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#1 InnerSphereNews

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:23 AM


HOTFIX



Hotfix Date and Time - May 31st 2022 @ 10AM – 10:30AM PDT
Version Number: 1.4.260.0
Size: 8 MB
Please note that due to compression differences the Steam patch size may be larger than the standalone client patch size.
Patch Files (Direct Download) - http://patcher.mwome...ndPatch_401.zip

We are implementing a hotfix today that includes the following changes:

GENERAL
  • Fixed an issue where the Map/Mode multiplier was not working
  • Fixed an issue where users could not redeem Steam DLC purchases
  • Fixed an audio issue where Command Wheel dialogue did not play
  • Fixed an audio issue where Bitching Betty did not play
  • Fixed the Invalid Skill Tree error
  • Fixed an issue where Laser AMS was broken text in the Weapons Panel

EVENT QUEUE
  • Fixed an issue where the C-Bill multiplier at End of Match screen displays base total before multiplier rather than the bonus earned
  • Fixed an issue where Faction Play group drop decks were overlapping with the Event Queue
  • Fixed an issue where Event Queue was affected by Faction Play Loyalty selections

Thank you for your patience!

-The MWO Team


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:28 AM

Hell! It's about time!

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Edited by Vellron2005, 31 May 2022 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:32 AM

For those of us who installed the Bitching Betty fix put out thru NexusMods, will we need to delete that .pak file? Anything else? Any conflict possible there?

Edited by KH Slaine, 31 May 2022 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:37 AM

Hi,

have you also resolved the Voting Bonus System?

Else there is no way to get Alpine or Caustic Valley maps VS OTHERS !!!!

Think about that, you kill your own maps, you nearly optimized = Kill your own work without Voting-Bonus !!!

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THX GUYS.

VOTING WORKS. THX FOR THE JOB.

As Told, impressive job, but you should also give some negative PERKS like FALLOUT for the Good PERKS ! :)

Edited by Seelenlos, 31 May 2022 - 10:10 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:38 AM

Appreciate the fixes!

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:39 AM

View PostKH Slaine, on 31 May 2022 - 09:32 AM, said:

For those of us who installed the Bitching Betty fix put out thru NexusMods, will we need to delete that .pak file? Anything else? Any conflict possible there?

Yes, just delete the pak file from the nexus mod fix.

Edited by MrVaad, 31 May 2022 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:42 AM

There's been a lot of issues this past weekend with the Matchmaker, Cadets dropping in Tier 1 matches, tier 5 and 4 dropping with Tier 1 groups, teams dropping with 4-6 Assaults vs 0-1 on the other team, etc.

Was that fixed in this hotfix as well?

#8 C337Skymaster

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:48 AM

View PostMPhoenix, on 31 May 2022 - 09:42 AM, said:

There's been a lot of issues this past weekend with the Matchmaker, Cadets dropping in Tier 1 matches, tier 5 and 4 dropping with Tier 1 groups, teams dropping with 4-6 Assaults vs 0-1 on the other team, etc.

Was that fixed in this hotfix as well?


That's just classic matchmaker and low-population MWO. That's not related to the recent patch, and it's going to take a lot more than a hotfix to resolve it.

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 09:50 AM

Yayy!
... Turns out I missed Betty!

#10 Nanakio

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:00 AM

looks like custom Bettys no longer work

#11 RASTIL

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:06 AM

Finally, game is unplayable without bitchin betty!

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:21 AM

View PostNanakio, on 31 May 2022 - 10:00 AM, said:

looks like custom Bettys no longer work

Yes, some sound mods will need to be updated (one folder to change and regenerate the sound banks)

Edited by MrVaad, 31 May 2022 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:26 AM

View PostMrVaad, on 31 May 2022 - 10:21 AM, said:

Yes, all sound mods will need to be updated (one folder to change and regenerate the sound banks)


let's hope someone will do this. Most mods are years old

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:31 AM

View PostMPhoenix, on 31 May 2022 - 09:42 AM, said:

There's been a lot of issues this past weekend with the Matchmaker, Cadets dropping in Tier 1 matches, tier 5 and 4 dropping with Tier 1 groups, teams dropping with 4-6 Assaults vs 0-1 on the other team, etc.

Was that fixed in this hotfix as well?

Not yet but we're working on it right now!

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:41 AM

Your No. 1 priority for increasing the gameplay, retention and new accounts is to equalize matchmaking. If you cannot replace the current algorithm with something that works for more than 10% of the time, then you should start working on an equalization modifier to all players in a match. This would adjust each players damage, armor and heat impacts based on the target. Tier 1 shooting a Tier 5? 50% negative quirk to damage, 50% plus to heat. Tier 5 shooting a Tier 1? 50% plus modifier to damage, 50% neg adjustment to heat. Or something like that.

You don't like that? Then get MM to at least try to work most of the time. The percentage of unbalanced matches since the patch has increased substantially to the point where nearly every one I played is stacked in one way or another. The 2 most obvious is Tier 1 4-man groups massacring cadets and low tier players. The next most obvious is weight distribution - how can 6 assaults in a match end up in a 1 v 5 scenario? How can 8 lights end up with 7 on one team? MM failure is the answer.

