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[Weeny Machine]

epikt, on 16 November 2023 - 06:38 AM, said:

If only he wasn't AFK...

Thumbs up

[Curccu]

ScrapIron Prime, on 16 November 2023 - 07:20 AM, said:

In addition to scaling the mech, you also have to scale each bolt on made for it separately. And just changing the size of the bolt on won't fix it, as it will hover near the smaller mech where the original body part used to be, so you have to work the XYZ of the thing too.

I mean, its all doable, but it's dedicated work for each mech chassis. And this is evidently very low on the list of priorities.

They should have previous data of that also... or Russ deleted that by accident.

[KursedVixen]

Curccu, on 16 November 2023 - 08:35 AM, said:

They should have previous data of that also... or Russ deleted that by accident.

OR they just have bad coding pratices and computer habits...

[LordNothing]

ScrapIron Prime, on 16 November 2023 - 07:20 AM, said:

In addition to scaling the mech, you also have to scale each bolt on made for it separately. And just changing the size of the bolt on won't fix it, as it will hover near the smaller mech where the original body part used to be, so you have to work the XYZ of the thing too.

I mean, its all doable, but it's dedicated work for each mech chassis. And this is evidently very low on the list of priorities.

well if the bolt ons are submodels, and the scale factor affects the topmost container object then it should propagate down through the hierarchy and scale everything correctly.

Edited by LordNothing, 16 November 2023 - 08:56 AM.

[LordNothing]

KursedVixen, on 16 November 2023 - 08:40 AM, said:

OR they just have bad coding pratices and computer habits...

bad coding practices: not retaining coders who know the codebase. leaving too many things hardcoded. not designing for long term support. not supporting gpu power states that came into being while the code was neglected (fullscreen bug, and that could be fixed bv writing an exception handler).

best games have the lead developer in bed with the company. if not the ceo directly, no further down than #3 in the food chain. they rise and fall with the company. ever wonder why various idtech engines have been extremely tight, its because john carmack ran the show. when he does talks he doesnt mention growth figures or market share, he talks about swizzle formats and memory paging.

Edited by LordNothing, 16 November 2023 - 09:22 AM.

[Besh]

the check engine light, on 16 November 2023 - 10:27 AM, said:

[...]damn but the rationale for the change should be posted here I think.

+1 .

[feeWAIVER]

Curccu, on 16 November 2023 - 02:09 AM, said:

Daeron Katz is PGIs community manager.

Is Daeron even alive? When's the last time anyone's seen that guy?
Maybe someone should do a wellness check.

[KursedVixen]

the check engine light, on 16 November 2023 - 10:27 AM, said:

Not sure about echo chamber. There's a lot of contentious dissent between people here. By contentious dissent I mean bitching at each other mostly, but dissenting opinion nevertheless.

I concur with the idea that rebalance decisions should at least get a cliffsnotes breakdown on the forums. I still don't understand the point of the TDR10SE change. I strongly doubt my feedback would matter a good god's damn but the rationale for the change should be posted here I think.

Laser vomit bad no matter what side it comes from and does not support sniper Cauldron meta.

The fact they don't post reasons could be another reason entirely....

Edited by KursedVixen, 16 November 2023 - 10:55 AM.

[Tarteso]

Frost_Byte, on 14 November 2023 - 02:29 PM, said:

There's a lot of feedback and thoughts here and I encourage everyone to join the discord server to voice their opinions. To be honest, the forums is kind of an echo chamber and not a lot of it gets heard.

Even if you don't want to discuss or give feedback, y'all shouldn't have to wait for someone to repost to the forums and can get your information straight from the source.

The spread on HAGs was already so low that removing it doesn't really change much. But those heat nerfs are severe, and the cooldown nerf is moderate. It's a pretty big nerf to how much HAGs can farm.

So forums are an echo chamber... take a look at any highly contributed post to see people arguing from "white" to "black" and every "grey" tone between, whatever the matter is: lurms, lights, ...
Where the echo is? Perhaps you hear way more miscellaneous opinions, not in the Discord they shared, but in their closed door meetings of the "Highest and Magnificent True Game Balance Gurus"?
Are they even reading this forum, then discussing seriously about other thoughts out of their own echo chamber? For example, have been a lot of "negative echoes" about the latest spread reduction in HAGs. What we get? zero spread. Take a look at their discord "leak" post. Reactions: :thubs up: :diamond: :heart: ... Echo echo echo....

the check engine light, on 16 November 2023 - 10:27 AM, said:

Not sure about echo chamber. There's a lot of contentious dissent between people here. By contentious dissent I mean bitching at each other mostly, but dissenting opinion nevertheless.

Yeah, exactly

the check engine light, on 16 November 2023 - 10:27 AM, said:

I concur with the idea that rebalance decisions should at least get a cliffsnotes breakdown on the forums. I still don't understand the point of the TDR10SE change. I strongly doubt my feedback would matter a good god's damn but the rationale for the change should be posted here I think.

