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[Nondescript Machine]

I don't think the skills are changed in any way until you actually open up the skills screen of a mech, right?

[PrometheusTNO]

Nondescript Machine, on 11 May 2022 - 02:58 PM, said:

I don't think the skills are changed in any way until you actually open up the skills screen of a mech, right?

That was my experience. They were 91/91 until you opened Skill for a mech, then you get the "message", then you have 71/91 or whatever it is you were going to end up with.

[Big-G]

Lockheed_, on 11 May 2022 - 02:52 PM, said:

this needs to be fixed before the patch goes live. I am not going to reskill my close to 180 mechs, because the new skill tree ***** up everything, no matter how much free GSP I'm getting.

LOL, try 700+ mechs...

[Brauer]

Event queue pts has been a lot of fun. My main concern is things might get stale since it's locked to one map, but folks can always go to QP or FW if that happens on the live client.

[ambosen]

Well, so far. i can't even get the public test serrver to finish updating so I can even try. Finished the downloading this morning, but keeps prompting me to re-download and install after seemingly finishing. This is exactly the outcome I was worrried would happen based off of the last PTS event I participated in, sadly. Doesn't really help getting data when you can't even get the PTS build to finish a proper installation even going all the way from scratch instead of updating to the current PST build.

[Horseman]

C337Skymaster, on 10 May 2022 - 10:04 AM, said:

Goes to show how long it's been since they turned on the PTS, now, doesn't it?
Also goes to show how long it's been since Loot Boxes had anything worthwhile in them.

Less than that, we had at least one PTS in 2018 and there was a Faction Play PTS in 2019

katoult, on 11 May 2022 - 08:28 AM, said:

Am primarily wondering since the 4game release was planned to have an effective forced client-side switch to Russian, and bringing that to the main build would require either an alternative MWO Portal or patching the current loader with such a selection.

We do already have content from the localization effort in the main build files which has not been made available in the general client (a warhorn), so just because it's there doesn't necessarily mean it will be rolled out on the regular client.

From what I understand, switchable languages and Russian support were going to be added to the main client as well, 4Game's client would have defaulted to them and used a separate account system.

Edited by Horseman, 11 May 2022 - 09:19 PM.

[Blockpirat]

When you unequip multiple nodes at once, the new reduced value (bottom right corner) is not calculated correctly:





For Steiner Coliseum (and presumably other non-Quickplay maps) there is no preview video:



Something is not quite right with this error message. I also do not look forward to fixing this problem on my 513 'Mechs.

Edited by Blockpirat, 11 May 2022 - 11:28 PM.

[The Basilisk]

After seeing the pics in the above thread I think I've had a faulty install. Every Text on every button got some "@ui_" in front of it and then a denominator that seemed highly unstandart.

[katoult]

The Basilisk, on 12 May 2022 - 12:47 AM, said:

After seeing the pics in the above thread I think I've had a faulty install. Every Text on every button got some "@ui_" in front of it and then a denominator that seemed highly unstandart.

This is due to using an operating system not set to English system language.

To resolve this within the game just place a user.cfg file in your PTS root folder with a line g_language = english .

[Alfred Bester]

katoult, on 12 May 2022 - 12:51 AM, said:

This is due to using an operating system not set to English system language.

To resolve this within the game just place a user.cfg file in your PTS root folder with a line g_language = english .

@katoult:
Thanks for the tip! It worked for me.
Finally you can read something.

[D V Devnull]

Nondescript Machine, on 11 May 2022 - 02:58 PM, said:

I don't think the skills are changed in any way until you actually open up the skills screen of a mech, right?

PrometheusTNO, on 11 May 2022 - 04:07 PM, said:

That was my experience. They were 91/91 until you opened Skill for a mech, then you get the "message", then you have 71/91 or whatever it is you were going to end up with.

And that was not supposed to happen, if you check out the past few Developer Logs which are posted as Official MWO News for viewing. It was directly claimed by 'Matt Newman' that you could open the Skill Trees to look without having to deal with immediate changes. Disconnected sequences of Skill Nodes were not supposed to require reconciling until you actually tried to change anything. Having this blow up in such a manner completely throws those claims into a volcanic lava flow.

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ambosen, on 11 May 2022 - 08:36 PM, said:

Well, so far. i can't even get the public test serrver to finish updating so I can even try. Finished the downloading this morning, but keeps prompting me to re-download and install after seemingly finishing. This is exactly the outcome I was worrried would happen based off of the last PTS event I participated in, sadly. Doesn't really help getting data when you can't even get the PTS build to finish a proper installation even going all the way from scratch instead of updating to the current PST build.

Have you tried using the MWO Repair Tool after things failed to load properly? It might be able to fix your issues with loading up.



