21 replies to this topic

[RockmachinE]

So are we gonna do something about this or just leave it?

[martian]

Louis Brofist, on 17 July 2022 - 06:46 AM, said:

So are we gonna do something about this or just leave it?

Could you add more details, please?

[w0qj]

Recently there was a lively discussion soliciting feedback on PPC + Gauss, as below.

https://mwomercs.com...nd-gauss-family

I'm sure we'll find out more in due time

[RockmachinE]

Aaah I wasn't aware of this discussion, thanks for the link!

[Quandoo]

Just remove snipers, close combat is much more fun. Let them wait in queue forever

Edited by Quandoo, 17 July 2022 - 12:39 PM.

[Vonbach]

Quandoo, on 17 July 2022 - 12:39 PM, said:

Just remove snipers, close combat is much more fun. Let them wait in queue forever

Make everyone need a lockon when shooting over 600m. I am sick of snipers

[pattonesque]

just use cover

[PocketYoda]

I think snubs would be fine if they lowered their range to actual snub range, like medium pulse range..

[ScrapIron Prime]

Nomad Tech, on 17 July 2022 - 07:30 PM, said:

I think snubs would be fine if they lowered their range to actual snub range, like medium pulse range..

They've already done that. According to lore, Snub PPCs do full damage out to the same range as a medium laser AND can fire out for reduced damage out to large laser range.

https://www.sarna.ne...i/Snub-Nose_PPC

[lazorbeamz]

pattonesque, on 17 July 2022 - 02:03 PM, said:

just use cover

maps like tourmaline grim plex have no cover. And are very often played.

[Escef]

lazorbeamz, on 20 July 2022 - 01:14 PM, said:

maps like tourmaline grim plex have no cover. And are very often played.

Both of those maps have plenty of cover. Why are you not using it?

[Escef]

Louis Brofist, on 17 July 2022 - 06:46 AM, said:

So are we gonna do something about this or just leave it?

What is it you do not like about the current implementation of PPCs? Is it all PPCs, or just the vanilla, Inner Sphere PPC? Is it a specific type of PPC that you find is a problem? Or the entire family of particle beam weapons?

Do you think they need buffs or nerfs?

See, when I mentioned before that you need to give actionable feedback, this is exactly what I'm talking about. There is nothing that can be done with this complaint. It's like a guy getting an order from a fast food place, getting his food, then walking up to the counter, putting his sandwich down, and yelling, "BURGER!" Like, WTF? Does it have cheese, should it not have cheese, should it have cheese? Is it the onions? Pickles? Did you order a chicken or fish sandwich, and got a burger instead? What's going on here?

Little baby is screaming here, and someone is supposed to figure out if he wants his bottle or if he needs his diaper changed. Well, you're an adult, use your damned words.

[D A T A]

i think he is referring to snub ppcs (i hope so, otherwise the rant has no sense at all)

Edited by D A T A, 20 July 2022 - 01:32 PM.

[Escef]

D A T A, on 20 July 2022 - 01:31 PM, said:

i think he is referring to snub ppcs (i hope so, otherwise the rant has no sense at all)

Honestly? Were it me in charge? I'd change it so that PPCs were buffed redonkulously in every match he was in. Just his matches. For a day or two. And hopefully he would learn a lesson on how to give actionable feedback.

Because this?

Louis Brofist, on 17 July 2022 - 06:46 AM, said:

So are we gonna do something about this or just leave it?

This is damned useless. Even with the context of the most recent patches, it's impossible to know what his complaint is. Is it damage? HSL? Velocity? Max range? ... Who the F knows?

[pattonesque]

lazorbeamz, on 20 July 2022 - 01:14 PM, said:

maps like tourmaline grim plex have no cover. And are very often played.

these maps both have plenty of cover. You can snipe well on both of them but they also have routes to common sniper spots that can be utilized by an intelligent brawler, and areas where you can fight the enemy team out of LOS of the sniper.

[LordNothing]

add blueshield. problem solved.

[PocketYoda]

ScrapIron Prime, on 17 July 2022 - 08:40 PM, said:

They've already done that. According to lore, Snub PPCs do full damage out to the same range as a medium laser AND can fire out for reduced damage out to large laser range.

https://www.sarna.ne...i/Snub-Nose_PPC

My point is they should stop at Medium pulse range not reduced further..

[martian]

D A T A, on 20 July 2022 - 01:31 PM, said:

i think he is referring to snub ppcs (i hope so, otherwise the rant has no sense at all)

There are so many various types of PPCs in the game with so many different stats that it is really hard to guess what the OP means ...

[lazorbeamz]

pattonesque, on 20 July 2022 - 04:34 PM, said:

these maps both have plenty of cover. You can snipe well on both of them but they also have routes to common sniper spots that can be utilized by an intelligent brawler, and areas where you can fight the enemy team out of LOS of the sniper.

yes yes you have routes. If you have unlimited time and the other 23 people wait for you to move

LordNothing, on 20 July 2022 - 04:38 PM, said:

add blueshield. problem solved.

Reduce damage and increase heat for PPC? why create weird equipment

[pattonesque]

lazorbeamz, on 21 July 2022 - 05:46 AM, said:

yes yes you have routes. If you have unlimited time and the other 23 people wait for you to move

It's important to not blame your team even though I know it's tempting. I just gave you good advice and you *immediately surrendered* before even trying it. peak mechdad