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[Kubernetes]

That's pretty much all that needs to be said.

Played three games last night, saw RAC2 boats everywhere. I watched my Victor get sawed in half by a 4xRAC Fafnir and had enough. Was he cheating? Probably, maybe, who knows. Regardless, I'm out until PGI fixes this nonsense.

[Nightbird]

Question really is whether PGI will ban anyone for exploiting or not. It's against CoC after all. If not, then make sure to exploit everything you can in the future.

[HammerMaster]

Nightbird, on 31 January 2019 - 09:45 AM, said:

Question really is whether PGI will ban anyone for exploiting or not. It's against CoC after all. If not, then make sure to exploit everything you can in the future.

Pretty sure Tina posted that it is against COC.
Not the macro but the current exploit involving the macro.
That being said. In 4 hours playing last night I saw one guy doing it.
I am concerned if it becomes more prevalent. Then ya. I won't log either.
Also this thread will probably be curtailed due to it's imlplications.

Edited by HammerMaster, 31 January 2019 - 09:55 AM.

[thievingmagpi]

It's easy enough to exploit without really knowing it's an "exploit" per se. Plenty of people have come across it organically.

[Nightbird]

HammerMaster, on 31 January 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

Pretty sure Tina posted that it is against COC.
Not the macro but the current exploit involving the macro.
That being said. In 4 hours playing last night I saw one guy doing it.
I am concerned if it becomes more prevalent. Then ya. I won't log either.
Also this thread will probably be curtailed due to it's imlplications.

"If not" as in if PGI doesn't enforce the CoC

[HammerMaster]

Nightbird, on 31 January 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

"If not" as in if PGI doesn't enforce the CoC

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Remains to be seen.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

I thought the "main issue" had been silently solved along with the Targeting Computer issue...

Guess not.

[LordNothing]

HammerMaster, on 31 January 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Remains to be seen.

to be fair i think they are more likely to ban somone for saying something they dont like in the forum, than they are for being a **** in game.

[Phoenix 72]

Personally, I do not really like how PGI handles cheaters... Just banning them is so 1999. I like the approach other games have taken, where cheaters can still play, but end up in queues with other cheaters only. That solution has a certain flair.

Of course, I also would not mind a different solution, where people using a certain exploit (like this one) will just self destruct as soon as it is detected. Like an automated system. Damage done in timeframe X exceeds what the weapon can legally put out... BOOOM.

Would also get cheaters where it hurts them... In their kill/death ratio.

***EDIT: I normally just play on weekends and mondays. I hope there will be some fix in by then, because I do not think I want to play while that problem is active... It is not enjoyable to be on the receiving end of exploits. ***

Edited by Darakor Stormwind, 31 January 2019 - 10:57 AM.

[dario03]

I thought the game might be over run by rac boats, like in the lurmpocalypses so I didn't play much till the hotfix patch in hopes that it would have a fix. But since it didn't and I wanted to finish the weekend warrior event I went ahead and played some matches since the patch. I saw very few rac boats, and I didn't notice anything weird. I'm guessing since it has been said not to use it, and also the fact that it requires some setup a lot of people just aren't bothering.

[- World Eater -]

Humble Dexter, on 31 January 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:

I thought the "main issue" had been silently solved along with the Targeting Computer issue...

Guess not.

Thought it was the primary reason for the patch too.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Oh it gets even better, apparently theres something to do with mguns as well - hope you like (potential) macro piranhas -.^

[thievingmagpi]

Xeno Phalcon, on 31 January 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

Oh it gets even better, apparently theres something to do with mguns as well - hope you like (potential) macro piranhas -.^

PGI has known about it for months- possibly longer.

Edited by thievingmagpi, 31 January 2019 - 11:47 AM.

[Dogstar]

Is it just me or does this feel like the final nail in the coffin?

It seems like this widely publicized (for Battletech anyways) exploit is going to really annoy the remaining players who aren't taking advantage of it into leaving, meaning only the minmaxers will be left, and once PGI fix it the minmaxers will likely give up to as they have no-one to victimize.

[thievingmagpi]

"the minmaxers"

lol

here again is the secret code speak for "anyone better than I am"

[Steel Raven]

3X RAC2 Marauders and Bushwackers where a thing before this macro crap so no, not everyone using RACs are cheating just like how not everyone was using wall hacks when the PPC+Gauss combo was meta. Are there people cheating? Probably considering how many jerks we have in this community but it's not nearly as wide spread as this forum believes.

Regardless, considering how many RACs=Cheating topics have been posted in the last 48 hours, I'm sure it's a matter of days before RACs get the nerf hammer (I foresee a >2X RAC2=Ghost Heat patch incoming)

[Antares102]

Steel Raven, on 31 January 2019 - 11:54 AM, said:

Regardless, considering how many RACs=Cheating topics have been posted in the last 48 hours, I'm sure it's a matter of days before RACs get the nerf hammer (I foresee a >2X RAC2=Ghost Heat patch incoming)

Doesnt matter because you can circumvent the ghost heat with macros as well.
The real exploit are not 3x RAC2 but 5xRAC2 without ghost heat and 40% more DPS.

Edited by Antares102, 31 January 2019 - 12:09 PM.

[Phoenix 72]

What can I say, the Triple Rac2 Bushwacker is one of my favourite Mechs, too. However, I have not played it since the exploit became common knowledge. I have, however, purchased more Crabs. Another of my favourite Mechs. So I should have enough fun over the coming weekend, provided the Macroing isn't much of a problem anymore by then.

[Dee Eight]

Xeno Phalcon, on 31 January 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

Oh it gets even better, apparently theres something to do with mguns as well - hope you like (potential) macro piranhas -.^

And flamers... just as you can use the fire control macro software to keep rac's from jamming, you can keep flamers from heat spiking. Which is why things like the piranha 2s and 3s can brawl with the flamers firing continuously for like thirty seconds and still have heat left to use their micro lasers and never shut down even with only 10 heat sinks.

Edited by Dee Eight, 31 January 2019 - 12:42 PM.

[MechaBattler]

I'm sure they're working on it. But from the sounds of it, it isn't going to be a simple fix of just changing some stats around. It's effecting more than just racs.