~D. V. "gets a feeling that someone fell across problems in Skill Trees caused by past development work" Devnull



[Edit by the Post Author for a failure in formatting...]

Edited by D V Devnull, 12 May 2022 - 02:01 AM.

[w0qj]

Wow... Beta smelling... but almost an Alpha smell...

Perhaps MWO really should give a warhorn or something for this MWO skill tree beta/alpha hardship

[D V Devnull]

w0qj, on 12 May 2022 - 03:10 AM, said:

Wow... Beta smelling... but almost an Alpha smell...

Perhaps MWO really should give a warhorn or something for this MWO skill tree beta/alpha hardship

Who knows, even though it looks to me like things with the Skill Tree Systems and the In-Game On-Board Computer & Command Wheel Dialog Audios are far from being ready for prime time... As it stands right now when I'm posting here, the PTS's Event Queue System is failing to have any ability of providing a Match because it appears everyone else checking it out went off to bed. I believe this never happened when there was an extra incentive involved, but I'm not trying to be pushy here either! I'll just have to go back to the Live Servers for now, as best as I can guess... Darn...

~D. V. "totally out in the cold on the PTS at this time, unable to check out the latest settings" Devnull

[w0qj]

Why is there no PTS download?
https://mwomercs.com/game/download
Wish to give it a spin!

[Above webpage has only one "Download" MWO Portal [70MB] link.
No mention of PTS download?]

Is the PTS trial period over already? (Thought it runs until May 13th)?

Edited by w0qj, 12 May 2022 - 06:24 AM.

[D V Devnull]

w0qj, on 12 May 2022 - 06:23 AM, said:

Why is there no PTS download?
https://mwomercs.com/game/download
Wish to give it a spin!

[Above webpage has only one "Download" MWO Portal [70MB] link.
No mention of PTS download?]

Is the PTS trial period over already? (Thought it runs until May 13th)?

Hi there, 'w0qj'... You have to install the MWO Portal in order to enable the installation for the PTS Client program & data... Sorry that seems so confusing, but that is how they designed it, so I hope you have good luck!

~D. V. "wishing 'w0qj' well on installing the PTS Client and all it needs to run" Devnull

[Horseman]

w0qj, on 12 May 2022 - 06:23 AM, said:

Why is there no PTS download?
https://mwomercs.com/game/download
Wish to give it a spin!
[Above webpage has only one "Download" MWO Portal [70MB] link.
No mention of PTS download?]
Is the PTS trial period over already? (Thought it runs until May 13th)?

PTS is downloaded through the Portal app, it's been like that for a long time.

[w0qj]

Ah, got it!
Thank you to everyone's very quick help!!

[Navid A1]

Bug:

Cooldown boosts in PTS events have a problem. They only apply to the client and not on the server. Meaning that the shot that was fired due to faster cooldown on client is not happening on the server, meaning there will be no hitreg and no ammo consumption as well.

Some examples:

MRM: https://www.twitch.t...713577?t=60m25s
Heavy Gauss: https://www.twitch.t...713577?t=53m50s
AC10/PPC: https://www.twitch.t...713577?t=43m36s

Affected weapons:
- ACs
- PPCs
- Gauss family
- SRMs
- MRMs

Weapons that are exempt from this bug
- Lasers (looks like it)
- MGs and Racs (obvsly)
- LRMs
- Streaks (?)
- ATMs (?)

Edited by Navid A1, 12 May 2022 - 09:32 AM.

[Surn]

I tried to download the MWO Public Test 3 times and each time the 22 GB file was corrupted. I was able to open it with 7zip and confirm all the files could be extracted.

So, to resolve:
0. Start the MWO Public Test install and cancel it. You want to choose the installation folder.
1. Copy these MWO files and folders into the MWO Public Test folder.

2. Open the Portal and select MWO PUBLIC TEST
3. Open the top left menu and select Run MWO Repair Tool

4. Ensure the repair tool is running in the correct folder:

This will prevent the large download and you will be able to play quickly

Sensor Range/ECM/Radar

While this is understandable, Sensor Range does not seem like the correct skill to unlock ecm and radar dep.

Seismic sensors seem more logically related to Sensor Range

Radar Dep and Enhanced ECM seem more logically related to Target Info Gathering.


Reasons:
Sensors of different types are grouped together.
Information warfare items are grouped together.

Action:
Swap the blue sensor items for the blue Targeting Info items

[C337Skymaster]

Seems like the "PTS Feedback" forum thread isn't getting much attention (https://mwomercs.com...h-pts-feedback/), so I'll revert back to here.

There's a bug with the skill tree with respect to when a skill node is unlocked/unselected, is NOT refunded, and has another selected skill node above it.

Edited by C337Skymaster, 13 May 2022 - 03:48 AM.