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#21 JediPanther

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Posted 16 November 2023 - 05:40 PM

View PostfeeWAIVER, on 16 November 2023 - 03:18 PM, said:

Is anyone else excited for WWIIi, or is it just me?


I heard a fallout series /is/was in the works. I'm still stuck in ww2. Love reading about all the tech develops on radar,sonar, the "looks" of various war machines and type 7s subs. Sadly grandpa passed before I could get any korean war stories. He never talked about it and much of the family was told not to bring it up.

The cheap way to make a bt like movie is just go 80s and reedit and sub/dub some old movie clips together in a nightmare fit to raise the dead editors of the past in a fit of rage thus ensuring both bt movie and zombie horror movies.

#22 Lanzman

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Posted 16 November 2023 - 07:25 PM

Still think the Fourth Succession War (Stackpole's Warrior trilogy, IOW) would make a hell of a maxi-series on like HBO or Amazon or something.

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Posted 16 November 2023 - 11:57 PM

View PostLanzman, on 16 November 2023 - 07:25 PM, said:

Still think the Fourth Succession War (Stackpole's Warrior trilogy, IOW) would make a hell of a maxi-series on like HBO or Amazon or something.

I would like to see an all-new story with all-new characters.

I think that it would be much better than some boring recycling of an old story with some old Mary Sues, when you know exactly who is going to say what and who is going to do what, and that the story is going to conclude with this and that.

#24 Richard Hazen

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Posted 17 November 2023 - 12:47 AM

Ideally it would have multiple movies/tv series, if there were multiple you could start it prior to the Clan invasion, then seccessive movies/series could flow into their arrival, but if it's not multiple you could to start with the clan invasion, I think it would be the most entertaining for the casual viewer.

Victor would be a good character imo he goes through a lot of ups and downs, if they toned down his main character syndrome a bit it would work but as martian said we know what happens with him so thats a downside to reusing him.

#25 Will9761

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Posted 17 November 2023 - 01:01 AM

I would love to see a BattleTech series like this:
Something like, Games of Thrones meets Battlestar Galactica


The way how I would do it is that the first season focuses on each Successor State and characters from that Successor State. The first season focuses on the late Succession Wars and ends at the Early Clan Invasion.

Edited by Will9761, 17 November 2023 - 06:21 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2023 - 09:25 AM

View Postepikt, on 16 November 2023 - 05:24 PM, said:

You're totally delusional.
It's YOU that entered this conversation fantasizing the presumed woke audience wanting that "natasha kerensky is black and hans davion is a gay woman. melissa steiner is trans" when nobody ever said anything like that.
Then you try create a smoke screen by telling how progressive you are, yet your words are pure right wing anti woke morale panic.
Oh, maybe you're not lying when you say you "even own a desparada. [you're] bisexual and [are] a sexual cross dresser", but allow me to seriously doubt it - if you really are (after all, even Dave Rubin exists), then you're the one in your ivory tower and are among the most uneducated about issues that affect you and your peers.



im not delusional, i have eyes, ive seen what's been done to existing franchises. everything i mentioned has been done in some show (except for boobmechs, thats more an anime thing). i can see disney stock price drop. i can see communities in uproar.

you cannot come up with your own talking points so you just 180 my own words. this lack of creativity is reflected in the franchises your ilk tend to vandalize. appropriate an franchise with a pre-existing fan base, do your swaps, apply your political philosophy, your slogans, demonize existing heroes and replace them with your own. the same old script repeated ad nauseum. the end result is a show that's predictable and boring. the built in fanbase leaves in disgust and the modern audience never materializes. how is this financially viable?

case in point. who plays mwo more. aging neckbearded grognards or modern audiences. i dont deny that both exist in the playerbase, but which one has the larger proportion? frankly im surprised pgi doesn't offer discounts for aarp members.

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Posted 17 November 2023 - 01:13 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 17 November 2023 - 09:25 AM, said:



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frankly im surprised pgi doesn't offer discounts for aarp members.


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Get off my lawn sonny!

Edited by CFC Conky, 17 November 2023 - 01:14 PM.


#28 w0qj

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Posted 17 November 2023 - 05:19 PM

Here's an idea of the detailed background Star Trek lore (characters, background + subplots).


