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[ShrapNelRP]

I know it does happen, but when it happens several consecutive times in the same match, it can get...frustrating.

I thought I'd make a video out of one incident:

[PocketYoda]

I rotate a lot so if i get blocked i just move. If they walk into my weapons as an Assault well... sucks for them.

What i detest is moving up front as an assault to do my job only to find i cannot move backwards because my team is up my *** and i get obliterated being stuck there.. Happens more than i like..




They need to remove most of the overpasses in Solaris, the map would be a thousand times better without them.

Edited by PocketYoda, 15 May 2023 - 04:33 PM.

[Ihlrath]

PocketYoda, on 15 May 2023 - 04:31 PM, said:

I rotate a lot so if i get blocked i just move. If they walk into my weapons as an Assault well... sucks for them.

What i detest is moving up front as an assault to do my job only to find i cannot move backwards because my team is up my *** and i get obliterated being stuck there.. Happens more than i like..




They need to remove most of the overpasses in Solaris, the map would be a thousand times better without them.

^^ Same. Though I need to learn to just keep shooting if someone steps into my line of fire like an idiot. Hello.. giant stream of bullets... I'm gonna step into that to get my shot!

[sycocys]

I just move, unless they are standing dead in the middle of a pathway.

[LordNothing]

the only ones i really dont like are the tailgaters. if you expected a push rather than a peak, it should have been called before hand. in either case make space for the guy on point to maneuver. if im taking fire and a mech is blocking my retreat, its possible he will get shot.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

By remembering that I have accidentally blocked people in the past too and not parading them through the forum for a shame session

Thank you for reminding me that not publicly dumping on people for every time I got screwed, annoyed ir inconvenienced directly or indirectly by something they chose to do is vanity, I would now like to talk about how I got TKed last night by a Huntsman who repeatedly laid into my Sun Spider with doubletapped UAC10s and how an ace Flea player suddenly decided trying to rush a fresh MAD4L was a great idea instead of letting my dry-ammo-bin Dragon rush him long enough for the Flea to use what remained of my armor intelligently while a halved KFX worked the basecap

Edited by the check engine light, 15 May 2023 - 06:28 PM.

[feeWAIVER]

This video really annoys me. You drive directly into the back of one teammate, forcing them to be a stationary target...
Are you playing with the default throttle? Play with a push throttle, and maybe that will help.

More annoying to me, you see on the minimap where all the enemies are, and you and several guys abandoned your team for a leisurely stroll at 75kph to look at buildings while 5 people die in under 2 minutes. They died because you left them outnumbered.

Ihlrath, on 15 May 2023 - 04:34 PM, said:

^^ Same. Though I need to learn to just keep shooting if someone steps into my line of fire like an idiot. Hello.. giant stream of bullets... I'm gonna step into that to get my shot!

No, check your fire.

Edited by feeWAIVER, 15 May 2023 - 06:51 PM.

[An6ryMan69]

ShrapNelRP, on 15 May 2023 - 04:22 PM, said:

I know it does happen, but when it happens several consecutive times in the same match, it can get...frustrating.

I thought I'd make a video out of one incident:

Overall what I am seeing is fairly normal...except you are (more than most players) running your mech into others.

Everyone has an equal responsibility to be aware of their surroundings and move around others - but it seems you feel most of that responsibility is everyone else's, based on what I'm seeing in the video.

Particularly when approaching others from behind, the responsibility to move to avoid team damage or blocking lays with the mech coming up from behind, not the guy in front who can't see behind himself.​

Back blocking is team-killing, BTW.

I think you need to look in the mirror if you feel there's a problem with matches you're in, sorry.

