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[InnerSphereNews]

MAY FEATURES UPDATE!

Greetings MechWarriors,

Based on direct community feedback to the upcoming MWO features, we've made some changes! Join Matt Newman as he goes over some of these updates in the video below. We're really looking forward to the May patch and hope you are too!

-The MWO Team

UPDATED!

"I heard you like updates, So I updated the update with an update!"

EVEN MORE FEEDBACK! = EVEN MORE CHANGES!

AMMO IS NOW A SEPARATE CATEGORY FROM FIREPOWER IN THE MECH STATS

in both the QUIRKS and QUIRKS + SKILLS sections!

RADAR DEPRAVATION COLOR CHANGE FROM "AMS GREEN" to "SEISMIC RED"

*Based on the Feedback that Radar Deprivation is not exclusively a Missile Counter.

[Nightbird]

Glad you're working on new features. This skill tree is QoL but more content would be awesome. Event queue has worked out real well in other similar games.

Please show ammo nodes as ammo level +1 or ammo level +2.

[Navid A1]

Nice update!


For ammo, would it possible to show them in their own category and not combined with firepower section?

Just showing Ballistic ammo +1, +2 or Missile ammo +1, +2 also works.

[martian]

This is the step in the right direction.

[C337Skymaster]

Nice to see the color coding and skill breakdown. Bummed about the sensor tree reorganization, though. Radar Dep is an extremely powerful set of skills, and ECM was completely neutered when Skill Tree was launched in the first place, so having the ECM nodes more easily accessible to recover lost functionality, and setting Radar Dep further down the tree, was the right call.

[Domenoth]

Nightbird, on 22 April 2022 - 10:42 AM, said:

Glad you're working on new features. This skill tree is QoL but more content would be awesome. Event queue has worked out real well in other similar games.

Please show ammo nodes as ammo level +1 or ammo level +2.

While I see where you going with this, and I like what it sounds like, I don't think this would combine well in the Quirks+Skills section.

Some Mechs have +ammo on only some weapons, so you'd end up with:

SRM Ammo +13
Missile Ammo Level +1
LBX 5 Ammo +8
Ballistic Ammo Level +2

So what's my combined SRM +ammo and LBX5 +ammo? I don't have Missile Ammo Level +1 or Ballistic Ammo Level +2 memorized and then you're asking me to do math with the extra SRM Ammo +25 and LBX 5 Ammo +8.

I think, as much as I hate how many lines it adds, I think I'd prefer to see the total +ammo values in the list

Navid A1, on 22 April 2022 - 10:54 AM, said:

For ammo, would it possible to show them in their own category and not combined with firepower section?

This seems like the better suggestion of the two. Always put +ammo lines at the very end of the list. Get the noisy, obnoxious skills out of the the main body of the list, but still accessible.

[Nightbird]

Domenoth, on 22 April 2022 - 11:37 AM, said:

While I see where you going with this, and I like what it sounds like, I don't think this would combine well in the Quirks+Skills section.

Some Mechs have +ammo on only some weapons, so you'd end up with:

SRM Ammo +13
Missile Ammo Level +1
LBX 5 Ammo +8
Ballistic Ammo Level +2

So what's my combined SRM +ammo and LBX5 +ammo? I don't have Missile Ammo Level +1 or Ballistic Ammo Level +2 memorized and then you're asking me to do math with the extra SRM Ammo +25 and LBX 5 Ammo +8.

I think, as much as I hate how many lines it adds, I think I'd prefer to see the total +ammo values in the list


This seems like the better suggestion of the two. Always put +ammo lines at the very end of the list. Get the noisy, obnoxious skills out of the the main body of the list, but still accessible.

You can mouse over the ammo in the mechlab today and it tells you exactly how many rounds you get.

[PraetorGix]

Ohhh, yeah this is what I'm talking about! So glad you could actually separate quirks from skills in the display!
I Haven't seen the rest of the video but that is enough to make me happy, thank you guys.

[Domenoth]

Nightbird, on 22 April 2022 - 11:42 AM, said:

You can mouse over the ammo in the mechlab today and it tells you exactly how many rounds you get.

Yeah, that's in the Mechlab though. This also shows up in the Select Mech screen where you can't hover over anything.

https://www.twitch.tv/ngngtv is streaming right now and Matt Neutron just asked him to show off a screenshot with pretty much exactly what Navid asked for. It looks pretty good. It should be right before Phil's last match at the end of the stream if you check out the VOD for today.

EDIT:

Phil says he played sh****, so he's doing one more match. So the screenshot should be right before the second to last match of the stream

EDIT:

Ooh, and now Matt put it in the thread. Great

Edited by Domenoth, 22 April 2022 - 02:59 PM.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

I'm glad that you guys figured out how to display quirks only, great job! I'd like to like this more than once.

[KrocodockleTheBooBoxLoader-GetIn]

Xzibit meme reference.

[VukNukem]

Wow.
Great work, thanks Matt. Looking forward to it.
Keep rockin

[Eurystheus]

I like these changes. Thank you.

[Domenoth]

InnerSphereNews, on 22 April 2022 - 10:11 AM, said:

AMMO IS NOW A SEPARATE CATEGORY FROM FIREPOWER IN THE MECH STATS

in both the QUIRKS and QUIRKS + SKILLS sections!

Much better.

Small feedback: For me, I'd probably like Ammo at the bottom below Survivability Auxilery even.

Edited by Domenoth, 22 April 2022 - 03:11 PM.

[Alik Kerensky]

looks better... will there be a skill refund to reskill the mechs?

[Lionheart2012]

Alik Kerensky, on 22 April 2022 - 03:31 PM, said:

looks better... will there be a skill refund to reskill the mechs?

In the Dev Log prior to this feature update, they said that they were going with these changes to avoid a refund of skills.

[Lionheart2012]

Hi folks,

I am happy to see this update and to see that there was some buy-in to rearranging the sensor/ECM/RADAR tree.

I also had the following suggestion for speed tweak.



This would align it more with the way that speed tweak becomes more available in the current tree. And I don't think anyone would suggest that speed tweak is an overpowered node, unless there are plans to scale the amount of speed tweak with the size of the mech (bigger/slower mech = more speed tweak), similar to how armor and structure are inversely scaled with the size of the mech (bigger, better armored mech = smaller bonus).

[Navid A1]

InnerSphereNews, on 22 April 2022 - 10:11 AM, said:

UPDATED!

ABSOLUTE MAD LAD!

Thanks!

Edited by Navid A1, 22 April 2022 - 05:03 PM.

[w0qj]

+100000000000
Hurray! No more entering Testing Grounds to find out how many ammo rounds do I get for my various missile+ballistic systems!

Nightbird, on 22 April 2022 - 11:42 AM, said:

You can mouse over the ammo in the mechlab today and it tells you exactly how many rounds you get.

[KodiakGW]

Thanks for getting back on fixing the Skill Tree. Wish it was that way from the beginning. Would have probably kept my six friends from bailing.

I actually reinstalled the game last night. Went through and stripped all my mechs, but looking forward to that and the Event Queue.