Whilst the type of details here may overwhelm a non-Trekkie fan, this gives an idea of the kind of detail that the army of Star Trek story writers have spun up.

Similar situation in the Star Wars franchise also!


View Postw0qj, on 16 November 2023 - 01:23 PM, said:

Micros*ft is about to own Activision outright, thus finally bringing BattleTech under one roof?

It would finally be possible to push for good BattleTech movie(s), and eventually even TV/streaming episode series to help widen the fanbase. A fanbase also help drive merchandise sales.

Just look at what the Star Wars / Star Trek ecosystem did.

Also look at what the movies did.
The first Pacific Rim movie almost single-handedly created a cult following to this day, 10+ years after this movie!
A good movie, with characters fleshed out. It's not just the mech machines. It's the characters, plot, suspense, etc.
(I feel the second Pacific Rim movie was not so great--also a lesson in contrast. A series killer actually).

Update: Pacific Rim apparently has its own N*tflix TV series now...

A good cult movie kickstarts a new generation of BattleTech fanbase, enabling the hiring of an army story/lore writers, eventually allowing for regular TV/streaming episodes, and the virtuous cycle ensues... Posted Image


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Posted 17 November 2023 - 05:59 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 17 November 2023 - 09:25 AM, said:

i have eyes

If in your opinion the reason shows like, I don't know, 'Rings of Power' are bad is because there are black women in it, well, you really should reevaluated your criterion. Oh, sure, there are quite some things to say about how these "diversity" characters are sometimes written (a critique with a progressive lens I mean, not "ouin-ouin there's a black person in my TV"), but their inclusion is never the problem.
You're might be right about the most of the Battletech fanbase being "aging neckbearded grognards", but those grognards don't have to be massive bigots feeling threatened by the mere existence of LGBT and black folks.

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Posted 18 November 2023 - 06:26 AM

View Postepikt, on 17 November 2023 - 05:59 PM, said:

If in your opinion the reason shows like, I don't know, 'Rings of Power' are bad is because there are black women in it, well, you really should reevaluated your criterion. Oh, sure, there are quite some things to say about how these "diversity" characters are sometimes written (a critique with a progressive lens I mean, not "ouin-ouin there's a black person in my TV"), but their inclusion is never the problem.
You're might be right about the most of the Battletech fanbase being "aging neckbearded grognards", but those grognards don't have to be massive bigots feeling threatened by the mere existence of LGBT and black folks.


Sidenote: Ring of Power is terrible because they literally butchered the story (if you have read the books). Sorry, this series is my sore spot :)

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Posted 18 November 2023 - 07:34 AM

View PostWill9761, on 17 November 2023 - 01:01 AM, said:

I would love to see a BattleTech series like this:
The way how I would do it is that the first season focuses on each Successor State and characters from that Successor State. The first season focuses on the late Succession Wars and ends at the Early Clan Invasion.
I would avoid complicating the things too much, i.e. too many characters, too many factions, too many agendas, too many places, etc.

Essentially, you can have a good story with two factions (for example, two Great Houses), maybe with ComStar and some secondary factions thrown in.
Something like the first Gray Death trilogy.

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Posted 18 November 2023 - 02:08 PM

View Postepikt, on 17 November 2023 - 05:59 PM, said:

If in your opinion the reason shows like, I don't know, 'Rings of Power' are bad is because there are black women in it, well, you really should reevaluated your criterion. Oh, sure, there are quite some things to say about how these "diversity" characters are sometimes written (a critique with a progressive lens I mean, not "ouin-ouin there's a black person in my TV"), but their inclusion is never the problem.
You're might be right about the most of the Battletech fanbase being "aging neckbearded grognards", but those grognards don't have to be massive bigots feeling threatened by the mere existence of LGBT and black folks.


its not bigotry to defend what you love from those who would destroy it.

you calling it bigotry doesn't make it bigotry either. meanwhile you act like biggots towards anyone with ideas that are even slightly different from your own.

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Posted 18 November 2023 - 07:50 PM

RoP was horrible and I only watched a few episodes here and there. They totally disrespected The good professor Tolkien's works.

I'm all for inclusivity but they took it to an extreme, and IMO destroyed Tolkien's vision of Middle Earth in the 1st age.

