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[w0qj]

Just curious, why this above arrangement, that only the JR-K gets +1 Consumable Slot?

There are 3 others mechs with +1 UAV, but no additional Consumable Slot.

==> I personally feel that Raven RVN-3L of all mechs should also get +1 Consumable Slot (it already has +1 UAV).

Highlight from below source for everyone's easy reference:
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

<<LIGHT = 20-35ton>>

# JR7-IIC-3:	+1 UAV Capacity <MISSING +1 Consumable Slot>
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  JR7-K:	 +1 UAV Capacity, +1 Consumable Slot
  RVN-3L:	 +1 UAV Capacity <MISSING +1 Consumable Slot>

<<MEDIUM = 40-55ton>>

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  PXH-R*:	  +1 UAV Capacity <MISSING +1 Consumable Slot>

Edited by w0qj, 29 December 2021 - 08:38 AM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Right. The mechs without the extra slot can field 2 UAV's with but a single skill point in the Auxiliary tree. Advantage, but a minimal one.

[Escef]

Because quite frankly, the JR7-K needs the help more. Before the skill tree the JR7-K's only real selling point was having an extra module slot. Back in the "Rule of Three" days, I skilled up my Jenner K by using it as a consumable boat.

[LordNothing]

use the lppc quirk.

[John Bronco]

Per Cauldron, this was intentional and for balance reasons. Personally I agree with you.

[Meep Meep]

LordNothing, on 29 December 2021 - 12:11 PM, said:

use the lppc quirk.

Even with quad lppc its still a bad hitbox jenner with no ecm. Trying to leverage those pewpew tossers isn't easy in this cauldron world of large laser vomit with its 50~70 points of pinpoint damage. Even sweeping damage can open a component.

[LordNothing]

Meep Meep, on 29 December 2021 - 06:02 PM, said:

Even with quad lppc its still a bad hitbox jenner with no ecm. Trying to leverage those pewpew tossers isn't easy in this cauldron world of large laser vomit with its 50~70 points of pinpoint damage. Even sweeping damage can open a component.

if you are fighting at point blank range those would be issues. but the lppc is best used in the 300-max range. which has some useful advantages. like being able to out-range clan streak boats. big alphas are only useful when you can land the full alpha, and light mechs make that problematic. you have moments where it works, like if a light is being lethargic or is fighting in close quarters.

[ScrapIron Prime]

LordNothing, on 30 December 2021 - 12:39 PM, said:

if you are fighting at point blank range those would be issues. but the lppc is best used in the 300-max range. which has some useful advantages. like being able to out-range clan streak boats. big alphas are only useful when you can land the full alpha, and light mechs make that problematic. you have moments where it works, like if a light is being lethargic or is fighting in close quarters.

Right. its a Jenner, its going to be a rough ride no matter what you do. Never brawl in a Jenner.

With quad LPPC combined with HSL and cooldown quirks, it can lay down 20 pinpoint from 600m out has has no minimum in a pinch. Its issue is heat and speed, because you're not hitting 120 (talking before mobility tree) in that thing. Its really only a great mech if the enemy is staring at something else.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 30 December 2021 - 12:58 PM.

[Meep Meep]

LordNothing, on 30 December 2021 - 12:39 PM, said:

if you are fighting at point blank range those would be issues. but the lppc is best used in the 300-max range. which has some useful advantages. like being able to out-range clan streak boats. big alphas are only useful when you can land the full alpha, and light mechs make that problematic. you have moments where it works, like if a light is being lethargic or is fighting in close quarters.

*large laser vomit enters the chat*

I've poked out to fire off a salvo at optimal only to be opened up by laser wash on the jenner from someone on the other side of the map doing the same as me. It's not a brawling issue it's the new cauldron large laser meta. If I'm going to lppc on a light I'll take the ecm urbie or a spider 5d since both have much better hitboxes and the spider is a poptarting beast.

[D A T A]

makes sense, i did't do these quirks myself, but l'll post in the cauldron to ask about this

[GoodTry]

I agree too. It's not like the other mechs are all that great either.

Edited by GoodTry, 31 December 2021 - 10:19 AM.