Edited by An6ryMan69, 16 May 2023 - 07:55 AM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

I'm getting to the point where if another Blackjack gets in my way when I'm laying into someone with my Assault mech I'm just going to Alpha Strike them in the back

[Mechwarrior2342356]

AntiCitizenJuan, on 16 May 2023 - 09:00 AM, said:

I'm getting to the point where if another Blackjack gets in my way when I'm laying into someone with my Assault mech I'm just going to Alpha Strike them in the back

"why does my team seem to never try to help me when I'm in an Assault mech"

I mean, you don't need us near you right? cool I'm going to go do something fun over there far away from you cya big guy, gotta give you your space

I'm not even really non-sympathetic to the issue of getting blocked, I've had it done to me so many times I reflexively prepare to pull or hold shots in crowded firing lanes and have Sorry's wheel position memorized, but again I see trying to be even a little well-mannered is pointless, thank you for showing me the light

Edited by the check engine light, 16 May 2023 - 09:17 AM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

the check engine light, on 16 May 2023 - 09:11 AM, said:

"why does my team seem to never try to help me when I'm in an Assault mech"

I mean, you don't need us near you right? cool I'm going to go do something fun over there far away from you cya big guy, gotta give you your space

I'm not even really non-sympathetic to the issue of getting blocked, I've had it done to me so many times I reflexively prepare to pull or hold shots in crowded firing lanes and have Sorry's wheel position memorized, but again I see trying to be even a little well-mannered is pointless, thank you for showing me the light

No offense but I've placed Top 5 in two different Assault bracket tournaments during my career, once in an Awesome when it was still considered a piece of junk and once in a Heavy Metal during a Hero tournament

I'm in the 97th Percentile on Jarls and thats only because I stopped playing for like 5 years and just started again a month ago. I know how to play an Assault Mech,
sometimes smaller mechs need to get out of the way. A good Medium knows when to not get in the way.

Edited by AntiCitizenJuan, 16 May 2023 - 09:59 AM.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

AntiCitizenJuan, on 16 May 2023 - 09:57 AM, said:

No offense but I've placed Top 5 in two different Assault bracket tournaments during my career, once in an Awesome when it was still considered a piece of junk and once in a Heavy Metal during a Hero tournament

I'm in the 97th Percentile on Jarls and thats only because I stopped playing for like 5 years and just started again a month ago. I know how to play an Assault Mech,
sometimes smaller mechs need to get out of the way. A good Medium knows when to not get in the way.

yeah I don't care but since you're so good I'm sure you don't need any of us nearby, we'd just get in the way

when you ascribe this level of HOW DARE YOU to something not borne forth by malice you remind me of me at my worst and if I don't like myself when I get like that I sure as hell don't like you or your Jarl's jockeying justification

seriously demanding genuflection for driving virtual robits gud? GFY.

Edited by the check engine light, 16 May 2023 - 10:11 AM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

the check engine light, on 16 May 2023 - 10:04 AM, said:

yeah I don't care but since you're so good I'm sure you don't need any of us nearby, we'd just get in the way

when you ascribe this level of HOW DARE YOU to something not borne forth by malice you remind me of me at my worst and if I don't like myself when I get like that I sure as hell don't like you or your Jarl's jockeying justification

Again, sometimes smaller mechs need to get out of the way and good pilots understand that as a concept too. People literally B-Line at the first target they see without any concept of positioning and sight/firing lines. Positioning wins games.

When I play my Mediums and theres an Assault fight going on I focus on supporting and if possible flanking and staying out of the firing line of the damage dealers. It's a two way street

I've played with and against you and know you're a good player, but I'm just responding to your strawman argument that is frankly ******** because I am an excellent Assault pilot and understand teamwork

[feeWAIVER]

AntiCitizenJuan, on 16 May 2023 - 09:57 AM, said:

No offense but I've placed Top 5 in two different Assault bracket tournaments during my career, once in an Awesome when it was still considered a piece of junk and once in a Heavy Metal during a Hero tournament

I'm in the 97th Percentile on Jarls and thats only because I stopped playing for like 5 years and just started again a month ago. I know how to play an Assault Mech,
sometimes smaller mechs need to get out of the way. A good Medium knows when to not get in the way.

