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[Moadebe]

simon1812, on 28 December 2023 - 04:46 PM, said:

start anywhere, just not at the event queue.

There is nothing wrong with starting in event que. Its there for everyone to try and have a little fun in. Break up the QP soup a little. Not only that, but as you can see...."Not alot of people playing event que" is going around....what? You want to lessen that player pool? In an already small player pool game? For selfish reasons? Mmmmk.

There is nothing wrong with someone being inexperienced and going into event que. Again...everyone starts somewhere.

[VaMPHuNT]

simon1812, on 28 December 2023 - 04:46 PM, said:

start anywhere, just not at the event queue.

I mean... why not start in the event queue?

Newer players are far less likely to get torn apart in EQ since there are fewer guns that can be pointed at them if they expose at the wrong time or turn the wrong corner.

Not to mention it's a fantastic way to potentially make a lot of cbills in a very short period of time. And honestly? It's the newer players who are going to need that income boost to be able to buy different mechs, refit their existing mechs, experiment with different builds, and not feel like they're absolutely locked into playing either trial mechs or a mech with a sub-optimal build.

As has been mentioned before, we all started somewhere. PGI is very giving these days in terms of cbills/MC with their events and EQ payouts. Let the newer players take advantage of it, might end up seeing more stick around than otherwise would if the EQ didn't exist, and that may end up meaning some of their friends end up playing as well.

[Pz_DC]

Please use specified color for hunted players nicknames because it's hard to keep them all in mind so IMHO most of us, players, just "shoot all moving objectives with red triangle and hope it will be one of hunted targets"...

Edited by Pz_DC, 29 December 2023 - 01:10 PM.

[Jolly Llama]

Is there any option to ignore the matchmaker and just drop me with anyone? I truly don't care who I drop with, I just don't want to wait 30 minutes to get a game.

[CwStrife]

Jolly Llama, on 29 December 2023 - 01:49 PM, said:

Is there any option to ignore the matchmaker and just drop me with anyone? I truly don't care who I drop with, I just don't want to wait 30 minutes to get a game.

The event is dead, it doesn't state it but no groups are allowed for these events. This game is built on teamwork and groups. The fact you can even run a 2 man group for these events is why they are dead, everyone just goes right back to QP, and the few people who are willing to do it solo suffer. Lack on PGI for not listening to community.

[CwStrife]

Moadebe, on 29 December 2023 - 04:02 AM, said:

There is nothing wrong with starting in event que. Its there for everyone to try and have a little fun in. Break up the QP soup a little. Not only that, but as you can see...."Not alot of people playing event que" is going around....what? You want to lessen that player pool? In an already small player pool game? For selfish reasons? Mmmmk.

There is nothing wrong with someone being inexperienced and going into event que. Again...everyone starts somewhere.

The queue is dead because there is no groups. They finally figured out to run the right maps and combination but eliminated anyone being able to group up effectively killing the event. It's sad because it's so close to being great. Having new players jump into that and then die is also prolly the worst thing for their morale whereas QP would be less heart ache, but thats where finding a good group of people to play with comes in as well! lol

I think they goofed on the 6v6 canyon network cuz they allowed 4 man groups. But what I can tell you is we were insta-dropping the entire night. Ready up, and boom match. Even when I ran solo as well, instant drops, and the most we had on our group was 3 people that night.... Meanwhile 15-20 minute wait on matches now. Jee thanks for not listening PGI. smh

Edited by CwStrife, 29 December 2023 - 02:51 PM.

[Jolly Llama]

CwStrife, on 29 December 2023 - 02:36 PM, said:

The event is dead, it doesn't state it but no groups are allowed for these events. This game is built on teamwork and groups. The fact you can even run a 2 man group for these events is why they are dead, everyone just goes right back to QP, and the few people who are willing to do it solo suffer. Lack on PGI for not listening to community.

Again.

[CwStrife]

Jolly Llama, on 29 December 2023 - 02:44 PM, said:

Again.

All they need to do is something like this

12v12
Emerald Vale
Skirmish
Groups up to 4
Drop Deck Max Tonnage 285
3x C-Bills and XP
25 Minute Match

8v8
Canyon Network
Domination
Groups of 4
3x C-Bills and XP
10 Minute Match

6v6
Crimson Strait
Conquest
Max Tonnage 70
Groups of 2
3x C-Bills and XP
10 Minute Match

And it would be instant drops, but nope, no groups, lol. I think PGI likes to shoot themselves in the foot on purpose.

Edited by CwStrife, 29 December 2023 - 02:53 PM.

[Pz_DC]

IDK what's your problem is - this group event is a mistake coz it's nothing more then simple QP with "groups-only", when "groups only" is a mode for coptetetive players only... Mean if you want drop as a group you will find other unit to drop with, or go solo if QP, drop as a group for even is the same, so why drop is "dead" even when you can easy drop is QP?..

Edited by Pz_DC, 29 December 2023 - 11:46 PM.

[Roodkapje]

Cyborne Elemental, on 22 December 2023 - 01:48 PM, said:

Daeron, why not open up the Tier gates.

Let Tier-1 through Tier-5 all play together, games would be faster, and everyone would have a better chance to play with/against some of the players on the list?

At least for a couple weeks.
Who knows, it might actually be a good thing bringing the whole community together on the same battlefield.

Tier 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't mean a thing as long as the Match Maker is broken as it is IMHO so I am surprised by all these Tier related questions ?!

It's one big soup of players and you better hope and pray that your team is the right one...

KursedVixen, on 22 December 2023 - 09:21 PM, said:

Because tier 1 would annihilate any lower tiers.

Maybe that is a good thing and force them to finally start improving their skillz ?!

I am really tired of those 6-12 or worse losses in MWO !!!

