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Patch Notes - 1.4.289.0 - 12-December-2023


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#161 KursedVixen

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 07:36 AM

View Postmartian, on 13 December 2023 - 12:28 PM, said:


The event is live. Check this link: Mwo Holiday Bonus Free Mech Event
no the event is not live it doesn't start for another 10 days...

#162 martian

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 07:49 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 14 December 2023 - 07:36 AM, said:

no the event is not live it doesn't start for another 10 days...

I meant that the link is active and the event description, etc. has been finally announced.

Edited by martian, 14 December 2023 - 08:13 AM.


#163 Hawok79

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 11:51 AM

View PostInnerSphereNews, on 09 December 2023 - 10:20 PM, said:

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CLAN DOUBLE HEAT SINKS

  • Clan Double Heat Sink dissipation rate has been reduced to 0.2 heat per second per heatsink (from 0.22). This affects both internal engine heat sinks and externally mounted heat sinks.




This getting ridiculous now!

I have a Warhark with two Hag 30 and two ML. Heat MGMT is 1.67/2 and i can no longer defend myself in a brawl against a light without overheating.Even without using the lasers, i quickly reach overheat.

#164 KursedVixen

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 12:49 PM

View PostHawok79, on 14 December 2023 - 11:51 AM, said:

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This getting ridiculous now!

I have a Warhark with two Hag 30 and two ML. Heat MGMT is 1.67/2 and i can no longer defend myself in a brawl against a light without overheating.Even without using the lasers, i quickly reach overheat.
RIP, Dunno what else to say that I haven't already... Caudron just wants you to press o and blow yourself up....

Edited by KursedVixen, 14 December 2023 - 12:51 PM.


#165 Voice of Kerensky

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 10:33 PM

I would like to say a little about the past patch.
1) You have degraded clan double heat sinks at first glance by only 0.02 h/s, but in percentage terms this is equal to 9%. That is, in other words, you have practically abolished the “cool run” improvement branch for Clans. You know, it was necessary to do just that, just remove the entire “cool run” leveling up branch for Clan mechs. Why do the Clans even need it?
You can argue that this degradation does not affect single heat sinks, and therefore the "cool run" improvement tree is still relevant for single heat sinks. But hey. Let's be honest? Who needs single radiators? The same applies to their strange “improvements”.
And, by the way, I have serious suspicions that single heat sinks (both Clan and Spheroid) in reality do not correspond to the characteristics declared in the mechlab. But in order to say something accurately, I need to carry out calculations and experiments. Maybe I'll do it someday.
2) The lack of X-pulse improvements will be disappointing. Damage dealt < heat generated + damage taken.
3) The lack of improvements to the BLC will be disappointing. They are too big, too heavy, too hot. Make the BLC better in at least one of the three listed characteristics. It seems to me that reducing their size by one slot may be the optimal solution.
4) The stubborn reluctance of PGI/Cauldron to return streaks to the battlefield will be disappointing.
5) Biggest disappointment. For three years in a row, you, PGI, have been promising to solve the problem of the quality of matches, the problem of groups in qick play, but you have not taken any visible real actions with a noticeable positive result. It is especially disappointing that you prefer to bashfully hush up this problem.

#166 MOPCKOE

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Posted 15 December 2023 - 07:06 AM

CLAN DOUBLE HEAT SINKS NOTHING CHANGES
On my HBR meta build i dont feel any changes. According to the numbers, they seem to have cut its efficiency by 2 radiators, but this is not felt at all.

Another imaginary “nerf” of clans by -0.0001 percent. Cause this is clan's

#167 Dogistan

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Posted 15 December 2023 - 09:14 AM

View PostMOPCKOE, on 15 December 2023 - 07:06 AM, said:

CLAN DOUBLE HEAT SINKS NOTHING CHANGES
On my HBR meta build i dont feel any changes. According to the numbers, they seem to have cut its efficiency by 2 radiators, but this is not felt at all.

Another imaginary “nerf” of clans by -0.0001 percent. Cause this is clan's


It is felt on non meta dps builds that run hot. Basically they nerfed Clan mechs that weren't causing any trouble and made the meta alpha builds more likely to be the only Clan mechs anyone plays. IE: Deep rooted double sided power creep.