Maybe some things are... hard to explain? Embarrassing to support or refute? Even further if recorded in written form.

Edited by Tarteso, 16 November 2023 - 11:50 AM.

[LordNothing]

feeWAIVER, on 16 November 2023 - 10:49 AM, said:

Is Daeron even alive? When's the last time anyone's seen that guy?
Maybe someone should do a wellness check.

i figure hes too busy pulling double duty as the games only engineer.

Edited by LordNothing, 16 November 2023 - 12:39 PM.

[LordNothing]

the check engine light, on 16 November 2023 - 11:42 AM, said:

I hate laservomit because I hate playing it. Lasers aside from XPL, LL are probably in a good spot right now. XPL are facetime when facetime is usually a nono, LL are redundant.

my preference leans into ballistics pretty heavily. while i do take up devils advocate positions on lerms and lasers, its because i want the weaponry to be diverse and give the players build options and make the game in general more dynamic. constant normalization just makes everything more or less the same or marginally different and the gameplay becomes static as a result.

[H4RDCA5E]

So, even more idi0tic or meaningless changes at best. Ever since this so called cauldron took over, they are flying it straight to the ground. Not to mention the new map which is just trash like the others, the hag or binary, and the list is getting longer rapidly.
Can you please stop?

[Curccu]

feeWAIVER, on 16 November 2023 - 10:49 AM, said:

Is Daeron even alive? When's the last time anyone's seen that guy?
Maybe someone should do a wellness check.

https://mwomercs.com...267-daeron-katz
At least someone does posting with his account not that long ago.

[Moadebe]

Something to remember about Daeron and Matt. They have obligations for MW5 as well. MWO is not their sole gig.

So just cause we haven't heard something doesn't mean stuff isn't happening.

[Rabid Imp]

Frost_Byte, on 14 November 2023 - 02:29 PM, said:

The spread on HAGs was already so low that removing it doesn't really change much. But those heat nerfs are severe, and the cooldown nerf is moderate. It's a pretty big nerf to how much HAGs can farm.

Unless you play lights, because it was actually pretty helpful.

[Weeny Machine]

KursedVixen, on 16 November 2023 - 10:54 AM, said:

Laser vomit bad no matter what side it comes from and does not support sniper Cauldron meta.

The fact they don't post reasons could be another reason entirely....

My Raven was one-shotted by dual HAG 30 last match from half across the map when I peeked and fired at an enemy. Balance my arse... So much for reason

So, why not make x pulse lasers equally nasty as HAGs, that when you get close to a heavy or assault you can saw through him in record time...too bad: heat restricts that and balances the weapon. And again we are at "risk vs reward". Nothing balances HAGs and the heat nerf won't do anything to prevent what I mentioned above

Edited by Weeny Machine, 18 November 2023 - 01:55 AM.

[Curccu]

feeWAIVER, on 16 November 2023 - 10:49 AM, said:

Is Daeron even alive? When's the last time anyone's seen that guy?
Maybe someone should do a wellness check.

You see, IT lives!
https://mwomercs.com...17#entry6519117

[The6thMessenger]

KursedVixen, on 14 November 2023 - 11:01 AM, said:

I think all lights need a minor back armor buff since they of all mechs will be running away from mechs.

How TF are you being nailed from the rear as a light?

You nail people from their rear, not the other way around.

Meep Meep, on 14 November 2023 - 02:34 PM, said:

Yeow..

Their discord is also an Echo Chamber, it's just so happens it's filled with the people they agree with, and it's a space that they control instead.

JediPanther, on 14 November 2023 - 10:18 PM, said:

Pgi telling you to not use their own fourm as the primary source of info for their own game. Yeah I'll echo champer a laugh on how sad that is. HA HA AH AH! Neat, it works.

^This.

Maybe just shut down the forums then if they're not going to use it.

Void Angel, on 15 November 2023 - 01:31 PM, said:

PS: the forum definitely can be an echo chamber, with a number of posters (past an present) being willing to shoehorn their personal hobby horse into every conversation, or simply shout down opposition.

Any place can be an echo-chamber, the issue here is more like trading one echo-chamber into another, and the kicker is that they control the conversation now. And the key people that have to make nice due to CoC, no longer has that incentive.

I also prefer forums with long-form write-ups so I can better prepare my thoughts, than a water-fall of chat-messages that I have a trouble following.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 20 November 2023 - 06:14 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

The6thMessenger, on 20 November 2023 - 05:54 PM, said:

I also prefer forums with long-form write-ups so I can better prepare my thoughts, than a water-fall of chat-messages that I have a trouble following.

TBF, this is why most companies leverage threads (not in discord, more so on slack). Otherwise you end up with what they have which is a mess of a multiple conversations and having to "reply" to people to keep track of which one is which.