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[KursedVixen]

Will9761, on 28 June 2023 - 08:10 AM, said:

I don't believe that IS Omnis would break the game. Using a special (Clan-based) IS XL engine would help to balance any problems they might pose. They can't even equip Stealth Armor.

nope no special egines your stuck with what comes in them even if it's an IS XL.

because if you get a special engine so does clan.

Edited by KursedVixen, 01 November 2023 - 04:02 PM.

[Will9761]

KursedVixen, on 01 November 2023 - 04:02 PM, said:

nope no special egines your stuck with what comes in them even if it's an IS XL.

because if you get a special engine so does clan.

Would you think that LFE based variants of IS OmniMechs would break the game? They are described as the only equivalent to Clan XL's lorewise. After all the only IS Omni that has an LFE engine is the Hauptmann. Would you be opposed to the Hauptmann getting an LFE engine?

[Battlemaster56]

Will9761, on 01 November 2023 - 08:17 PM, said:

Would you think that LFE based variants of IS OmniMechs would break the game? They are described as the only equivalent to Clan XL's lorewise. After all the only IS Omni that has an LFE engine is the Hauptmann. Would you be opposed to the Hauptmann getting an LFE engine?

The Hauptman uses a standard 285 engine not a 285 lfe engine.

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hauptmann

[pbiggz]

KursedVixen, on 01 November 2023 - 04:02 PM, said:

nope no special egines your stuck with what comes in them even if it's an IS XL.

because if you get a special engine so does clan.

There was a lot of discussion in this thread months ago about how PGI should simply be willing to change Omnimech engine stats if its the difference between making a mech good and a mech being useless trash. I for one would rather have more cool things in the game than less, though, naturally, the fact that it is IS that would be getting a fun thing, is unacceptable to you.

[Battlemaster56]

I'll be honest they can try the water with R variants of IS Omnimechs they're obviously mixtech and it be a interesting addition to the game just lock clan weapons in specific omnipods and don't offer them any out of so8 quirks unless the mech is super bad overall, and boom IS Omnimechs become much more interesting, so IS can have access to some juicy clan stuff while the clana can have access to the C variants of IS mechs which is a truck load to pull from.

[Will9761]

Battlemaster56, on 02 November 2023 - 04:39 AM, said:

The Hauptman uses a standard 285 engine not a 285 lfe engine.

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hauptmann

Thank you letting me know. Good Looking out. I'm gonna fix that in the thread.

pbiggz, on 02 November 2023 - 05:37 AM, said:

There was a lot of discussion in this thread months ago about how PGI should simply be willing to change Omnimech engine stats if its the difference between making a mech good and a mech being useless trash. I for one would rather have more cool things in the game than less, though, naturally, the fact that it is IS that would be getting a fun thing, is unacceptable to you.

Same here I'm glad that PGI is working on new tech to make the game more viable, heck they are even testing the idea with the shields being equipment. I'd be curious to see how they would do Partial Wings on Jumper mechs. The Shadow Cat Booster Mech was a missed opportunity.

As for KursedVixen, I see now that he is so full of it. I wanted to give him a chance to explain his claim of how IS Omni XL's would break the game, but I didn't see that. Especially when bringing up the Hauptmann which doesn't have an IS XL. So it is what it is. Whenever you have a person who calls themselves a "Battletech Purists" that literally translates to, "I don't know I'm talking about and I'm unwilling to be open to change." After all this is a guy who criticized the colors of the UrbanMech IICs, Haske and Abbadon even thought they are based on Clan Coyote's Zeta Galaxy and Clan Hell's Horses' Delta Galaxy respectively.

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing IS Omnis have Standard Engine Variants or Light Fusion Engine Variants if PGI doesn't want to go the "IS Omni XL" route. After all, if they could turn the Howl into a Clan BattleMech and make the Annihilator C Gausszilla, then anything is possible.

Edited by Will9761, 02 November 2023 - 10:21 AM.

[LordNothing]

sometimes i wonder if omnimechs are hard coded clan.

there are long standing solutions to every problem that is omnis would pose. forced xl? just add st armor quirks, forced std, more firepower quirks. so why dont we have any? seems to indicate there is some technical issue that's hard to crack.

[Will9761]

That's what I wonder as well when it comes to IS Omnis. Sometimes I ask myself how hard it is to code something like that in? Granted while I have never used CryEngine, wouldn't it be as easy as copying the OmniMech mech code and pasting it as something else?

[Will9761]

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[Will9761]

I'm just gonna say this, but the thought that The Clans should be the only faction who are allowed to have OmniMechs is a foolish notion. I welcome more change whether it's new mechs, maps and/or new weapons. MWO needs to change and I'll gladly pay top dollar for an IS OmniMech pack instead of packs based on Clan BattleMechs, Clan OmniMechs and IS BattleMechs.

Edited by Will9761, 18 November 2023 - 03:02 PM.

[Will9761]

The Raptor now has 246 votes

[Will9761]

The Hauptmann now has 398 votes. Almost close to 400, very nice.
The Raptor now has 247 votes

I do hope that if IS Omnis come out someday, we could get some sort of public test and poll from the devs to see where people stand with the IS XL issue.

[Will9761]

Ok everybody it's official, IS OmniMechs are coming to the game. Now first it's gonna be a Black Hawk KU for a testing point, but hopefully down the line, PGI will do other IS Omnis such as a Templar, Hauptmann, Men Shen, and others. So thank you all for keeping the discussion going casting your votes and voting in support of the mechs. I am so happy right now. I might get a mod to close down this thread later on.

[Meep Meep]

Looks like someone has convinced pgi to keep the olde girl afloat a while longer. Guess that hardcore base that refuses to quit or stop spending on the game gets its day.

[Will9761]

Yep, they finally gave me a reason to spend money again. Heh heh.

[Alex Morgaine]

I swear if necro or april fools....

oh... oh my.

[LordNothing]

while is omnis is a thing ive wanted. i have to give this a resounding meh for being too little too late. with the population hovering at 16k. not only is it low but its hovering, meaning only the most die hard grognards remain, those who have already contributed significantly to the game. hard to call it a game anymore as much as a whale dairy.

[Will9761]

LordNothing, on 13 April 2024 - 03:37 PM, said:

while is omnis is a thing ive wanted. i have to give this a resounding meh for being too little too late. with the population hovering at 16k. not only is it low but its hovering, meaning only the most die hard grognards remain, those who have already contributed significantly to the game. hard to call it a game anymore as much as a whale dairy.

I understand where you're coming from. There are things that PGI should have done, but didn't, so I get it. It's frustrating seeing progress being slowed to snail's pace or being ignored outright. It does amaze me that after all these years that PGI could have done something to improve the game they decided do it now. But hey as the saying goes, "better late than never." Still I am happy that we get to see IS Omnis despite this.

[Meep Meep]

LordNothing, on 13 April 2024 - 03:37 PM, said:

while is omnis is a thing ive wanted. i have to give this a resounding meh for being too little too late. with the population hovering at 16k. not only is it low but its hovering, meaning only the most die hard grognards remain, those who have already contributed significantly to the game. hard to call it a game anymore as much as a whale dairy.

Apparently its enough loyal players with open wallets for marketing to ok doing this. So the game is still kicking in its autumn years. It should last at least long enough for the new pvp game to hit.

[w0qj]

Exciting times, IS Omnimechs

Question: Does IS Omnimechs allow side torso swaps (besides the arms and legs swap)?