Edited by Dogistan, 16 December 2023 - 01:25 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2023 - 02:16 PM

What a stupid solution, Just like a few comments predicted. Solves nothing, now you've just expanded the problem. Of course they are not actually trying to balance the game anyway.

#169 ADI84000

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 10:39 AM

can someone from cauldron explain the reasoning behind nerfing clan double heatsink by 10% ?

#170 KursedVixen

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 11:15 AM

View PostADI84000, on 16 December 2023 - 10:39 AM, said:

can someone from cauldron explain the reasoning behind nerfing clan double heatsink by 10% ?
clan Alpha OP was all that i pretty much saw behind the reasoning ,but i'm not cauldron ,but I doubt you'll get an answer so

#171 martian

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 11:26 AM

View PostADI84000, on 16 December 2023 - 10:39 AM, said:

can someone from cauldron explain the reasoning behind nerfing clan double heatsink by 10% ?
Read this to know the official explanation, please:

View PostFrost_Byte, on 20 November 2023 - 04:08 PM, said:

Starting in December we plan on slowing time to kill. The first is probably a clan double heatsink nerf. But most of cauldron is aware of time to kill quickening to the point of becoming a problem. We just wanted to avoid radical changes to the meta until Champion Series is over.


View PostKursedVixen, on 16 December 2023 - 11:15 AM, said:

clan Alpha OP was all that i pretty much saw behind the reasoning ,but i'm not cauldron ,but I doubt you'll get an answer so

They have already given you the answer. See above.

#172 Far Reach

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 12:15 PM

What are you people smoking out West? Must be WILD.


Get your asses in gear and roll back that embarrassing and reactionary clan heatsink nerf.

#173 Praetor Andreas

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 12:45 PM

Unfortunately, the patch has hardly helped. The game has been almost unplayable for weeks. When I fire at the center of a slow mech with a laser, I usually hit the shoulder. From a speed of 80, sometimes nothing at all. People within a radius of 1000 km tell me that it doesn't work any better for them either. You should definitely hire someone to improve the latency. It works in other :( games too.

#174 Dogistan

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 01:30 PM

If they wanted to reduce time to kill why did they buff standard heatsinks and leave IS DHS where it is?

Edited by Dogistan, 16 December 2023 - 01:30 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2023 - 02:44 PM

View PostDogistan, on 16 December 2023 - 01:30 PM, said:

If they wanted to reduce time to kill why did they buff standard heatsinks and leave IS DHS where it is?

Because except for a handful of edge case ERLL type builds, SHS were virtually unused. By making the first 10 do a bit more, it gives some slight variation to build possibilities outside the edge cases.

#176 Jormunrek

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 06:20 PM

I hope this doesn't come across as ungrateful, but do you think you could put the warhorns ingame on sale as well?
Unfortunately the only two legendary warhorns I wanted more of aren't in the bundle. And while picking up potentially some of the solaris warhorns I might've missed out on from being gone since 2020/2021 is tempting. Just not at that price tag since there's not really anything there I really want.
But there are "regular" warhorns I'd dump mc on (or the two particular legendary warhorns I wanted more of).

Apologies for interrupting the great heat sink debate of 2023, as you were...

(not expecting a response, but one would be awesome)

#177 martian

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Posted 17 December 2023 - 12:18 AM

Do not forget to play one game in a week, so you can claim your free Warhammer and Commando.

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 19 December 2023 - 12:01 AM.
quote clean-up


#178 Dogistan

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Posted 17 December 2023 - 03:21 AM

I'm just busy playing IS and getting this stocking stuffing stuff done and then I will stop playing until the Clan neutering has been reversed in some way. Its not nice when 80% of my mechs which are not meta get nerfed for no reason.

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Posted 17 December 2023 - 03:43 AM

View PostDogistan, on 17 December 2023 - 03:21 AM, said:

I'm just busy playing IS and getting this stocking stuffing stuff done and then I will stop playing until the Clan neutering has been reversed in some way. Its not nice when 80% of my mechs which are not meta get nerfed for no reason.
If you wish. When I deploy in my Clan 'Mechs, I see no big difference.

#180 Mechsniper

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Posted 17 December 2023 - 11:27 AM

A Christmas Santa Mech should have always been an ATLAS... too easy.. Warhammer O.o....





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