It was so much worse than what Peter Jackson did to the Hobbit. I didn't even bother buying that hot mess on dvd like I did The Lord of the Rings. Even it was bad but far more truer to the books.

Also the writing on RoP was horrible!!! and the casting could have been better.

I've been a scholar of Tolkien since I was 15, what they did was terrible!

Classic Literary works should not be made to be Politically correct or with "modern times" stay true to the works, not to press the woke agenda or all the other B.S. conformity that is expected these days so no one gets their feelings hurt.

Edited by Rondoe, 19 November 2023 - 02:25 AM.


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Posted 24 November 2023 - 02:41 AM

View Postmartian, on 18 November 2023 - 07:34 AM, said:

I would avoid complicating the things too much, i.e. too many characters, too many factions, too many agendas, too many places, etc.

Essentially, you can have a good story with two factions (for example, two Great Houses), maybe with ComStar and some secondary factions thrown in.
Something like the first Gray Death trilogy.
Or even more down to earth, start with a merc crew in the *** end of nowhere and keep faction politics in the background until the sequel.

View Postepikt, on 16 November 2023 - 05:24 PM, said:

You're totally delusional. It's YOU that entered this conversation fantasizing the presumed woke audience wanting that "natasha kerensky is black and hans davion is a gay woman. melissa steiner is trans" when nobody ever said anything like that.
Was he?
Or was he talking about what modern film studios would do because they presume there will be such an audience?
In recent decade it's become common for them to pursue such audiences and prioritize political messaging over producing good entertainment.
Disney, Netflix and Amazon Studios have done that to various degrees, but it's neither limited to them nor even contained to the film industry.
There are good and bad ways to have inclusion and representation in a story, and retooling characters or retconning lore to meet DEI checklists is the latter - while being a common, even default, approach for writers who are lazy, uncreative or lack the talent to write characters with any actual depth.
Hell... as of late, I've heard that 1984 has been "updated for modern audiences" - and if you know anything about 1984, that's irony itself.

Edited by Horseman, 24 November 2023 - 09:54 AM.


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Posted 24 November 2023 - 05:09 AM

View PostHorseman, on 24 November 2023 - 02:41 AM, said:

Or even more down to earth, start with a merc crew in the *** end of nowhere and keep faction politics in the background until the sequel.

Actually, this is pretty close to how the storyline of Decision at Thunder Rift (and the Gray Death saga) unfolds. That is why I suggested it. Posted Image

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Posted 24 November 2023 - 11:02 AM

View Postmartian, on 18 November 2023 - 07:34 AM, said:

I would avoid complicating the things too much, i.e. too many characters, too many factions, too many agendas, too many places, etc.

Essentially, you can have a good story with two factions (for example, two Great Houses), maybe with ComStar and some secondary factions thrown in.
Something like the first Gray Death trilogy.

I see your point. Maybe something like the late Succession Wars that focuses on Victor Steiner-Davion for the FedCom side and Hohiro Kurita on the Draconis side. Maybe the show could focus on their growth as we see them mature during the Clan Invasion.

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Posted 24 November 2023 - 01:35 PM

I tried to sit through the animated show exactly once.

Oof. Lets not.

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 07:56 AM

honestly the folks doing "Hired Steel" have done a fantastic job so far. just toss them enough cash and some extra help and i think they would do fine.

to be honest some the best shows (or at least Pilots) that I have seen in the last couple years have been from small indie groups not big studios. they are making actual good entertainment. i am not getting into the woke/anti-woke bullcrap, its more that the big studios are more interested in in pure profit with the least amount of actual effort or work (i don't blame the actors/writers its the big head honchoes that make things crap.) so yeah leave any new Battletech show in the hands of the indie folks. (i would love to see more episodes of "Hired Steel"

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Posted 16 April 2024 - 05:15 PM

what in the unholy toxic hell is this entire thread. meaningless buzz word after meaningless buzz word. just look at statistics for support of x/y/z topic and you'll actually understand why mega corporations (whose primary goal is profit) and you'll understand why the change in market tl;dr it's demand-side, not supply-side.

nevertheless a mechwarrior movie could be cool. lots of good lore. probably would have to be an indie company doing it, maybe A24 could





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