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[Krizalius]

InnerSphereNews, on 16 June 2023 - 04:02 PM, said:

and will also be available on Steam.

IS NOT AVAILABLE in Steam

[KursedVixen]

So when can I buy the howl on the steam store???

[KursedVixen]

Cheeks Akimbo, on 20 June 2023 - 10:03 AM, said:

Those complaining about lore do know that the video games were never canon right?
Let them have a special new fun TBR, no it's not meta, no it's not "Correct lore", but it does look like fun and that's what counts in video games.

To an extent they are , they just followed the individual stories of other people...

[Ronbo]

I got the Howl, wasn't going to until i checked the numbers for slots i wanted in a few particular builds. So, it fills a niche in my Timby collection.
Naturally, if the 80% ATM gets nerfed, people will and should cry foul. But, IMO, to get that range will need someone spotting and LOS to target. Ive done a few builds in mechlab, and it can do some stuff.
Sad than in todays game, no ECM, but time will tell how popular this is.

[Bud Crue]

MookieDog, on 20 June 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:

Once again, the quirks on the Clan mechs.. rock solid.. only a +80% range for ATMs. However a +2 HSL for LPPC's for the Quickdraw which only has four slots for energy weapons, so ya... somewhere there is a lost LPPC looking for a home on the Quickdraw which cant be mounted.

Not to mention one of the lowest mounted ballistic hardpoints in the game, awesome, stellar, good job.

The Desperada is basically a Quickdraw 5K with some extra quirks with the same weapons: four blue lasers.

There could have been a lot of more thought put into that one, but at this point in the game... we are still wishing too much. Much like the rescale.

I believe that the HSL values for LPPC (and the other PPCs as well) include LGs (and the other Gauss Rifles) and vice versa. So the new Quickie will be limited to 4LPPC and 1LG or 1Gauss (assuming that fits) without GH. Sure they could have phrase it different (LG HSL +4, I think) but it makes no practical difference as it is hard point limited either way.

[Kubernetes]

I was definitely stumped when noticed that the new Timby is a battlemech. And as predicted this will cause outrage.

[ForQAll]

Lockheed_, on 20 June 2023 - 01:08 PM, said:

There is really no outrage. It's a few lorehounds with no creativity that found something to get triggered about again, while totally failing to realize how nasty this mechs looks and wonder why a clanner would just low-effort-graffiti all over their mech and that this is clearly some kind of periphery/pirate [redacted] created from a salvaged TBR.

If anything this is great material for a story about a band of pirates trying to ambush a lance of mechs, not realizing that they got bad intel and are now facing a star of clan mechs moving very close past their hiding spot. Some rookie pirate panics and fires an alpha strike at the enemies back causing the rest of the pirates to panic as well and in a frenzy just alpha striking the **** out of everyone until their mechs all overheat. When they power up again, they expect to be facing the enemy ready to kill them all, but they find the entire enemy star is eliminated because the clanners didn't expect such a dishonorable attack from behind. The only mech that is not just a pile of steaming scrap is a TBR that gets salvaged but is damaged so heavily that the omni mech capability is lost. The rookie gets to claim the TBR because his mech was badly damage from overheating that it's beyond the capabilities of the pirates to repair it.
There was a discussion to give him the callsign "Meltdown" but as pretty much everyone overheated their mech as well and because he was screaming at the top of his lungs the entire time when firing at the enemy he was given the callsign "Howl".

Just and example what this mech could easily be about. I'm sure someone will find something that is incorrect about this as well, I don't care. I'm not into the lore anymore, I stopped playing the TT 23 years ago.

Exactly. I'm surprised people didn't see the paint job here and get that

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 20 June 2023 - 10:04 PM.
quote clean-up

[BLACKR0SE]

steam steam steam

[Rhaelcan]

To the people mad about battlemech timby
Screw the lore. Even then, pirates in the lore change Omni mechs to battlemech ALL THE TIME. Do research.

[Rhaelcan]

hypographia, on 19 June 2023 - 05:50 PM, said:

I hope those quirks that made you buy them aren't yanked like they've done to the other legendaries. I'm on a 90-day wait window on all legendaries after getting rug pulled more than once. I.e. if the quirks are still there in 90 days, let's go. Not a fan of paying to be a beta tester, only to have my purchase nerfed, severely. Especially when the Cauldron basically said "don't buy them then" when we complained about the post-purchase nerfs.

