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Balance Ideas For Cauldron Including The Next Patches


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#1 Duke Falcon

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 08:01 AM

So, I saw the pulse laser quirks on the Kintaros and follow that I have a few ideas for the Cauldron to the next patch!

1.: Catapults (all variants)
add extra ECM quirks for them!

2.: Wolfhounds (all variants)
add LRM\SRM quirks for them!

3.: Commando (all variants)
add extra Jump-jet quriks for them!

4.: Awesome (all variants)
add Gauss or UAC quirks for them!

5.: Orion (all variants)
add extra ECM and JJets quirks for them!

See, these are all help balance! And just as sane as PL quirks on the Kintaro!
Feel free to use these ideas as you have no reason not to! You paved the way, just do it!

#2 Duke Falcon

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 08:18 AM

View Postthe check engine light, on 31 May 2023 - 08:06 AM, said:

The KTO can actually mount pulses, this is a very stupid hill to die on


Sure. But KTO not meant to have such quirks ever. A mech built around NARC system should have NARC and missile quirks.
We not arm submarines with guns instead of torpedos even if we actually could.

KTO and PL quirks were an excellent example that just because we can and wish to do something we may not need to do! It were a dumb thing unfit for the KTO.

#3 epikt

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 09:43 AM

Waaah! This is the most stupid thread I've seen on this forum this month, and considering the usual level it is in itself an accomplishment. Congratulation!

#4 CFC Conky

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 10:23 AM

I happen to enjoy the -20 with 3xLPL. You have to run an XL to mount them which imo balances things out.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 11:15 AM

View PostCFC Conky, on 31 May 2023 - 10:23 AM, said:

I happen to enjoy the -20 with 3xLPL. You have to run an XL to mount them which imo balances things out.

You can do it with an LFE, running ~80kph without tweak and with decent cooling.

#6 BLACKR0SE

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 11:53 AM

I wish they would put ECM on all machines. It would be a tonnage selection.

#7 Davegt27

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 12:52 PM

OP you need to go to the Caldron's discord I would say (IMHO)

#8 SafeScanner

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 01:34 PM

Id rather see less ecm

#9 TheCaptainJZ

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 04:50 PM

Give it the "Cursed Halo" treatment.

If you're not familiar, it's a mod.

#10 Curccu

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 10:29 PM

View PostDuke Falcon, on 31 May 2023 - 08:18 AM, said:

Sure. But KTO not meant to have such quirks ever. A mech built around NARC system should have NARC and missile quirks.


None of my Kintaros have ever had NARC after first edit of the load out by my.... but few of them have had and still have pulse lazors.

And now that you made this thread I'm bit tempted to play LPL Kintaro looks pretty good.
Freakin' < 0,34s burn time with skilltree.

#11 Storky

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Posted 31 May 2023 - 11:53 PM

If being serious, many chassis aren't cauldroned yet. Like half of Stalkers are pointless.

#12 An6ryMan69

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Posted 01 June 2023 - 10:39 AM

Yeah.

LOTS of mech variants are so similar to others that they are pointless, actually. Wolfhounds, Grasshoppers and Black Knights come to mind for me, but there are way more.

Good news is lots of room to grow, if the cauldron starts looking hard at different mech variants and starts perking them noticeably so they are not functionally identical.

One suggestion I might make - every chassis should have at least one variant with jump jets, and one with ECM, and maybe one with MASC. Not sure who would put out a mech with seven variants and not a single one with JJ's, but that's just silly.

Edited by An6ryMan69, 01 June 2023 - 12:33 PM.


#13 pbiggz

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 07:31 AM

Give the summoner prime ****** up SO-8 quirks like half the cooldown on the PPC so using the gorilla arm is worth it.

Its not gonna be broke, one of each hardpoint mostly on squishy knuckle dragging arms is not OP

#14 sycocys

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 09:57 AM

Zero sum the skill tree.

#15 Meep Meep

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 11:19 AM

All the snarky things that are popping up in my head to list have mostly already been done by cauldron so I'm hesitant to give them any more ideas. Posted Image

#16 SafeScanner

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 07:58 PM

Guess i can add something else
Better distiction Between pulse,normal and ER lasers i feel the lines are getting to blurred between normal and ER (both is and clan)

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 08:38 PM

Vindicators and Trebuchets need more help.

#18 Duke Falcon

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 11:09 AM

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Waaah! This is the most stupid thread I've seen on this forum this month, and considering the usual level it is in itself an accomplishment. Congratulation!

Well, thank you! I worked hard for that, good to see it worth all the time!


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OP you need to go to the Caldron's discord I would say (IMHO)

I not use Discord since I forgot my password two years ago and considering the corresponding e-mail dismissed I see little to no chance to get my Discord back - even if I ever wish to!

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Vindicators and Trebuchets need more help.

Et voilá! Cauldron may make them... what? Vindicators to AC-boats and Trebuchets to PPC-carriers? Enough meaningless deviation from MechWarrior occured already so better not summon the devil...

Yeah, I really done: I'd ran blind and ran far... I'm beyond redemption...
But MWO could still have a chance just not deviate it to a meaningless sorta-mecha-CoD game...

#19 Meep Meep

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 01:32 PM

View PostSafeScanner, on 03 June 2023 - 07:58 PM, said:

Guess i can add something else
Better distiction Between pulse,normal and ER lasers i feel the lines are getting to blurred between normal and ER (both is and clan)


er meds for both factions seem to be meant as mid range weapons but they fall short of that by a hundred meters or so even with range quirks and range nodes. I'd like to see them match other mid range weapons with at least a 500m optimal after skills and quirks. Maybe increase duration a bit to compensate.

#20 Duke Falcon

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 10:46 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 04 June 2023 - 11:29 AM, said:

The Cauldron sucks

Your ideas suck worse

I'll take the Cauldron in the absence of anything better

If you really want to force this issue in this fashion

Oh, but I not introduce changes-of-taste as they do. Otherwise - what a beautyful sight - only PPCs would exists even on a Fire moth (Yes! Yes! Yes!)...

What I wanted to say:
Balance is a thing and Cauldron undoubtedly made some. I can accept THAT.
Introduce things what mirrors one's favour and try-to-force it on others is just BAD. If you want MechWarrior at least TRY to keep in touch with BT-lore. PL-quirk on KTO were (not the only) an intentional deviation without explanation from MW and BT generally just to propagate the style-n-like of a few players.
Better Cauldron stick just balancing and not reshape MW-generally because they have no right to commit the later!
@Cauldron: Just balance, damn, not force your image of game-style! You did pretty good balance for this game why you try to ruin your (in)fame?!

And still gonna be fun to see a closer-to-real fire-mechanic in-game. You know, need to lock on target otherwise X% chance to miss completely! A computer need a lock what take time, a human need to aim what take time, still both could fail in RL...
This part may help to dismiss the auto-aim of LRMs idiotism at last. Things lately need a huge clean up for sure...





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