A good assault knows when to save his heat. That Blackjack isn't going to be in front of you for long. Relax.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

AntiCitizenJuan, on 16 May 2023 - 10:15 AM, said:

know you're a good player

A lie, but I'll absolutely give you the rest

now how well do you suppose other people understand teamwork, were they taught at all, are they frantically trying to put SOME damage on the board to not come out of a match with miserable numbers, maybe they're just greedy, maybe they're tunnel-visioning on the thing that they KNOW wants to kill them, maybe they're escaping someone else working them from another angle, etc.

I'm consistently surprised at how many people don't even know about MechDB/Grimmechs and the wiki attached, the wiki might be fairly new, the Tactics comics have been around forever but I have no idea how many people have seen them (and seeing something diagrammed is different from actually putting it into practice or adapting it to an unforeseen situation)

Edited by the check engine light, 16 May 2023 - 10:28 AM.

[Haipyng]

ShrapNelRP, on 15 May 2023 - 04:22 PM, said:

I know it does happen, but when it happens several consecutive times in the same match, it can get...frustrating.

I thought I'd make a video out of one incident:

It happens very frequently on that map. Just the way it is built. So many choke points, so much stuff to get stuck on, very few clear lanes of fire.

I do try not to burn on teammates walking into my line of fire. Yeah it was crummy of them, but they are a team mate.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

ShrapNelRP, on 15 May 2023 - 04:22 PM, said:

I know it does happen, but when it happens several consecutive times in the same match, it can get...frustrating.

I thought I'd make a video out of one incident:

correct me if I'm wrong, but:
frankly, I don't get it. the ONE mech I see blocking is
-your- mech.

consequently, -you- should learn something here:
-ingame, you don't run up people's arse and block them to death for no good reason.
-on the forums, you don't shame other people for _your_ misplays - it doesn't show you in any favorable way.

[kalashnikity]

My only complaint is when I'm OBVIOUSLY poking around a corner (especially in a light) - in out - in out - in out - and some idiot walks up behind me, trapping me out in the line of fire. It's rare, but it happens.


Some jackwagon did it to me just a few days ago (survived that time).

It's gotten my killed a few times though.

That's almost as frustrating as hearing people claim they are going to just keep firing if a team mate walks out in front of them, or worse, if they actually do...

[kalashnikity]

Haipyng, on 16 May 2023 - 10:53 AM, said:

It happens very frequently on that map. Just the way it is built. So many choke points, so much stuff to get stuck on, very few clear lanes of fire.

I do try not to burn on teammates walking into my line of fire. Yeah it was crummy of them, but they are a team mate.

I hate when I'm zoomed in popping caps and a team mate walks into my line of fire and I don't see it until it's too late. oops.

I even I got a friendly kill in a LRM boat last night. oops.

I'm usually pretty good at not backshooting teammates though. Usually... but not last night. I probably had over 150 team damage by the end of last night, trying to level up and build a new (for me) style of king crab (settled on 2xERPPC, 3xMRM20, 4xLMG) and people kept stepping out in my line of fire. My combat logic kept getting messy, I rarely play a mech like that and I felt very awkward for the first couple hours, such a wide torso it took a while to get the feel for it. By the end of the night I was rocking it though.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

kalashnikity, on 16 May 2023 - 08:55 PM, said:

I hate when I'm zoomed in popping caps and a team mate walks into my line of fire and I don't see it until it's too late. oops.

I even I got a friendly kill in a LRM boat last night. oops.

I'm usually pretty good at not backshooting teammates though. Usually... but not last night. I probably had over 150 team damage by the end of last night, trying to level up and build a new (for me) style of king crab (settled on 2xERPPC, 3xMRM20, 4xLMG) and people kept stepping out in my line of fire. My combat logic kept getting messy, I rarely play a mech like that and I felt very awkward for the first couple hours, such a wide torso it took a while to get the feel for it. By the end of the night I was rocking it though.

Lockons that have left the tube are unfortunately not discriminatory about what they hit on the way to the actual target.