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[Valley Pirate]

Just played 5 games, and not one of them was above a 12-5.

Got killed by a 25-ton 'Mech while I was in a 65-tonner. I'm mid T2, so it's not like I totally suck.

Saw yet another assault running nothing but LRMs, sitting in the back.

Got hit by snubs every .7 seconds or so until I died.

Canyon Network 4 times, Hibernal once.

Tried multiple builds - JJ medium, brawler assault and medium, long-range sniper, face-time and laser-vomit heavy, etc. Didn't make a damn bit of difference, because it was somehow always a bad pic for the map/team composition.

Matchmaker sucks. Lights suck. Snubs suck. I think I'm just done.

[Nightbird]

Well, if you're asking for help, what you should do is lower your tier because the higher your tier the harder the matches you will get.

The best way is to use pinpoint weapons without splash like Gauss, IS AC, IS H/PPC. When you aim for CT (or even head!) these weapons help you get clean kills with the lowest damage possible.

People make the mistake of trying to do as much damage and earning as much match score as possible to raise their tier but that just makes your games harder.

[MrMadguy]

Play LRM Assaults. Problem solved.

[MyriadDigits]

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Got killed by a 25-ton 'Mech while I was in a 65-tonner. I'm mid T2, so it's not like I totally suck.

Bigger isn't better. As long as lights exist they deserve to be a valid choice. Being killed by one doesn't mean you're bad, or that lights are OP; sometimes you just get out played. Its a natural part of any PVP game to get outplayed.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Got hit by snubs every .7 seconds or so until I died.

https://mwomercs.com...60-23august2022

They are literally nerfing snubs tomorrow.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Tried multiple builds - JJ medium, brawler assault and medium, long-range sniper, face-time and laser-vomit heavy, etc. Didn't make a damn bit of difference, because it was somehow always a bad pic for the map/team composition.

Brawler assaults are very difficult. You lack the speed for to reliably get your guns in range, or to escape an unfavorable situation.

Long range sniping, especially with slow mechs, run the risk of being isolated. An isolated mech is a dead mech.

Facetime is vulnerable to twisting and poking, as they deny your ability to either effectively focus damage, or deny your ability to do any real damage in the first place.

[feeWAIVER]

Why don't you ever play lights?

[LordNothing]

this seems to be a game for the grognards. only people who have seen every permutation of derp from the match maker and balance realize that its all bs, those are the ones that seem to stick it out. we have the constant boom bust cycles seemingly imposed by the match maker. we accept it as business as usual but newer players can be force fed loss after loss and give up before the pendulum has a chance to swing the other way.

as for mech tonnage, it should be completely irrelevant if this game were appropriately balanced. people lose to the lights not realizing that they made build choices, and the other guy made a different choice. the other guy simply understands the game better and chose a build that is well suited to their abilities. and if the guy in the fatmech understood the game and their abilities better they would build suited mechs and shoot the light in the face. rather than just plastering their favorite weapon all over the mech that can fit them and expecting a free and effortless victory.

it doesn't help much that mech pricing likes to indicate more mech more better. it doesnt help that despite assaults being better across the board, lights still dont get buffs they need because a hand full of players are stupid good with them. it doesnt help that people complain about erll camping, finally get powerfull snubs to counter, and then complain about that. it doesnt help that regular game patches seem to be a mere afterthought again, with some blatant cash grabs thrown in for good measure. and it doesnt help that the developers pretty much have to bribe me with game loot to get me to play a few matches a month.

if it was not for the undying interest of the grongnards, this game would have died long ago. it would be nice if the game was good enough to keep new players kicking around. if you expect fast change, then this perhaps is not the game for you. but if you want to pour yourself a bourbon and stomp around a-bit. thats good too.

[crazytimes]

Unlike most airports, there's no real need to announce departures.

It's a free to play game. Don't get emotionally invested.

[Saved By The Bell]

I am assaults now, need to test some builds before going to lights. So every time swarm of snub lights and mediums in my team. Let them go. Dont run for them.

