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#81 martian

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:08 PM

View PostAncientRaig, on 01 April 2022 - 12:33 PM, said:

Is it just me, or is the Crael 6 tons underweight? Looking at the loadout on the pre-order page vs modifying the canon Crael in Megamek, dropping 10 tons of melee equipment for 4 tons worth of MGs doesn't quite add up and PGI isn't adding anything else that the canon Crael doesn't already have that would make up that 6 ton difference.

It seems that you are right.

There are two solutions:
A) If you use ten Heavy Machine Guns and two tons of HMG ammo, then you will get 65 tons. What do you think?

Two tons of ammo are not too much, but give the 'Mech MG ammo quirks and it starts to look differently.

B ) Just add six Single Heat Sinks for 16 total.
PGI probably copied the CRD-3R entry and forgot to add additional heat sinks.

Edited by martian, 01 April 2022 - 01:15 PM.


#82 FLG 01

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:14 PM

Question:

There is a "Special Badge" and a "Hero Badge"... is there no badge for the standard pack?
That would be strange.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:17 PM

View Postmartian, on 01 April 2022 - 01:08 PM, said:

It seems that you are right.

There are two solutions:
A) If you use ten Heavy Machine Guns and two tons of HMG ammo, then you will get 65 tons. What do you think?

Two tons of ammo are not too much, but give the 'Mech MG ammo quirks and it starts to look differently.

B ) Just add six Single Heat Sinks for 16 total.
PGI probably copied the CRD-3R entry and forgot to add additional heat sinks.


was answered repeatedly already... need to double armor for MWO and that's your tonnage

#84 martian

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:18 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 01 April 2022 - 01:14 PM, said:

Question:

There is a "Special Badge" and a "Hero Badge"... is there no badge for the standard pack?
That would be strange.

I have noticed this thing too, but I thought the PGI probably wants people to buy the Special Pack Addon.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:26 PM

Too expensive for me buy glad to see some excitement, people buying it, and a new mech coming. Great work guys!

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:27 PM

View PostNightbird, on 01 April 2022 - 01:17 PM, said:

was answered repeatedly already... need to double armor for MWO and that's your tonnage

I think that this is not the case.

EDIT:
Could you tell me what I am doing wrong?
"Crael"
(Yes, I know about Lower arm and Hand actuators)

Edited by martian, 01 April 2022 - 01:30 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:38 PM

View Postw0qj, on 01 April 2022 - 07:22 AM, said:

Dear MWO/PGI, please make CRD-8S(L) Loyalty Mech for the upcoming 2022 Annual (Loyalty) Rewards Programme! Posted Image
I wants ballistic hardpoints on my Crusader Posted Image



Hey w0qj, did you actually look at the hardpoint spread? Like 2 standard variants and the hero all have ballistics, so there you go, 1st off. 2nd off, I hate to burst you and Lexandro's collective bubble, but there is literally ZERO chance of the -8S appearing in MWO for 1 simple fact: We CANNOT crit split. Period. PGI will never implement it either, we've tried asking in the past and got a resounding no each time, so you both might as well give up that dream while you're ahead.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:42 PM

View Postmartian, on 01 April 2022 - 01:27 PM, said:

I think that this is not the case.

EDIT:
Could you tell me what I am doing wrong?
"Crael"
(Yes, I know about Lower arm and Hand actuators)


missed HS, SRM ammo, MG ammo (so 3 tons) on each side torso

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:48 PM

View PostAvalon91211, on 01 April 2022 - 01:38 PM, said:



Hey w0qj, did you actually look at the hardpoint spread? Like 2 standard variants and the hero all have ballistics, so there you go, 1st off. 2nd off, I hate to burst you and Lexandro's collective bubble, but there is literally ZERO chance of the -8S appearing in MWO for 1 simple fact: We CANNOT crit split. Period. PGI will never implement it either, we've tried asking in the past and got a resounding no each time, so you both might as well give up that dream while you're ahead.


I think its side torso ballistic hardpoints that people want.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 01:58 PM

View PostNightbird, on 01 April 2022 - 01:42 PM, said:

missed HS, SRM ammo, MG ammo (so 3 tons) on each side torso

Dammit!

Ten minutes ago the PGI's Store web page had "Crael" with 10 Heat Sinks and one ton of SRM ammo in the CT only.

Obviously Matt Newman has noticed that the "Crael" is missing some equipment and quickly edited the Store page..

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 02:16 PM

*NOTE: The 'Mech Specs on the Crusader order page have been updated to reflect the following changes:

'Mech Specs previously listed:
  • Engine
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Top Speed

'Mech Specs now listed:
  • Stock Engine
  • Stock Engine Top Speed
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Max Engine Top Speed

ALL VARIANTS
  • Armor values have been doubled on all Variants to represent in-game values.

CRD-5K
  • Moved the MRM Ammo that replaced the C3 from head to LT.

CRD-CR(CRAEL)
  • The left torso and right torso each get 1 ton MG ammo, 1 ton SRM ammo, 1 heat sink (12 heat sinks total now).
  • Added hand actuators.


