102 replies to this topic

[ScrapIron Prime]

pekez, on 06 December 2023 - 08:04 AM, said:

Can you explain to me like i'm five why the servers needs to load every possible thing from a database for rendering instead of what is defined in the mech build? Just curious, it sounds a lot like the recent diablo 4 "we have to load every player inventory and stash you meet".

EDIT: to clarify from previous posts i get the impression that the size of the whole database is the issue or number of IDs and it ALL gets loaded no matter what.

You're mostly correct. There's one of two things going on here:

1 - The server loads up the database, and loads the assets it needs. Every match it loads more assets as they are encountered until eventually it loads an asset that breaches the limit (or an asset with a table row over the maximum allowed row number) and the server crashes, dumping all the maps/matches in progress on that one server and refusing new ones until restarted.

OR

2 - The server loads up the database, but the table with assets in it is too large and cannot be loaded, resulting in an error and a dead match.

Which one depends on exactly how things are implemented, and this is the part I can only guess at. Given the performance of the game and the fact it sometimes works, I'm inclined to think the former.

This is all part of the mystery solving fun that devs and admins get to do when something blows up, and I'm pleased to see PGI narrowed in on the problem rather quickly during a holiday weekend and have a code fix tested and ready in under two weeks.

Uh... you guys DID test the fix, right?

[pekez]

Now wouldn't it be funny if the asset limit is just some definition of say signed 16 bit value.

[MarsThunder]

Client crashes will return to normal. It sounds good.

[Thorgrim Malthus]

Wonderful news, and im happy to see the devs streamlining the game's items in a massive way.

I hope the Devs will consider doing the same with camo patterns across mechs, as the current system of 'unlocking' for 1000+ MC comes off as frankly predatory towards newer, naive players when they realize it is set to Unlock by default, and are specific only to that mech. Which, even if you have all variants of a particular mech, applying the camo individually as a one-shot is always cheaper by a vast margin.

Though if the unlock price was across all mechs, similar to how unlocking colors already function, then I believe it would warrant the current MC price, and doubling to optimize the game further.

I love this game.

[FearThePaladin]

thanks for the hard work guys.

[CrustyMech]

Patching...

[Major_T]

Sucks about the downtime. But I for one am glad I can now use my bolt on items across chasis. It felt a little gamey to lock one bolt on to ONE mech chassis. See y'all on the battlefield

[CrustyMech]

Nobody on yet? I'm the only retired old fart??? All I've got is that spinning wheel...

What goes up must come down
Spinning Wheel got to go 'round
Talkin' 'bout your troubles
It's a cryin' sin

etc..

Edited by CrustyMech, 06 December 2023 - 11:11 AM.

[Skorpz]

Thanks for hard work for the fix the servers are way better then even before the issues!

[rascje]

c0ldn3s5, on 05 December 2023 - 11:00 AM, said:

bet the game still wont be fixed

Skorpz, on 06 December 2023 - 11:14 AM, said:

Thanks for hard work for the fix the servers are way better then even before the issues!

Edited by rascje, 06 December 2023 - 11:31 AM.

[Horseman]

Daemonara, on 05 December 2023 - 08:14 PM, said:

Good job! Must have been a mammoth task to sort all those bolt-ons!

Usually most of the time needed for changes to code (or data) is spent not on the change itself but on testing it and validating that it doesn't cause any unintended outcomes.

Max J Wolf, on 05 December 2023 - 10:14 PM, said:

And ID's...Really?.. before the patch everything was fine, how could adding a few mechs and map make things go from stable to this!((

The classic straw that broke the camel's back.

Edited by Horseman, 06 December 2023 - 11:48 AM.

[martian]

InnerSphereNews, on 05 December 2023 - 12:06 AM, said:

HOTFIX INCOMING + NOTES

This patch also includes a fix for the Centurion Chassis that has been shown to cause client crashes.


Here's what you should expect post-patch:

• Server stability should return to normal
  
• Client crashes (from the Centurion) should be fixed

Greetings, Matthew!


Thanks for making my favorite 'Mech legal again!

I just had a great game on Canyon Network:



I tested the patch and dropped in my rarest Centurion variant ... and it works fabulously - both the 'Mech and the patch! No crash!



Thanks again for your expeditious work!

[CrustyMech]

martian, on 06 December 2023 - 11:54 AM, said:

Greetings, Matthew!


Thanks for making my favorite 'Mech legal again!

I just had a great game on Canyon Network:



I tested the patch and dropped in my rarest Centurion variant ... and it works fabulously - both the 'Mech and the patch! No crash!



Thanks again for your expeditious work!

The free mech from 2013/14! I'll have to take the tarp offa mine

[simon1812]

Matt Newman, on 06 December 2023 - 08:22 AM, said:

Mechs are locked once the group is made and the mech is sent the DS for mode and map selection
The DS fails to start due to timing out while attempting to load item list from Database.
Stats are reported at the end of the match. If the match doesn’t start, the match doesn’t end.

Thank youuuu!!!!!

[SuperN00va]

Fix is working. Thank You and much appreciated

Edited by SuperN00va, 06 December 2023 - 01:02 PM.

[DrFeelBad]

Hey both Clan and IS LRMs are bugged, they are shooting wild out of the tubes, sometimes at right angles, sometimes straight back, seems to be fine if dumb-fired but happens when locked on. This was discovered in testing mode.

[RalphyNoPants]

Good work getting a solution implemented so quickly, I really appreciate it. You are doing better than some major payment processors I work with on that front.

DrFeelBad, on 06 December 2023 - 01:23 PM, said:

Hey both Clan and IS LRMs are bugged, they are shooting wild out of the tubes, sometimes at right angles, sometimes straight back, seems to be fine if dumb-fired but happens when locked on. This was discovered in testing mode.

I just tested this on Canyon Network with a Diaper Whale

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and a Catapult

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and was unable to replicate the error.

[martian]

DrFeelBad, on 06 December 2023 - 01:23 PM, said:

Hey both Clan and IS LRMs are bugged, they are shooting wild out of the tubes, sometimes at right angles, sometimes straight back, seems to be fine if dumb-fired but happens when locked on. This was discovered in testing mode.

I tested it and LRMs work for me as they should.

[DrFeelBad]

RalphyNoPants, on 06 December 2023 - 01:48 PM, said:

Good work getting a solution implemented so quickly, I really appreciate it. You are doing better than some major payment processors I work with on that front.



I just tested this on Canyon Network with a Diaper Whale

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and a Catapult

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and was unable to replicate the error.

Is it a Frozen City thing?

[DrFeelBad]

It seems to happen with a unspeced NovaCat