Everybody with snub, thinks, he can do more than 1000 dm. Its ********. Solid team with assaults stomps them every time.

Shoot these little snub scums from distance and dont wait any help from your team.

I know I am not adviser, then how about TTB assault play style? Good long range sniping, good damage.

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 22 August 2022 - 01:15 AM.

[Dr Wubs]

LordNothing, on 21 August 2022 - 11:21 PM, said:

We have the constant boom bust cycles seemingly imposed by the match maker.

There was always a bit of that, and then group drops made it 24/7.

The drop deck event didn't allow groups, and boom bust dwindled to almost nothing.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Yeah it gets old losing 1 or 2 to 12, you can usually tell when MM has dropped you on the loser side because theres three UAV's up and a new pink smoke near your team every time its off cooldown.

Can't really recommend any way to enjoy getting stomped, you either go play another game or get over it when you recognize the signs of the incoming stomp (0-6? Prepare thine butt.) as for lights yeah they can be annoying, especially laggy stealth lights that make even the HSR consider its life choices - but i'll tell you, building mechs with the goal of murdering the little punks kept me playing far longer than it should have. Didn't matter if it was a stomp, if I killed a light I was content...if I killed two I was having fun....if I killed four, I was cackling like a comic book villain.

In fact last time I played (about three days ago? I caught the covid so not felt up to it yet) I took my hellspawn back to base to deal with a locust being a punk, by the time I killed him my team was all dinnered with out a single kill to their name, I managed to finish off a piranha before the other ten reds came over to play. Was it a good match? No, but I was content lol.

[XDarkPrinceX]

I've hit quit game dozen times in the last week, MM has its ups and lots of downs, but I just go outside smoke a nice fatty come back and try try again. You really cannot expect much from QP it is after all Quick Play its not Invasion or Solaris.

[Curccu]

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Just played 5 games, and not one of them was above a 12-5.

5 games isn't really that many.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Got killed by a 25-ton 'Mech while I was in a 65-tonner. I'm mid T2, so it's not like I totally suck.

Weird that 60 percentile player is a half way to T1 because there should be less than 20% of of T1 and T2 players from what ASH explained about Year ago. Probably even less than that.
And your point is? 25 tonners are not allowed to kill 65 tonners? You suck compared to that 25 ton mech pilot at least.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Saw yet another assault running nothing but LRMs, sitting in the back.

Nothing new.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Got hit by snubs every .7 seconds or so until I died.

Lies or you had friendly fire and TK each game.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Canyon Network 4 times, Hibernal once.

New versions of most of the maps totally suck, canyon and hibernal are few good ones left.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Tried multiple builds - JJ medium, brawler assault and medium, long-range sniper, face-time and laser-vomit heavy, etc. Didn't make a damn bit of difference, because it was somehow always a bad pic for the map/team composition.

Looks like you issue... specially because you basically had only 1 map you played.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Matchmaker sucks. Lights suck. Snubs suck. I think I'm just done.

OPs MWO building and/or playing skills suck?

[CFC Conky]

@OP,

Being in T2, you will be matched against the best players in the game from top units like EMP and JGx, nothing to be done about that.

As for jumping from weight class/build to weight/class build, I’ve found that If I do that I don’t do all that well (for me anyway). I generally get better results by staying with one weight class and/or chassis for multiple matches.

And finally, because no one has said it yet: Can I have your stuff?
Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 22 August 2022 - 08:22 AM.

[TheCaptainJZ]

Even with a fabled "good" matchmaker, you can still expect to see a lot of 5/12 or worse games because of the domino effect. If we were all playing the same mech with the same weapons, the matchmaker could actually match a lot closer to 11/12 more consistently. But that's no longer MWO.

[Vonbach]

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Just played 5 games, and not one of them was above a 12-5.

Got killed by a 25-ton 'Mech while I was in a 65-tonner. I'm mid T2, so it's not like I totally suck.

Saw yet another assault running nothing but LRMs, sitting in the back.

Got hit by snubs every .7 seconds or so until I died.