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Posted 01 April 2022 - 02:26 PM

View PostDaeron Katz, on 01 April 2022 - 02:16 PM, said:

*NOTE: The 'Mech Specs on the Crusader order page have been updated to reflect the following changes:

'Mech Specs previously listed:
  • Engine
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Top Speed
'Mech Specs now listed:
  • Stock Engine
  • Stock Engine Top Speed
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Max Engine Top Speed
ALL VARIANTS
  • Armor values have been doubled on all Variants to represent in-game values.
CRD-5K
  • Moved the MRM Ammo that replaced the C3 from head to LT.
CRD-CR(CRAEL)
  • The left torso and right torso each get 1 ton MG ammo, 1 ton SRM ammo, 1 heat sink (12 heat sinks total now).
  • Added hand actuators.


I have got some questions regarding the Crusader, if you do not mind:

1. Could you tell us, if the Crusader will be added to MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries too?

2. Do you plan to add some CRD-8S-like version with high ballistic hardpoints placed in its side torso or torsos?

3. Would not be a good idea to place the Crusader on the splash screen instead of the Grand Dragon and the Thundebolt that debuted a year ago?

4. CRD-6T model should have the max engine rating of 390, not 370, if we follow the rule that the max engine is 1.2-times larger than the stock engine.. Are you sure that this is not a typo?

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 02:28 PM

View PostDaeron Katz, on 01 April 2022 - 02:16 PM, said:

*NOTE: The 'Mech Specs on the Crusader order page have been updated to reflect the following changes:

'Mech Specs previously listed:
  • Engine
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Top Speed
'Mech Specs now listed:
  • Stock Engine
  • Stock Engine Top Speed
  • Max Engine Rating
  • Max Engine Top Speed
ALL VARIANTS
  • Armor values have been doubled on all Variants to represent in-game values.
CRD-5K
  • Moved the MRM Ammo that replaced the C3 from head to LT.
CRD-CR(CRAEL)
  • The left torso and right torso each get 1 ton MG ammo, 1 ton SRM ammo, 1 heat sink (12 heat sinks total now).
  • Added hand actuators.


Thanks for the update.

To be fair, although the Collector Pack is $40 with no special variant the pre-order bonuses, as I mentioned in my previous post, do increase the overall value of the pack.

At standard pricing 500GSP are $25 and 3000MC are $15, for a total of $40 so I suppose you could argue that you are getting the mechs, PT and other swag for free.

In my imperfect opinion of course…

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 05:48 PM

View PostDaeron Katz, on 01 April 2022 - 02:16 PM, said:

*NOTE: The 'Mech Specs on the Crusader order page have been updated to reflect the following changes:

If you're willing to make changes to mechs to make them more interesting/unique, can we add a third AMS hardpoint onto the 5M on the Left Torso, please? Just a thought, otherwise it just feels a bit like a jumping 3R with a few less hardpoints. Plenty of IS variants with 2 ams hardpoints, but only the Corsair has more than 2. Just a thought.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 07:31 PM

Pre-order your Crusader Package before Jul. 19 11:59:59 (PDT) (Jul. 20th 6:59:59 UTC) and receive the following items as an added bonus when the Crusader ships Jun. 21

Doesn't make sense. It ships before the pre-order is over.

Edited by TheStranger, 01 April 2022 - 07:32 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:25 PM

View PostTheStranger, on 01 April 2022 - 07:31 PM, said:

Pre-order your Crusader Package before Jul. 19 11:59:59 (PDT) (Jul. 20th 6:59:59 UTC) and receive the following items as an added bonus when the Crusader ships Jun. 21

Doesn't make sense. It ships before the pre-order is over.

The deadline is probably supposed to be June 19. Posted Image

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:47 PM

Exactly, so you can see quirks/agility before you order if you care about performance.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:48 PM

Philosophical question: Is MWO a MechWarrior-themed game?

I consider MWO a MechWarrior-themed game; it does not fully adhere to BattleTech & MechWarrior lore, at least not 100% (but closer to 100%).

So if MWO & its MWO fans allow for a more loose interpretation for this MechWarrior-themed game, a but further away from following 100% lore, then we might have more mech variety, and perhaps more fun!

Dual ballistic LT/RT Atlas Hero, anyone? (Someone else mentioned in lore there's a dual ballistic LA/RA Atlas).
(Honestly, there's dual ballistic LT/RT Fafnir, Annihilator, Cyclops, Mauler, so why not Atlas?)

And Crusader CRD-8S with ballistic hardpoint hopefully;)


View PostAvalon91211, on 01 April 2022 - 01:38 PM, said:

Hey w0qj, did you actually look at the hardpoint spread? Like 2 standard variants and the hero all have ballistics, so there you go, 1st off. 2nd off, I hate to burst you and Lexandro's collective bubble, but there is literally ZERO chance of the -8S appearing in MWO for 1 simple fact: We CANNOT crit split. Period. PGI will never implement it either, we've tried asking in the past and got a resounding no each time, so you both might as well give up that dream while you're ahead.

Edited by w0qj, 01 April 2022 - 09:49 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2022 - 11:13 PM

View PostLockheed_, on 01 April 2022 - 09:29 PM, said:

No. Just like all the booster packs the preorder bonus extends to one month after release.

Really? So if I udnerstand it correctly, the best thing is to wait to July to see what quirks and stats Crusader will have, instead of preordering now?

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Posted 02 April 2022 - 04:26 AM

View PostLockheed_, on 02 April 2022 - 04:03 AM, said:

Yes. I bought the last two booster packs after release date and actually the Hunter Pack one week before the end of the preorder date. I barely managed to finish the special event for the pack.

Thanks for the info. Posted Image





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