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[PocketYoda]

The freebies are meaningless the greed stems from us paying money to an ancient product that sees very little changes.. The greed is the devs taking our money and not putting anything of it into the game we fund..

Mechwarrior 5 was fun.. Now they are hinting at Mechwarrior 6 with stuff that should have been in 5 and the whole time almost zero goes into MWO..

That is the Greed has Won to me.

Edited by MechaGnome, 16 October 2021 - 06:07 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

I don't get it. MWO is a business. PGI is finally doing what people find worthy of paying for.

That is bad why?

[pbiggz]

FupDup, on 16 October 2021 - 11:00 AM, said:

Bruh

[w0qj]

MW6 with PvP also, similar to MWO?

MechaGnome, on 16 October 2021 - 06:05 PM, said:

The freebies are meaningless the greed stems from us paying money to an ancient product that sees very little changes.. The greed is the devs taking our money and not putting anything of it into the game we fund..

Mechwarrior 5 was fun.. Now they are hinting at Mechwarrior 6 with stuff that should have been in 5 and the whole time almost zero goes into MWO.. ...

Edited by w0qj, 16 October 2021 - 10:00 PM.

[Ignatius Audene]

... ok new caustic is meh

[Thorqemada]

MW6 is at this point in time pure speculation based on assumptions that may or may not come to fruition!

Edited by Thorqemada, 17 October 2021 - 04:06 AM.

[Michelle Branch]

Always love coming back to the forums to see what goofy **** some nobody complains about.

[Adeptus Odren]

The recent changes made me love my old mechs again, and made me enjoy MWO again. Check my badge. I've been here from the start. OP has no idea about what he's talking about.

Edited by Adeptus Odren, 17 October 2021 - 06:31 AM.

[Dora the Konqueror]

Somebody take his shoes!

[GuardDogg]

Do not say it is greed. But ignorance has. When a game came from okay, to "Designed to make your life Miserable" Has.

Edited by GuardDogg, 17 October 2021 - 12:47 PM.

[randomxtc16]

This post is meant for Devs to reflect on their choices on ability to do right by the players.

Players want a better UI / New Content (maps/gamemodes) / New Mechs

Instead we get no new UI / No new content (just recycled/reskinned/reshaded garbage maps) / No new Mechs (not a new variant of a mech no one plays)

They recieve a lot of money for overpriced hero variants & other purchaseables but yet dont put it back into the game.

My skills or lack there of have nothing to do with the above stated, as I have stated facts... The game started losing money, people started losing interest because nothing new was brought to it for many years. The Devs are desperate to keep up their lifestyle and have choosen the cheapest path to achieve that. Their use of 1 person for "Redoing" the maps is proof of suchness.

Greed has won! Noone cares about "gamers making a difference (cauldron)," they dont pay the bills or get paid.

Once the Devs accept this, they will be able to make a better change for the game moving foward.

Better game = Better product = More people willing to Pay

Right now the state is; Lazy attempts = ****** product = Less people willing to play let alone pay...




Do right

[ScrapIron Prime]

Random,

You have not stated facts, you've stated opinions. What do you know about the costs associated with running a company like this? How do you budget the game company YOU run, contract the server resources and maintenance, and maintain multiple product lines in order to keep YOUR developers and support staff employed?

Criticism is easy. Be proactive, be constructive. Do right.

[randomxtc16]

ScrapIron Prime, on 18 October 2021 - 02:25 PM, said:

Random,

You have not stated facts, you've stated opinions. What do you know about the costs associated with running a company like this? How do you budget the game company YOU run, contract the server resources and maintenance, and maintain multiple product lines in order to keep YOUR developers and support staff employed?

Criticism is easy. Be proactive, be constructive. Do right.

1 simple answer for all those questions


You make a better product that people will be interested in spending their time/money on so "the company" can afford keeping their staff employed.



Where is the better product though? Instead, turning FP maps into QP maps... Recycled/Reskinned/Reshaded... Need more be said?

Edited by randomxtc16, 18 October 2021 - 02:33 PM.

[pbiggz]

bro when they were selling 500 dollar gold skins, you coulda made this point.

if you're unhappy with the amount of content we're getting for a game this old, that's fine, but don't be a baby.

[randomxtc16]

pbiggz, on 18 October 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

bro when they were selling 500 dollar gold skins, you coulda made this point.

if you're unhappy with the amount of content we're getting for a game this old, that's fine, but don't be a baby.

Should've invested in real Gold with that $500, itd be worth 2x that by now.

No babies to be had here, just a player who enjoys the franchise and is watching it (the franchise) pour itself down the drain...
MW5, fun and all, but also broken in its own special way, now for the money grab DLCs (this is an industrial level problem though, not just MWO) until the "newgame with the desired PVP" come out. I understand its business but its bad business practices that are ruining things for everyone.
So here I stand as a player, Calling out the company to do right by its players if they want to secure that paycheck. We are not asking for MWO to be rebuilt from the ground up on a new engine, We want simple things (User friendly UI (esp. for the new people who join the game), New maps and game modes) that PGI either does not want to invest into because of lack of Funding or because they are working on a "New Game" to replace this one. If lack of funding is an issue, they need to just focus directly on a new game then, leaving this one (MWO) in the current state thats its in until the new game is released.

[ScrapIron Prime]

pbiggz, on 18 October 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

bro when they were selling 500 dollar gold skins, you coulda made this point.

I admit I had so much fun trolling people when those came out. I colored my Centurion all yellow and gold and told everyone it was a “gold centurion”. Despite not having the righttag and not actually existing, people got SO mad.

[Dora the Konqueror]

Yeah me and my golden fafnir.

[Curccu]

Adeptus Odren, on 17 October 2021 - 06:30 AM, said:

The recent changes made me love my old mechs again, and made me enjoy MWO again. Check my badge. I've been here from the start. OP has no idea about what he's talking about.

yes kinda weird that someone registering account (to forums at least) October 2020 says he has seen all of 11 years of games history, when game isn't even 11 years old.

[Sjorpha]

I've been very critical of pgi in the past, in many ways mwo has been handled terribly, but this complaint is really off the mark.

The game is old and hardly profitable enough to warrant major investments like brand new maps. As a player I'd like that too obviously, but that doesn't mean it's a realistic expectation or a sound investment.

As far as I can see pgi current direction for mwo is making a lot of sense. 1. working with the cauldron means balance changes are made by people who understand the game, this is the first time we've had sensible balancing in mwo.
2. Fixing map problems seems like a cost effective investment. There are some aspects of these fixes I don't like, I feel the maps are losing a bit of character and becomes too much like paintball courses, but the idea of putting a little money into fixing the maps is sound.
3. Being extra generous with free mechs, mc and so forth to people playing the events seems like a good idea during the decline of an old game.

None of this seems greedy.

My greatest wishes are still better matchmaking and a rebuilt community warfare, but I'm not sure it would be worth it. Matchmaker probably would be given its impact on retention.

Doing something like the cauldron for community warfare would be interesting, involving a group of unit representatives in fixing it.

I'm also missing any specifics in your balance complaint, what exactly do you think is a bad change and why?

[PocketYoda]

pbiggz, on 18 October 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

bro when they were selling 500 dollar gold skins, you coulda made this point.

if you're unhappy with the amount of content we're getting for a game this old, that's fine, but don't be a baby.

Wasn't playing this back then to see it.

Edited by MechaGnome, 19 October 2021 - 04:20 AM.