Honestly, I feel like the howl will be nerfed. I've seen it do really well. Either way, I buy them cause they are cool. So if they are taken away, cool, ok. They needed a nerf. I don't cry and complain over some quirks if it's for the sake of balance

[Rhaelcan]

Duke Falcon, on 20 June 2023 - 07:44 AM, said:

Okay, I could accept a few things. The main trouble is that both PGI&Cauldron (or any of them combinatnions\setups) again dashed forth without thinking. They just jumped off the window not considering how many **** is in the pool they would land into. A patch per month with two new whatevers per month, that is what they do. Why?!
To avoid that little time what "consideration" consumes? Always in a hurry, just dash without thinking a bit and THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM HERE!
Want some battlemech version of omnis? Why not take one what do exists and could be explained? Dunno, like Blackhawk or Koshi? Both are non-omni versions of existing omnimechs! Easy and logical picks? Sure!
Hmmm... Maybe that is the reason they neglected them? Or just lack the "know the lore" part?
Seriously said there were many options but they decided to bash their head into the wall and "we make this because we just the because!"
Holla for them homegirl!
<well, she did "Holla">
But IF they so stick'd to da Timby-boy oh-so badly... Look, the current look is an OMNIMECH, deal with it! Omnis looks as they do because their build-up\setup of equipments. If you "unlock" those you literally and necessary alter the overall shape! I doubt they would create a new model for the Howl albeit THEY MUST. Omnis are bulkier and if you revert them to a mere, inferior, obsolate version their look became more primitive. Revert them is essentially a f**kin' redesign!
So, yes, I were perhaps offensive. But when such things could be evaded by a few minutes of thinking who may not became angry and offensive? Or they just love all the harsh-speak they receive for such things? I know, BDSM is also a sexual minority and pride&suchz...
The Timberwolf were a bad choice for reversion without a new model. It is not some mock-up. But they threw the lore and BT\MechWarrior franchise out of the window long since...
I am very unsure about them and their deeds, seriously.
And I still say: I only buy Howl if that would be an omni! Without the chance of swapping arm-pods or suchz it is quite a meaningless design. A buffed Catapult with clantech weapons.
And if they are so boned around tech-switching: Really add 10 tons for Firestarter and Blackjack to make them OMNI! You dig this hole for yourselves, PGI! You have literally no more excuses not to have IS omnis ingame! Now it is a MUST thing for you no matter if you like it or not!
Stuffs and consequences (like I would be more hated after this again, but meh! Sometimes this must happen to force things into any directions - but the direction is now UP 2 U!)...

...

Sorry, I ended up more de®pressed again that I wanted...

Literally, you can make its load out with OMNIPODS ALREADY. If we got it as an omnimech, nothing new would of came from it. Would of been useless.

the check engine light, on 20 June 2023 - 03:12 PM, said:

"nooooooo I can't pwn as many n00bz now!!!!1!!! ;_;"

Good, and screw you for thinking P2Wmoar is okay.

If thats to me, lmfao. I don't think P2W is ok. I said I'm fine if they nerf the thing. But this is why I stay away from the forums. This toxicity.

[Rhaelcan]

MookieDog, on 20 June 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:

Once again, the quirks on the Clan mechs.. rock solid.. only a +80% range for ATMs. However a +2 HSL for LPPC's for the Quickdraw which only has four slots for energy weapons, so ya... somewhere there is a lost LPPC looking for a home on the Quickdraw which cant be mounted.

Not to mention one of the lowest mounted ballistic hardpoints in the game, awesome, stellar, good job.

The Desperada is basically a Quickdraw 5K with some extra quirks with the same weapons: four blue lasers.

There could have been a lot of more thought put into that one, but at this point in the game... we are still wishing too much. Much like the rescale.

That +2 LPPC HSL is for the gauss rifle.

[Rhaelcan]

the check engine light, on 20 June 2023 - 03:12 PM, said:

"nooooooo I can't pwn as many n00bz now!!!!1!!! ;_;"

Good, and screw you for thinking P2Wmoar is okay.

If the Desperada warhorn doesn't sound like Caramelldansen Speedycake Remix I will be disappoint.

Prepare to be disappointed. It's a UWU

[D V Devnull]

Hey, people... Could anyone tell me why there appears to be changes for the Hatchetman in the June 2023 Patch when there is no information for reading about it?

~D. V. "Why are there no June 2023 Patch Notes about those Hatchetman changes?" Devnull

[Cryzak]

Omg and i bought HOWL from store before realised STEAM pack is much better deal. Thats stupid and im stupid.

[TheCaptainJZ]

To all the people upset about the lore, may I interest you in a copy of MechAssault?

Cryzak, on 21 June 2023 - 09:14 AM, said:

Omg and i bought HOWL from store before realised STEAM pack is much better deal. Thats stupid and im stupid.

Email support and ask for a refund. They might be able to work with you on that. Matt specifically put these up on Steam so they'd have regional pricing, something he wants to broaden for more accessibility for players around the world. He actually mentioned a revamp of the whole store and retiring all the previous mech packs so they could be reworked but that hasn't happened yet.

