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[Will9761]

In regards to the Howl being converted into a BattleMech, I have nothing wrong with it. There are 3 (or five if you want to count the Koshi and Black Hawk. They still share the same tonnage as their Omni counterparts) instances where Clan OmniMechs have been converted into BattleMechs:

1. Clan Coyote's Lupus was an OmniMech converted into a BattleMech called the Hellfire by Clan Star Adder to test out their Heavy Laser family.
2. Clan Jade Falcon converted the Cougar OmniMech into the Cougar-XR BattleMech as a way to test out their Partial Wing System.
3. Clan Wolf-in-Exile's Arctic Wolf was intended to be an OmniMech and Clan-tech testbed for both them and the Kell Hounds, but because of technical issues, it was converted into a BattleMech.

However I will say if you're gonna be converting Clan OmniMechs into BattleMechs, then you better add the Lupus as an OmniMech companion for the Hellfire. It should have been there with the Hellfire Mechpack from the start. Also give us IS OmniMechs to go. I don't care if you have to buff up the side torsos or quirk them up to infinity, but if you're going be doing that to Clan Omnis, you might as well give us IS Omnis to break the monotony of MWO.

Edited by Will9761, 21 June 2023 - 07:26 AM.

[KursedVixen]

EDACRA, on 21 June 2023 - 05:59 AM, said:

Can we raise the volume on the Growl Warhorn?

It is more of a purr than a growl and get lost among all the other battle noises.

or make it a diffrent toned howl like how the clan wolf warhorn is.

[Ronbo]

LordNothing, on 20 June 2023 - 11:07 PM, said:

i kind of like it. is quirked for atms, but you could cram four ballistics into the thing. other timbies are bad with ballistics for their lack of pod space and being able to downgrade the engine to make tonnage is nice. shoulder ballistics pods would have been nice but you cant have everything.

This and its a Timby is why I got it. Im now able to do an all ballistics build, a brawler build, plus this ATM build (or LRMS...) Just couldnt with other Omnis due to the slots.

For anyone wondering, the unquirked range of the ATMs is 1980M. Max range of sensors is around 1280 max.
Would need LOS to target and a spotter to reach that range. I do believe the high damage range is in the 4-500m range, but I havent checked if it shows on chart.

[LordNothing]

atms do hit a little harder in the long range bracket than lerms, at least per missile. 1.6 vs 1 (base value of 2 and the multipliers are 1.25, 1, and 0.8). the close range values are the ones that got destroyed. overall damage is less due to lack of saturation.

i tried using the atms with a ppc and lmgs as backup, and it left a lot to be desired for backup weapons. i dont like to run guided weapons as the bulk of a build 50% is usually enough. but with only a single ppc to break locks and 4 useless lmgs, which id have plucked if i had better use for the tonnage.

Edited by LordNothing, 21 June 2023 - 12:48 PM.

[LordNothing]

this badge is adorable. meow.

or is it a seal with an identity crisis, idk.

cute either way.

Edited by LordNothing, 21 June 2023 - 01:14 PM.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

...I was really hoping for a Cicada and Awoo but I like Desperada.

Not for the quirks, not necessarily for the chassis base. It's cheeky as hell.

[KursedVixen]

I hink the howl needs some atm ammo quirks you only get like 30 shots total. if you keep all the ATms.

added to the fact you only get one laser point your gonna run out of ammo almost garunteed mg, ammo quirk wouldn't hurt either.

I really push for the atm ammo quirk though.

Edited by KursedVixen, 21 June 2023 - 04:21 PM.

[PocketYoda]

LordNothing, on 20 June 2023 - 11:14 PM, said:

just because i like **** does not mean that i support the pride movement or the woke left. me liking **** is not a political issue and if i was going to fly a flag, it would have a giant **** on it.

I'm 100% with you.. i'm way more Right leaning now since the crazy activists jumped on ruining everything including my beloved Franchises..

KursedVixen, on 21 June 2023 - 08:33 AM, said:

or make it a diffrent toned howl like how the clan wolf warhorn is.

Yes then it would work for Clan Coyote.

LordNothing, on 21 June 2023 - 01:13 PM, said:

this badge is adorable. meow.

or is it a seal with an identity crisis, idk.

cute either way.

I like the Senpai decal.

Will9761, on 21 June 2023 - 06:55 AM, said:

In regards to the Howl being converted into a BattleMech, I have nothing wrong with it. There are 3 (or five if you want to count the Koshi and Black Hawk. They still share the same tonnage as their Omni counterparts) instances where Clan OmniMechs have been converted into BattleMechs:

1. Clan Coyote's Lupus was an OmniMech converted into a BattleMech called the Hellfire by Clan Star Adder to test out their Heavy Laser family.
2. Clan Jade Falcon converted the Cougar OmniMech into the Cougar-XR BattleMech as a way to test out their Partial Wing System.
3. Clan Wolf-in-Exile's Arctic Wolf was intended to be an OmniMech and Clan-tech testbed for both them and the Kell Hounds, but because of technical issues, it was converted into a BattleMech.

