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[PocketYoda]

Is this mech bugged?

This mech states it has HSL+1 Er PPC yet when i add four i get the angry popup saying i will get extra heat if i use more than three?

Isn't 3 ppcs standard anyway before ghost heat?

So why have a mech that is suppose to run 4 ppc by default not being able too.. I wouldn't have wasted my MC on it if i'd known..

Edited by MechaGnome, 23 October 2021 - 06:02 PM.

[FupDup]

MechaGnome, on 23 October 2021 - 06:01 PM, said:

Isn't 3 ppcs standard anyway before ghost heat?

For PPCs, yes. For ERPPCs, no. ERPPCs are still at 2.

[PocketYoda]

FupDup, on 23 October 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

For PPCs, yes. For ERPPCs, no. ERPPCs are still at 2.

I tried normal ppcs and it still had a fit at me for too many? Because the quirk is HSL+1 Er PPC? shouldn't it be PPC?

Edited by MechaGnome, 23 October 2021 - 06:20 PM.

[FupDup]

MechaGnome, on 23 October 2021 - 06:18 PM, said:

I tried normal ppcs and it still had a fit at me for too many? Because the quirk is HSL+1 Er PPC? shouldn't it be PPC?

I think Cauldron's motivation is that they want you to combine ERPPCs with Gauss.

As to why the regular Peeper doesn't benefit, I'm assuming that they might think it would overlap too much with the AWS-8Q's role (but then again they just made the Dragon Slayer also be able to do triple HPPCs like the Awesome can).

Edited by FupDup, 23 October 2021 - 06:25 PM.

[pattonesque]

MechaGnome, on 23 October 2021 - 06:18 PM, said:

I tried normal ppcs and it still had a fit at me for too many? Because the quirk is HSL+1 Er PPC? shouldn't it be PPC?

read it again, it's for ERPPCs only. So it can alpha three ERPPCs with no ghost heat but can't do the same for four regular PPCs

by the by, if you want to make the Kaiju a real powerful sniper, you can do 3ERPPC/2LGR

[suffocater]

A little off-topic, but I have to say, the Kaiju is one of the best mechs for me to carry 2RAC5 and some backup lasers. High mounts is key for RAC. Ever tried it?

[justcallme A S H]

suffocater, on 24 October 2021 - 04:35 PM, said:

A little off-topic, but I have to say, the Kaiju is one of the best mechs for me to carry 2RAC5 and some backup lasers. High mounts is key for RAC. Ever tried it?

Try two LBX10 and MRMs, all mounted just above cockpit. Very nice, good farm.

Although the Gauss/ERPPC Combo is incredibly strong on it.

[PocketYoda]

pattonesque, on 23 October 2021 - 06:27 PM, said:

read it again, it's for ERPPCs only. So it can alpha three ERPPCs with no ghost heat but can't do the same for four regular PPCs

by the by, if you want to make the Kaiju a real powerful sniper, you can do 3ERPPC/2LGR

But its default loadout is 4x PPC so i can't even use the mech as default.. Thats what i'm saying.

Also i decided to run 6x snub ppc and fire 3 either side it works well but not as i would have liked.. As long as you control yourself and monitor heat its a powerhouse.

Edited by MechaGnome, 25 October 2021 - 06:06 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

There is nothing stopping you using 4 PPCs on the Kaiju.

[Navid A1]

MechaGnome, on 25 October 2021 - 06:05 AM, said:

But its default loadout is 4x PPC so i can't even use the mech as default.. Thats what i'm saying.

Also i decided to run 6x snub ppc and fire 3 either side it works well but not as i would have liked.. As long as you control yourself and monitor heat its a powerhouse.

You can do the same with normal PPCs. Fire 3 and 3 left and right.
This is a nice build you can try:
https://mwo.nav-alph...81deac6f_KGC-KJ

Edited by Navid A1, 25 October 2021 - 11:14 AM.

[PocketYoda]

justcallme A S H, on 25 October 2021 - 06:19 AM, said:

There is nothing stopping you using 4 PPCs on the Kaiju.

Sure if you want to alternate and risk ghost heat.. i meant firing the standard 4 with no ghost heat.. not gonna happen with its current loadout..

Also not a fan of standard ppcs as the 90 meter thing is instant death to you against anyone with a clue to what you are using.

Navid A1, on 25 October 2021 - 11:13 AM, said:

You can do the same with normal PPCs. Fire 3 and 3 left and right.
This is a nice build you can try:
https://mwo.nav-alph...81deac6f_KGC-KJ

As i said above yes its nice at range but any smart light pilots or any weight will literally eat you in close range with that build.. King crabs are slower and lights can literally jump down on you easy as..

Snub while shorter range will eat lights and more up close.

Edited by MechaGnome, 27 October 2021 - 12:32 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

PPCs have had the minimum range removed.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

justcallme A S H, on 27 October 2021 - 12:35 AM, said:

PPCs have had the minimum range removed.

softened, you meant to say.

[LordNothing]

its the same j-curve that clan lerms have.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 October 2021 - 08:53 PM.

[PocketYoda]

justcallme A S H, on 27 October 2021 - 12:35 AM, said:

PPCs have had the minimum range removed.

Which patch did it remove the 90 meters? Good news didn't see it.

[Ignatius Audene]

Just underrange similar 2 clan lrm

[w0qj]

July'2021 patch gave the Inner Sphere PPC a slight (exponential decay) damage below minimum range (similar to Clan LRM).

https://mwomercs.com...2440-20july2021

Also previously: Inner Sphere: PPC: increased to firing 3x without ghost heat penalty.

https://mwomercs.com...auldron-changes

MechaGnome, on 28 October 2021 - 12:13 AM, said:

Which patch did it remove the 90 meters? Good news didn't see it.

Edited by w0qj, 28 October 2021 - 12:37 AM.

[PocketYoda]

w0qj, on 28 October 2021 - 12:19 AM, said:

July'2021 patch gave the Inner Sphere PPC a slight (exponential decay) damage below minimum range (similar to Clan LRM).

https://mwomercs.com...2440-20july2021

Also previously: Inner Sphere: PPC: increased to firing 3x without ghost heat penalty.

https://mwomercs.com...auldron-changes

Thanks.

Anyone know what the actual damage is face to face?

[Ignatius Audene]

Near to 0. Like clan lrm (depends what u define as face 2 face). Their is fallofinfo in client mech db and the formula is avaible6

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 28 October 2021 - 11:44 PM.

[w0qj]

Yeah, I also tried PPC boat in Training Grounds, firing at 100m vs target, and at point blank range...

Near 0 meters, it's almost no damage face-to-face unfortunately... just like facetime Clan LRM situation...
(And more damage when it's closer to the 90 meter mark for PPC I guess).

Ignatius Audene, on 28 October 2021 - 11:14 PM, said:

Near to 0. Like clan lrm (depends what u define as face 2 face). Their is fallofinfo in client mech db and the formula is avaible6

Edited by w0qj, 29 October 2021 - 03:07 AM.