Canyon Network 4 times, Hibernal once.

Tried multiple builds - JJ medium, brawler assault and medium, long-range sniper, face-time and laser-vomit heavy, etc. Didn't make a damn bit of difference, because it was somehow always a bad pic for the map/team composition.

Matchmaker sucks. Lights suck. Snubs suck. I think I'm just done.

Playing against lights gets really old doesn't it. With the agility loss lights are way overbuffed. Earlier you could just shoot them.

[KursedVixen]

MyriadDigits, on 21 August 2022 - 08:33 PM, said:

Bigger isn't better. As long as lights exist they deserve to be a valid choice. Being killed by one doesn't mean you're bad, or that lights are OP; sometimes you just get out played. Its a natural part of any PVP game to get outplayed.

https://mwomercs.com...60-23august2022

They are literally nerfing snubs tomorrow.

Not much of a nerf.

[Sawk]

WOW one more RAGE QUIT, i really think he needs a TRAINER, i could help this guy, i could if he understands HUNTING, if he learn to build a MECH that can KILL, wonder how OLD he is, does understand what a 2 weapon system is, like LASER VOMIT and the killing power of it, does he understand THE LIGHT mechs can out damage and assault mech ?????.

SAWK CLANNER PS got my kills up day last with 4 LXB 2 and 4 med laser its pretty NASTY : )

[KursedVixen]

Sawk, on 22 August 2022 - 03:17 PM, said:

WOW one more RAGE QUIT, i really think he needs a TRAINER, i could help this guy, i could if he understands HUNTING, if he learn to build a MECH that can KILL, wonder how OLD he is, does understand what a 2 weapon system is, like LASER VOMIT and the killing power of it, does he understand THE LIGHT mechs can out damage and assault mech ?????.

SAWK CLANNER PS got my kills up day last with 4 LXB 2 and 4 med laser its pretty NASTY : )

Your not helping.

Valley Pirate, on 21 August 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

Just played 5 games, and not one of them was above a 12-5.

Got killed by a 25-ton 'Mech while I was in a 65-tonner. I'm mid T2, so it's not like I totally suck.

Saw yet another assault running nothing but LRMs, sitting in the back.

Got hit by snubs every .7 seconds or so until I died.


Canyon Network 4 times, Hibernal once.

Tried multiple builds - JJ medium, brawler assault and medium, long-range sniper, face-time and laser-vomit heavy, etc. Didn't make a damn bit of difference, because it was somehow always a bad pic for the map/team composition.

Matchmaker sucks. Lights suck. Snubs suck. I think I'm just done.

Sounds like a typical horrible game match... Maybe you should just take a break and come back or look around on https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/ to see if you can find a more efficient build you like???

Vonbach, on 22 August 2022 - 02:41 PM, said:

Playing against lights gets really old doesn't it. With the agility loss lights are way overbuffed. Earlier you could just shoot them.

and before that you could ram them onto the ground...

Edited by KursedVixen, 22 August 2022 - 03:46 PM.

[Nightbird]

TheCaptainJZ, on 22 August 2022 - 10:25 AM, said:

Even with a fabled "good" matchmaker, you can still expect to see a lot of 5/12 or worse games because of the domino effect. If we were all playing the same mech with the same weapons, the matchmaker could actually match a lot closer to 11/12 more consistently. But that's no longer MWO.

1/3 of current stomps is still a lot of stomps, but put another way, we have 300% the stomps we need to have today because of the matchmaker and nobody should be content with that.

Edited by Nightbird, 22 August 2022 - 03:57 PM.

[Vonbach]

KursedVixen, on 22 August 2022 - 03:30 PM, said:

and before that you could ram them onto the ground...

You mean lights were actually balanced. Earlier lights were scouts and skirmishers. Not terrors running around in wolfpacks killing mechs twice their size. The agility nerf is also the reason you see the Assualt lrm boat and snipers all over the place because they are good for little else.

Edited by Vonbach, 22 August 2022 - 04:08 PM.