However I will say if you're gonna be converting Clan OmniMechs into BattleMechs, then you better add the Lupus as an OmniMech companion for the Hellfire. It should have been there with the Hellfire Mechpack from the start. Also give us IS OmniMechs to go. I don't care if you have to buff up the side torsos or quirk them up to infinity, but if you're going be doing that to Clan Omnis, you might as well give us IS Omnis to break the monotony of MWO.

The Lupus kinda looks like a Transformer.. Is it Dabbing?

Edited by PocketYoda, 21 June 2023 - 06:13 PM.

[KursedVixen]

PocketYoda, on 21 June 2023 - 06:00 PM, said:

I'm 100% with you.. i'm way more Right leaning now since the crazy activists jumped on ruining everything including my beloved Franchises..



Yes then it would work for Clan Coyote.



I like the Senpai decal.



The Lupus kinda looks like a Transformer.. Is it Dabbing?

No no no the arctic wolf was a battlemech from the start designed to be an omni-but they wanted to work out the bugs.


Wouldn't mind the Lupus or older omnis like the woodsman in game..

Edited by KursedVixen, 21 June 2023 - 06:32 PM.

[Will9761]

Thank you for clearing that up about the Arctic Wolf, I thought it was the other way around.

[BLACKR0SE]

very sweet

[KursedVixen]

Will9761, on 21 June 2023 - 06:46 PM, said:

Thank you for clearing that up about the Arctic Wolf, I thought it was the other way around.

I could be wrong i never read the books but Sarna does say that the battlemech was made first. and then the less desired omni before the arctic wolf II was created which was a omni that took the best from the battlemech version (Speed ECM weapons)

[PocketYoda]

There are a lot of closet furries in Battletech it seems.

[Mkoll666]

KursedVixen, on 21 June 2023 - 04:00 PM, said:

I hink the howl needs some atm ammo quirks you only get like 30 shots total. if you keep all the ATms.

added to the fact you only get one laser point your gonna run out of ammo almost garunteed mg, ammo quirk wouldn't hurt either.

I really push for the atm ammo quirk though.

mech is op as is, also u can just downgrade the engine to get more ammo

[Mkoll666]

Ronbo, on 21 June 2023 - 10:43 AM, said:

This and its a Timby is why I got it. Im now able to do an all ballistics build, a brawler build, plus this ATM build (or LRMS...) Just couldnt with other Omnis due to the slots.

For anyone wondering, the unquirked range of the ATMs is 1980M. Max range of sensors is around 1280 max.
Would need LOS to target and a spotter to reach that range. I do believe the high damage range is in the 4-500m range, but I havent checked if it shows on chart.

full good full ballistic build is not good, you can fit in 4uac5 but a black widow just does it better and lighter and better hardpoints iwth quicks and extra armor and you also cant make use out of the masc,
the 350 engine requirment eats too much tonnage, but 2uac10 1 erppc jjs and masc is pretty nice

[KursedVixen]

Mkoll666, on 22 June 2023 - 01:40 AM, said:

full good full ballistic build is not good, you can fit in 4uac5 but a black widow just does it better and lighter and better hardpoints iwth quicks and extra armor and you also cant make use out of the masc,
the 350 engine requirment eats too much tonnage, but 2uac10 1 erppc jjs and masc is pretty nice

without jam quirks uac's are horrible better off with C-ac10's no jam one less round per burst more range only downside is theire one slot bigger ,but with a mech like that is it a downside??

Edited by KursedVixen, 22 June 2023 - 01:56 AM.

[Mkoll666]

KursedVixen, on 22 June 2023 - 01:53 AM, said:

without jam quirks uac's are horrible better off with C-ac10's no jam one less round per burst more range only downside is theire one slot bigger ,but with a mech like that is it a downside??

2 AC10 1 erppc has just not enough dps nor burst. with UACs you can atleast trade properly. and reposition while being jammed with masc
and just because it does not have quirks does not make uacs horrible lmao

Edited by Mkoll666, 22 June 2023 - 05:29 AM.

[Andrewlik]

PocketYoda, on 22 June 2023 - 12:55 AM, said:

There are a lot of closet furries in Battletech it seems.

Clanners

[Ch0c0L4t3m1Lk]

hey, question about the ATM quirks. i see the 80% range increase. does this only increase the max effective range of the missiles or does it also mean that the close range where ATMs do more damage is also increased 80%. eg. can i hit a target 80% farther before the damage drop off at medium range. or are the damage ranges the same but now they are effective for 80% farther in long range?

[Mechwarrior2342356]

PocketYoda, on 22 June 2023 - 12:55 AM, said:

There are a lot of closet furries in Battletech it seems.

A lot of furries in general and they've been around for a while. Most of them don't bother making a big deal about it in places like this. The most notable noisy one I can think of is on my shitlist for other reasons.