Edited by TheCaptainJZ, 21 June 2023 - 10:52 AM.

[Voice of Kerensky]

PocketYoda, on 18 June 2023 - 05:39 PM, said:

I can't see why anyone would hate drop decks in quickplay they would be so handy.. You don't even have to allow all 4 mechs to drop.. just have four different mechs with different camos etc to be ready to drop.

Alpine map pops oh i can use my large laser boat or a lrmboat.. HPG map arrives ohhh i can use my brawler or erlarge mech.. Viridian bog ok now its my fast mechs or Brawlers etc...

Instead of currently oh i'm in my brawler and everyone picked Alpine 7 mins of wasting my time..

Is English not your native language?
Plaese, read what the developer writes:

InnerSphereNews, on 16 June 2023 - 04:02 PM, said:

and bringing some sort of respawn (drop decks potentially) into Quick Play.

I draw your attention to the fact that the developer is talking about respawning in battle. He doesn't talk about having a dropdeck to choose a mech before a match. He's talking about respawning.

And, given the lack of a team-balancing matchmaker in the game, PGI's lack of competence to create it, and the presence of some unpleasant groups of players with sadistic inclinations, I quite share people's hatred of the idea of respawning in battle in a quick play.

[KursedVixen]

instead of respawn may i propose either 1 repair bays refit bays or 2 consumables that do the same?



Repair drone: repairs 50% max damage of your mech up to 100%

Refit drone: Refills 50% ammo up to 100%

Edited by KursedVixen, 21 June 2023 - 11:56 PM.

[KursedVixen]

TheCaptainJZ, on 21 June 2023 - 10:46 AM, said:

To all the people upset about the lore, may I interest you in a copy of MechAssault?


Email support and ask for a refund. They might be able to work with you on that. Matt specifically put these up on Steam so they'd have regional pricing, something he wants to broaden for more accessibility for players around the world. He actually mentioned a revamp of the whole store and retiring all the previous mech packs so they could be reworked but that hasn't happened yet.

wish i could upgrade my rhino pre-order on steam.

[Roodkapje]

Wishmast3r, on 17 June 2023 - 07:56 AM, said:

Well there goes my 4xATM12, TC7, BAP build.

Even the much heavier Mad Cat doesn't take that build well so what the heck were you planning ?!

FYI :
3 x ATM-9
1 x ATM-12
Some TAG
1 x ER PPC
2 x LMG's

On the Mad Cat 2 or 4 I believe is pretty much the limit!

KirtM, on 17 June 2023 - 11:53 AM, said:

I'm also not too interested in dropdeck respawns in Quickplay. Usually it is very hard to make a comeback when losing and respawns would prolong the suffering of the losing team. If they want to implement some sort of dropdeck, they could make it where you queue in as a weight class and then choose one of your mechs once map is chosen so your brawlers aren't useless due to map picks.

I am just wondering how the heck they are going to balance people bringing 2 or 4 mechs with them ?!?!

IMHO it's going to be one huge disaster waiting to happen!

Grey Hook, on 17 June 2023 - 01:40 PM, said:

While Steel Shanks grabs that sorely-needed Guiness, I have a question.
Would the introduction of a Legendary Mech with a hefty buff to ATM range make this a good time for some official info regarding ATMs- specifically the damage/range brackets? It has been very difficult to find any authoritative info- though there are plenty of differing opinions about them offered with varying degrees of certainty in the forums, reddit, etc. Is this a lot to ask? Just some actual numbers.
I think the new mechs are good- they have personality. They're clearly not for everyone, and there is no pleasing some folks. I guess that's why there's Guiness?

Better in-game details for the various ranges would be welcome indeed !!!

Wishmast3r, on 18 June 2023 - 01:37 AM, said:

Some comments in this thread ...
If the nascar loving QP players will uninstall MWO, when drop decks are intruduced to QP, so be it.

NASCAR ?! Where ?!

Haven't seen NASCAR in months since the maps got "deNASCARed" so to speak...

Gas Guzzler, on 18 June 2023 - 05:23 PM, said:

Yeah so Dire Wolf Battlemech when?

Wouldn't mind upping that engine a bit!

PocketYoda, on 18 June 2023 - 05:39 PM, said:

I can't see why anyone would hate drop decks in quickplay they would be so handy.. You don't even have to allow all 4 mechs to drop.. just have four different mechs with different camos etc to be ready to drop.

Alpine map pops oh i can use my large laser boat or a lrmboat.. HPG map arrives ohhh i can use my brawler or erlarge mech.. Viridian bog ok now its my fast mechs or Brawlers etc...

Instead of currently oh i'm in my brawler and everyone picked Alpine 7 mins of wasting my time..

But that doesn't seem to be the plan!

