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[martian]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 11:44 AM, said:

Do all these crashes affect our player stats?

Typically, they do not. If you are returned to your Mechlab with the message "No available servers could be found etc.", then there is no game in progress and thus you will not lose your PSR or anything else..

[DAEDALOS513]

martian, on 05 December 2023 - 12:24 PM, said:

Typically, they do not. If you are returned to your Mechlab with the message "No available servers could be found etc.", then there is no game in progress and thus you will not lose your PSR or anything else..

I wonder why the mech is 'locked' then if a server wasn't found..?

[martian]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 12:25 PM, said:

I wonder why the mech is 'locked' then if a server wasn't found..?

Some matchmaker design peculiarity, probably.

[Ralph Edwards]

Glad to hear it! Thanks for making this a priority

[PraetorGix]

Grey Hook, on 05 December 2023 - 12:08 PM, said:

Any chance the legendary mech bolt-ons will be unlocked for use on other mechs as well?

Now THAT would be amazing. Super unlikely, but amazing.

[HassonAssassin]

Thanks for the hotfixes and quick turn arounds lately!

Curious if the unlocked Legendary 'Mech Bolt-On's can be trasferred to mechs of the same chassis or somehow unlocked to do so?

It would be an incentive to have chassis unlockable bolt-ons to buy other Legendary 'mechs for sure.

Thanks again, and all the best!

[bilagaana]

The time and effort the members of the team have put into resolving this issue are much appreciated.

[w0qj]

MWO fan-maintained patch history updated for prosperity!
https://mwomercs.com...auldron-changes

[DAEDALOS513]

martian, on 05 December 2023 - 12:27 PM, said:

Some matchmaker design peculiarity, probably.

Also, the reason why I don't fully believe these crashes aren't affecting our stats. I wish people wouldn't answer unless they knew definitively.

[Divine Logic]

Hell yeah! Nice work!

[ScrapIron Prime]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 12:25 PM, said:

I wonder why the mech is 'locked' then if a server wasn't found..?

Well I don't work there, but I know servers.

1 - 24 players brought into a queue
2 - server is assigned, database begins loading their assets for rendering
3 - server barfs over the database error
4 - everyone dumped out of match because server failed, assets locked
5 - we get an error message about the database failing to load assets. But since the user interface doesn't have exact language for this, we get a generic "Server not found" error

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

Also, the reason why I don't fully believe these crashes aren't affecting our stats. I wish people wouldn't answer unless they knew definitively.

Stats I can't speak to. But servers... pretty dang sure.

[Daemonara]

Good job! Must have been a mammoth task to sort all those bolt-ons!

[Max J Wolf]

Same here, I understand the loading of assets issue, but I have been playing the last week or so and the issues are getting worse for me as time goes on. Not only no server found and lock out of match, but, 2 mech bays...yes it's been reported but first for me. And logging out didn't fix the issue. I played one game... This isn't some ID problem, it's a deeper corruption!(( Like I haven't played any Centurions lately, I was playing Blight when my game CTD. Just saying it's getting worse, and now I here what everyone is saying. Seriously, I hope this patch tomorrow does fix the game, not make it worse.

And ID's...Really?.. before the patch everything was fine, how could adding a few mechs and map make things go from stable to this!((

[Aidan Crenshaw]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

Also, the reason why I don't fully believe these crashes aren't affecting our stats. I wish people wouldn't answer unless they knew definitively.

Matt Newman, on 03 December 2023 - 12:42 AM, said:

The entire match fails. No one is in the match. No PSR changes as the match does not officially spin up.
Unfortunately the Mechs still get locked as that happens when the match group is created, the map and mode are chosen, and all the information is sent to the server.

PS going to bed now



Ah I see what you mean. Yes on other projects but I can always call on them in times such as these!

[Mark Yore]

I think the changes to bolt-ons will increase the number of people equipping them. Since you're no longer limited to bolt-ons fitting only one chassis it makes it viable to swap them between your mechs, much as the warhorns are swapped around.

[martian]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

Also, the reason why I don't fully believe these crashes aren't affecting our stats. I wish people wouldn't answer unless they knew definitively.

My stats before and after crash were identical.

[IndgoMan]

Excited to get back in and get some games rocking.

[pekez]

ScrapIron Prime, on 05 December 2023 - 03:14 PM, said:

Well I don't work there, but I know servers.

1 - 24 players brought into a queue
2 - server is assigned, database begins loading their assets for rendering
3 - server barfs over the database error
4 - everyone dumped out of match because server failed, assets locked
5 - we get an error message about the database failing to load assets. But since the user interface doesn't have exact language for this, we get a generic "Server not found" error



Stats I can't speak to. But servers... pretty dang sure.

Can you explain to me like i'm five why the servers needs to load every possible thing from a database for rendering instead of what is defined in the mech build? Just curious, it sounds a lot like the recent diablo 4 "we have to load every player inventory and stash you meet".

EDIT: to clarify from previous posts i get the impression that the size of the whole database is the issue or number of IDs and it ALL gets loaded no matter what.

Edited by pekez, 06 December 2023 - 08:13 AM.

[Znozoic]

thx pgi

[Matt Newman]

DAEDALOS513, on 05 December 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

Also, the reason why I don't fully believe these crashes aren't affecting our stats. I wish people wouldn't answer unless they knew definitively.

Mechs are locked once the group is made and the mech is sent the DS for mode and map selection
The DS fails to start due to timing out while attempting to load item list from Database.
Stats are reported at the end of the match. If the match doesn’t start, the match doesn’t end.