So many Tier 1's have told us low tier players (T4 personally) to just get better at the game. Seriously? Hard to do when you are focused fire killed in 2 minutes. Or in matches that last 4 minutes bc your inexperienced team was seal clubbed. Or another Tier 1 flip remark is to just quit the game. Not sure that makes for MWO longevity.

Anyway, while I like to see development progress, none of the recent work will matter if MM remains so heavily broken.

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:52 AM

View PostDaeron Katz, on 31 May 2022 - 10:31 AM, said:

Not yet but we're working on it right now!

Glad to hear it, because I would really look forward to better Tonnage balancing when a Match is being put together. Fair fights are far more fun! :D

By the way, could we PLEASE have an officially-posted HotFix Patch Download Link for those who need and/or want the use of that Manual method? Some of us find this method to be a lot more stable and better for making sure our MWO Installs never get corrupted! :o

~D. V. "Better MM in the works? Yay! ... Uhm, could we PLEASE have a Download Link too?" Devnull



(p.s.: If you have to use 'PCHunter's thought about an In-Match Equalizer however, then it might be better to limit those extremes to only about 25% difference, or it may end up pushing out players anyway over difficulty differences. Their thought about 50% differences would definitely cause an unnecessary backlash.)



[Minor Quick Edit by the Post Author on 2022-05-31 @ 11:55 AM (GMT -7:00) for one missing word in their post... All Fixed Now!!!]

Edited by D V Devnull, 31 May 2022 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:56 AM

View PostPCHunter, on 31 May 2022 - 10:41 AM, said:

Your No. 1 priority for increasing the gameplay, retention and new accounts is to equalize matchmaking. If you cannot replace the current algorithm with something that works for more than 10% of the time, then you should start working on an equalization modifier to all players in a match. This would adjust each players damage, armor and heat impacts based on the target. Tier 1 shooting a Tier 5? 50% negative quirk to damage, 50% plus to heat. Tier 5 shooting a Tier 1? 50% plus modifier to damage, 50% neg adjustment to heat. Or something like that.

You don't like that? Then get MM to at least try to work most of the time. The percentage of unbalanced matches since the patch has increased substantially to the point where nearly every one I played is stacked in one way or another. The 2 most obvious is Tier 1 4-man groups massacring cadets and low tier players. The next most obvious is weight distribution - how can 6 assaults in a match end up in a 1 v 5 scenario? How can 8 lights end up with 7 on one team? MM failure is the answer.

So many Tier 1's have told us low tier players (T4 personally) to just get better at the game. Seriously? Hard to do when you are focused fire killed in 2 minutes. Or in matches that last 4 minutes bc your inexperienced team was seal clubbed. Or another Tier 1 flip remark is to just quit the game. Not sure that makes for MWO longevity.

Anyway, while I like to see development progress, none of the recent work will matter if MM remains so heavily broken.

This is because currently Quick Play and Event Queue matchmakers are one in the same. We're doing the work right now to separate them so they both have individual MM settings. Whenever Event Queue is inactive, Quick Play MM is back to normal.

View PostD V Devnull, on 31 May 2022 - 10:52 AM, said:

Glad to hear it, because I would really look forward to better Tonnage balancing when a Match is being put together. Fair fights are far more fun! Posted Image

By the way, could we PLEASE have an officially-posted HotFix Patch Download Link for those who need and/or want the use of that Manual method? Some of us find this method to be a lot more stable and better for making sure our MWO Installs never get corrupted! Posted Image

~D. V. "Better MM in the works? Yay! ... Uhm, could we PLEASE have a Download Link too?" Devnull



(p.s.: If you have to use 'PCHunter's thought about an In-Match Equalizer however, then it might be better to limit those extremes to only about 25% difference, or it may end up pushing out players anyway over difficulty differences. Their thought about 50% differences would definitely cause an unnecessary backlash.)



[Minor Quick Edit by the Post Author on 2022-05-31 @ 11:55 AM (GMT -7:00) for one missing word in their post... All Fixed Now!!!]

Sorry overlooked that, will get that in there now.

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 10:59 AM

View PostC337Skymaster, on 31 May 2022 - 09:48 AM, said:

That's just classic matchmaker and low-population MWO. That's not related to the recent patch, and it's going to take a lot more than a hotfix to resolve it.


No offense, but no way. Suddenly after the patch I was seeing 90% players I never have before, and I could tell by the chatter and the merciless gameplay they were much higher tier players. This is a real issue, not just the same old "matchmaker could be better..."

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Posted 31 May 2022 - 11:00 AM

View PostC337Skymaster, on 31 May 2022 - 09:48 AM, said:

That's just classic matchmaker and low-population MWO. That's not related to the recent patch, and it's going to take a lot more than a hotfix to resolve it.

Apparently the Devs have a different opinion...


View PostDaeron Katz, on 31 May 2022 - 10:31 AM, said:

Not yet but we're working on it right now!


View PostDaeron Katz, on 31 May 2022 - 10:56 AM, said:

This is because currently Quick Play and Event Queue matchmakers are one in the same. We're doing the work right now to separate them so they both have individual MM settings. Whenever Event Queue is inactive, Quick Play MM is back to normal.


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 11:01 AM

View PostDaeron Katz, on 31 May 2022 - 10:31 AM, said:

Not yet but we're working on it right now!


Thanks guys!





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