C337Skymaster, on 18 June 2023 - 06:16 PM, said:

This is where my own alternative recommendation comes into play. This is something I've been considering for a couple of years, as a way to make Omnis feel "Omni" again, but the programming would be the same for all 'mechs, or just Omnis:

Instead of a "drop deck", you enable the "load" button from the 'mechlab in the post-voting screen, so you can load saved builds of that specific chassis.

So you're in your 4x SRM6, AC/20 Atlas, and everyone picked Alpine. Instead of switching to a 4x ERLL Hellbringer (which would totally mess up any sort of weight distribution that the matchmaker might be trying to implement), you can pick your 4x LRM5, Gauss Rifle build for that same Atlas.

Your idea is probably easier to balance "tonswise" but I am afraid it will never happen...

Steel Shanks, on 18 June 2023 - 07:29 PM, said:

No... No one wants lame CoD style MechWarrior matches... CoD is a Cancer... MWO was far from this style of game, but is sadly moving ever closer... Legendary Nonsense, Drop-Decks, etc. come on... Sad...

Indeed !!!

Don't turn MWO into those crap games!

AyKu, on 18 June 2023 - 07:35 PM, said:

I love all the events and new DLCs. I wish there were more of them.

If there were any operation DLC, I would buy it immediately.

For example, if night maps were offered as DLC under the operation name, I would purchase them.

They did this in Battlefield 4 game and attracted the attention of many players.

Battlefield 1/2/3/4/One/etc. are all pure crap made by EA Games DICE Team and are pretty much the worst games to spend your money on !!!

I learned the hard way... Trust me!

Aidan Crenshaw, on 18 June 2023 - 10:05 PM, said:

Go to https://mwomercs.com.../list/full.json for all the current values

HOLY CRAP!

Can't we have those details in some nice official MWO Wiki or something ?!

the check engine light, on 18 June 2023 - 11:45 PM, said:

players will still choose mechs that aren't optimal for a map.

Sad but 100% TRUE! LOL!

Steve Pryde, on 19 June 2023 - 09:40 AM, said:

So, no more dropping with a mech that isn't suited for map xy? How tragic...

Event queue with drop decks is the most fun game mode at the moment we have by far. Something like that at every time? Hell yeah!

Then leave it there and don't move all that crap to Quick Play please!

sycocys, on 19 June 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

For the quickdraw - Isn't the ghost limit on light ppc 3 already? +2 would give it more limit than energy slots.

And this ladies & gentlemen is the level of skill and knowhow in MWO these days!

PocketYoda, on 19 June 2023 - 06:16 PM, said:

I don't get your hate for drop decks.. Its gonna make life so much easier.

Not the way P.G.I. and our precious Cauldron seem to be going to implement it sadly...

Ralph Edwards, on 20 June 2023 - 08:22 AM, said:

Yeah I'm in my 40s now but if we just completely abandon lore then are we really playing in this franchise or are we just playing walking world of tanks?

Well said!

Cheeks Akimbo, on 20 June 2023 - 10:03 AM, said:

Those complaining about lore do know that the video games were never canon right?
Let them have a special new fun TBR, no it's not meta, no it's not "Correct lore", but it does look like fun and that's what counts in video games.

Ahh! You are one of those "I play for fun and don't care about losing 0-12 because I only care about myself and not my team!" players I am guessing ?!

Rebel Ace Fryslan, on 20 June 2023 - 10:10 AM, said:

[BUG] not showing consumbales correctly to team members.

Huh ?!

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[BUG] every day crashes as standard even with a new machine, not submitting any report, because it doesn't seem like a priority to PGI last years.

If MWO crashes on you then it's 100% your PC and not the game unless some crappy patch stuff happend, which barely happens IIRC.

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[Cheat] i have seen one clear wall-hack user on my side of the teams.

MWO has soo many glitches on many maps and a very funky buggy spotting and scanning system so are you sure you did not see that occur ?!

People cheating in this game are very rare IMHO

AyKu, on 20 June 2023 - 01:32 PM, said:

It could have been better.

Let's not ruin our mechs the way those cars are ruined, OK ?!

Reminds me of the times when "trampstamps" were popular... LOL!

Hawk Moon, on 20 June 2023 - 08:55 PM, said:

Can't fix the cheaters and aim bots

Seriously : Where ?! Who ?!

Voice of Kerensky, on 21 June 2023 - 10:44 PM, said:

Is English not your native language?
Plaese, read what the developer writes:

I draw your attention to the fact that the developer is talking about respawning in battle. He doesn't talk about having a dropdeck to choose a mech before a match. He's talking about respawning.

And, given the lack of a team-balancing matchmaker in the game, PGI's lack of competence to create it, and the presence of some unpleasant groups of players with sadistic inclinations, I quite share people's hatred of the idea of respawning in battle in a quick play.

AMEN!