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[Navid A1]

WHK-Prime right now:
Stock: 2025 m/s velocity on cERPPC
Max velocity nodes: 2250 m/s velocity on cERPPC


WHK-Prime after patch
Stock: 2063 m/s velocity on cERPPC
Max velocity nodes: 2310 m/s velocity on cERPPC




Yeah... I'm gonna take the WHK after patch, thank you.

[Staude Coston]

60 m/s velocity
do not make the mech stronger, especially with the deep-seated hardpoints compared to the AWS 8Q is my opinion

[Navid A1]

Lockheed_, on 21 May 2022 - 11:24 PM, said:

where does the increase in velocity come from? you have an increase of 10% as a buff to cERPPCs and reducing the WHK-Prime arms from 10% each to 5% is an total decrease of 10% velocity. that should result in no velocity changes at all

Just simple math?

X * (1 + (a + 0.1)) is not equal to X * 1.1 * (1 + a)


Quirks apply to base stats of a weapon... when you have 50% boost on base stats X... you get 1.5*X
Now if you take 10% of the boost and put it on the base stats... then you have 1.4 * 1.1 * X = 1.54*X

The 10% is now being applied to the old base stat, while the remaining 40% is now being applied to a boosted base stat.

Edited by Navid A1, 22 May 2022 - 12:02 AM.

[Staude Coston]

Navid A1, on 21 May 2022 - 11:31 PM, said:

Just simple math?

X * (1 + (a + 0.1)) is not equal to X * 1.1 * (1 + a)


Quirks apply to base stats of a weapon... when you have 50% boost on base stats X... you get 1.5*X
Now if you take 10% of the boost and put it on the base stats... then you have 1.4 * 1.1 * X = 1.54*X

The 10% is now being applied to the old base stat, while the remaining 40% is now being applied to a boosted base stat.

one could also have said that today we change what we will change again at some point anyway, because something has changed the only thing that doesn't change again is the number of players as it used to be

irr.off

Edited by Staude, 22 May 2022 - 04:04 AM.

[D V Devnull]

Staude, on 21 May 2022 - 10:46 AM, said:

Clan ER Large Laser:

• Increased laser duration to 1.35 seconds (from 1.25)

NICE ???

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That depends on whether you wanted speed on the Damage that you're dealing, or if you wanted better Heat Management to keep your Mech active & functional with. In terms of how they're changing that, it's essentially a simultaneous Buff AND Nerf to the C-ERLL Weapon's operation in battle, so we'll have to see how it behaves after the Patch rolls in.

~D. V. "Heck... Maybe we'll find the C-ERLL changes work out for the best? Or will it backfire?" Devnull

[Meep Meep]

Neat. My fleas are getting some nice buffs.

Big-G, on 20 May 2022 - 09:05 PM, said:

Any word on how you will help users who had skilled mechs who will become broken after the patch due to not always getting all the nodes required in sequence?

As long as you don't enter the skill tab ~AFTER~ the patch hits your skill tree will be identical to what it was pre patch.

PSA: DO NOT ENTER THE SKILL TREE AFTER THE PATCH UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO CHANGE IT.

You also get credit for any orphaned nodes that had to be locked so once you purchase the joining node you can reset them for free.

[-Mean Machine Angel-]

Hahaha speeding up PPC's huh ? Wonder who that's for. They didn't need it at all.

[w0qj]

Laser sniper are in the vogue nowadays (post MWO/Cauldron patches April 2021).

ERPPC snipers are much more rare nowadays.
For each ERPPC sniper that you spot, one can also spot >5 other energy snipers.

WHK-Prime with ERPPC is very rare nowadays.
This is strange, considering WHK-Prime(I) sits on the apex of that massive Clan Wave I premium mech pack!

Coupled with possible upcoming SO8 quirk pass for Clan Omnimechs, perhaps MWO is adding more value to the Clan Wave I / II / III mech packs! (MWO already started to put CT quirks into some Clan Omnimechs as well...)

==> For me it's simple: reinstate (add back in) ECM back into CT of DWF-Prime(I), and I'll jump at Clan Wave I !

Klaatu Verata Niksumthingidunno, on 22 May 2022 - 01:20 PM, said:

Hahaha speeding up PPC's huh ? Wonder who that's for. They didn't need it at all.

Edited by w0qj, 23 May 2022 - 05:41 PM.

[ghost1e]

w0qj, on 23 May 2022 - 01:11 AM, said:

==> For me it's simple: add ECM back into CT of DWF-Prime(I), and I'll jump at Clan Wave I !

except that mech was never meant to have it? it's still very strong though

[Jaspbo1]

Guys plz plz plz can the Zeus get armour quirks? This is the highest priority quirk it needs rn.

[killkimno]

Jaspbo1, on 23 May 2022 - 10:31 PM, said:

Guys plz plz plz can the Zeus get armour quirks? This is the highest priority quirk it needs rn.

OSIRIS also needs quirk.
oriris lower armor then 25ton mech

osiris- 228
MIST LYNX-263
locust - 196

looks like almost 20t mech

[ShootterMcGavin]

My mech is ready...

[TheCaptainJZ]

killkimno, on 24 May 2022 - 04:08 AM, said:

OSIRIS also needs quirk.
oriris lower armor then 25ton mech

osiris- 228
MIST LYNX-263
locust - 196

looks like almost 20t mech

Mist lynx gets that much only because the arm geometry is so abysmal. That said, I never see an Osiris.

[Saved By The Bell]

Unable to play after patch.

Need VCRUNTIME140.dll

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 24 May 2022 - 10:36 AM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

SlightlyMobileTurret, on 21 May 2022 - 12:45 AM, said:

HM is getting this because it's a bad mech.

Pretty much.

Still, I'll see what 2 ERPPC + 1 Gauss does to it for ghost heat. Then I'll try... 2 AC/5, 2 PPC, 1 LPPC. Same damage output at a closer range, no ghost heat.

[BestenFallsKonGenial]

BIG MISTAKE!!!!

the whole command console comands & bettys bitching sounds are GONE!

it might be little but to get an acustic confirmation if your target is destroid or if an team mate marked a target is huge

[ScrapIron Prime]

ScrapIron Prime, on 24 May 2022 - 10:22 AM, said:

Pretty much.

Still, I'll see what 2 ERPPC + 1 Gauss does to it for ghost heat. Then I'll try... 2 AC/5, 2 PPC, 1 LPPC. Same damage output at a closer range, no ghost heat.

As suspected, with a 325 LFE and 15 DHS, a gauss+2erpppc setup is 53% heat on alpha. The other setup (300 LFE, 14 DHS) is 31% heat. So... 600m of pop tart, not 900m.

[Robert_Steiner]

does anyone else have the problem that no mechs are displayed at the event queue?

[ghost1e]

Robert_Steiner, on 24 May 2022 - 11:12 AM, said:

does anyone else have the problem that no mechs are displayed at the event queue?

yeah, same here

[tee5]

I had one match in the event queue, so for some it is working.