relatively minimal cost in mobility.

[w0qj]

That's my question too... TBR-WAR (Timber Wolf Warrant hero mech) has +5% heat dissipation in CT, vs "just in case you need JumpJets" TBR-S Center Torso.

Same situation for TBR-Prime(I)

1) Does micro-JumpJetting while being hit by enemy fire still help spread damage around your mech?

2) Does 1x JJ in CT really help that much in Tier 1, and MWO Comp level games?

Edited by w0qj, 15 September 2021 - 09:24 AM.

[John Bronco]

Yes, 1 JJ significantly increases the Timby's survivability. There is no quirk package for the chassis that is more beneficial than a JJ, speaking from experience in T1 qp and comp.

Edited by John Bronco, 15 September 2021 - 09:24 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Yes, 1 JJ opens up a lot more movement options. Especially now. Its not great for poptarting especially with laser vomit but it can get you places where you otherwise wouldn't be able to go, especially on maps like mining collective.

[Nightbird]

I just use Warrant CT and 2JJ ST. Best of both worlds and +30% cbills.

Edited by Nightbird, 15 September 2021 - 09:49 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Nightbird, on 15 September 2021 - 09:48 AM, said:

I just use Warrant CT and 2JJ ST. Best of both worlds and +30% cbills.

You lose ECM though if you go that route.

[Nightbird]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 September 2021 - 09:58 AM, said:

You lose ECM though if you go that route.

Yep. ECM is nerfed this patch anyways. Maybe next time?

[Gas Guzzler]

Nightbird, on 15 September 2021 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yep. ECM is nerfed this patch anyways. Maybe next time?

Yeah, that wasn't intended so hopefully we get it back soon.

[w0qj]

Cannot wait until the "Bundle" Clan New Player Packs come out, with the total +10% CBills hanging/standing cockpit items

Just stick this onto above Sean Lang's TBR-S build, and you get extra CBills bonus

[Nightbird]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 September 2021 - 10:05 AM, said:

Yeah, that wasn't intended so hopefully we get it back soon.

Being space poor and having sunk cost into the Heros though, I handicap myself and use them lol

[MechB Kotare]

I use C, 7x cErml + 2c cLpl + ecm. Higher alpha. You might say ghost heat, but i think its managable with highest number of heatsinks and proper skill nodes activated. One jj isnt much of a deal, though i agree that on some maps it can be useful, and it can help spread damage in certain situations.

[ThreeStooges]

I use the free one with 2xlpl 2xmg 3-4smls and lrm 10x2. No skills on it yet.

[Castigatus]

I use the free one with a 4 MPL, 4 SRM6 + 4 fixed JJs build, which requires swapping out a few of the Cs pods for parts from the TBR-S to get the JJs and enough hardpoints in the right locations. It totally lacks long-range firepower beyond about 400m and runs kinda hot with both weapon groups active but seriously dishes out pain and the JJs give you a lot of extra mobility to find good positions to attack from.

I like to brawl and play cavalry style so I tailored it to fit that idea.

[Aedryel]

Look at that, it's my WolfBringer build in action!

[Aedryel]

MechB Kotare, on 15 September 2021 - 11:27 AM, said:

I use C, 7x cErml + 2c cLpl + ecm. Higher alpha. You might say ghost heat, but i think its managable with highest number of heatsinks and proper skill nodes activated. One jj isnt much of a deal, though i agree that on some maps it can be useful, and it can help spread damage in certain situations.

It's indeed highly situational, but:
1.) Even having only 1 JJ makes you able to take shortcuts (thus flank them) where normally you could not, especially on Rift and Canyon.
2.) Had a few times already when the 1 single JJ made me able to bail from a losing proposition.

That 1 ton of investment most certainly worth it, even if it's utilized on a few maps.

[Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-]

Also is JJ feathering is still a thing? Where it breaks the model enough to spread damage while running into cover? I still do it out of habit, but for people wondering about the benefit of 1 JJ it's helpful, if JJ feathering is still a thing.

[HauptmanT]

ThreeStooges, on 15 September 2021 - 01:49 PM, said:

I use the free one with 2xlpl 2xmg 3-4smls and lrm 10x2. No skills on it yet.

I did something really silly on my freebie.

4 Mpulse, AND 2 Spulse, 2 MG, 4 streak 2s for when they get in close. It almost works.
I've got enough longish range WolfLogs- Sorry, Madcats.

At least it gets 2 (or is it 4) JJs.

Edited by HauptmanT, 21 September 2021 - 11:41 AM.

[VeeOt Dragon]

who cares about "meta" fiddle around with it in the mechlab and find something that is fun for you. i have two Mad Cats (i'm an IS loyalsit so it will always be a Mad Cat to me) they were both from free giveaways the Warden being one of them. don't play them much at all so i don't know how i have them loaded (i think one has LRMs though)

[w0qj]

TBR-S(P) with +30% CBills bonus is now available via the Platinum Collection!

ECM + JJ + 2xLPL + 6xERML... amazing shoulder pod for hill humping... faints

Having loads of fun with this!