Blink for 1 second and my team is gone for some dumb reason...
Or those camping Assaults... pff...

simon1812, on 26 December 2023 - 04:49 PM, said:

Event is kinda being ruined by newbies...they are just terrible...tier 1 players should be barred from event queue...or I dont know ...maybe players that only have 3 months playing MWO? PGI can tell better whats appropriate.

I think you can blame Steam for that :

Random Game has Random Free Stuff = A lot of players who have no idea what they are doing or any actual interest in the game and are only playing to get FREE STUFF!!!111oneoneone

torsie, on 27 December 2023 - 01:18 AM, said:

I am newbie who plays this game for a month and I am having tons of fun !

But...

Are you performing or learning from others how to perform better ?!

Clicking LMB while LURMing others might be fun for some but does not really require skill and makes you one of those "I refuse to share my armor! I don't like it to be scratched !!!" players

Viltor, on 27 December 2023 - 12:56 PM, said:

After 15 minutes of waiting I finally got into 10v10 100 ton assault 4-drop deck game. And it sucked. Alot.
Assault mechs are slow, and Bearclaw map is big, not a good combination.

Bearclaw II is just a crap map...

Fantastic base for your favorite RTS game but that's about it !!!

simon1812, on 27 December 2023 - 01:57 PM, said:

I would like to think so but no, just so many ppl sucking so bad right now, too many onesided QP matches where players go about their own way or contribute nothing before dying, but 4 drops will make it better? ...no it wont, it will just make a bad/boring match be a painfully-long-bad/boring match.

100% AGREE

simon1812, on 27 December 2023 - 02:07 PM, said:

-so? that doesnt mean anything, I dont know if sucking bad for your team is your idea of fun, I do know that one sided matches are the product of newbies, no way around that.

+1

Moadebe, on 28 December 2023 - 07:33 AM, said:

Everyone starts somewhere. No need to be nasty to new players for being new.

There is New Players and there is "New Players"

In other words :

New Players that you won't see after this Event stuff and New Players that join MWO because they actually want to play MWO for many years to come!

Fat Larry, on 28 December 2023 - 04:32 PM, said:

Seeing as people are moaning about the events can i complain about the launch button not appearing after i've died and gone back to the mechlab for another match in another mech? It often gets stuck on rejoin even after changing mechs or loading into various areas etc and will take me back into my dead mech even if i've selected another. Super annoying and usually takes a while to resolve before it'll let me queue for another match.

It was like this for the last few events....

That's the "joy" of Flash (You know... that stuff we SHIFT+DELeted from the Internet !!) that was used for the MWO GUI sadly

/IIRC

It annoys me too when you just QP and lose your mech way too fast because of a horrible team and want to launch with another mech

simon1812, on 28 December 2023 - 04:46 PM, said:

start anywhere, just not at the event queue.

More like Faction Warfare but that's as good as dead so no worries there!

VaMPHuNT, on 29 December 2023 - 07:58 AM, said:

I mean... why not start in the event queue?

Newer players are far less likely to get torn apart in EQ since there are fewer guns that can be pointed at them if they expose at the wrong time or turn the wrong corner.

I think if you tell 99% of them that this game is not Call of Duty that you would see A LOT of improvement !!!

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Not to mention it's a fantastic way to potentially make a lot of cbills in a very short period of time. And honestly? It's the newer players who are going to need that income boost to be able to buy different mechs, refit their existing mechs, experiment with different builds, and not feel like they're absolutely locked into playing either trial mechs or a mech with a sub-optimal build.

Some Trial mechs are perfectly fine and probably one of the best if not the best is the Orion IIC A variant

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As has been mentioned before, we all started somewhere. PGI is very giving these days in terms of cbills/MC with their events and EQ payouts. Let the newer players take advantage of it, might end up seeing more stick around than otherwise would if the EQ didn't exist, and that may end up meaning some of their friends end up playing as well.

Events that actually teach those newbies how to play wouldn't hurt you know...

[Daeron Katz]

DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFICULTIES, EVENT QUEUE IS TEMPORARILY OFFLINE.
THE EVENT WILL BE EXTENDED TO COMPENSATE.

[simon1812]

sooooo....how many devs/streamers have you guys gotten so far?

[Artemus Prime]

RIP - Event Queue

[Wadmaasi]

4v4 Heavies on Test A yesterday was by far the most fun I've had in MWO.

[Jolly Llama]

Well, that went over like a lead balloon.

[Davegt27]

Hey Daeron Katz

could we see some stats on which streamer gave away the most MC

We want to give ReconRod a bunch of crap lol

[BrokenArrow007]

Davegt27, on 31 December 2023 - 10:40 AM, said:

Hey Daeron Katz

could we see some stats on which streamer gave away the most MC

We want to give ReconRod a bunch of crap lol

I'm going to give it to him anyway! lol

[Tarzan of Barsoom]

CwStrife, on 29 December 2023 - 02:52 PM, said:

All they need to do is something like this

12v12
Emerald Vale
Skirmish
Groups up to 4
Drop Deck Max Tonnage 285
3x C-Bills and XP
25 Minute Match

8v8
Canyon Network
Domination
Groups of 4
3x C-Bills and XP
10 Minute Match

6v6
Crimson Strait
Conquest
Max Tonnage 70
Groups of 2
3x C-Bills and XP
10 Minute Match

And it would be instant drops, but nope, no groups, lol. I think PGI likes to shoot themselves in the foot on purpose.

The problem is, groups make for the same pain new players feel when dropping into faction play. The elite players group up and curb stomp newbies and less skilled players (which I fully admit to being one of) and after a match or two the newbies move on to a less painful experience.

I haven't dropped into a faction drop in several months for this exact reason.

Edited by Tarzan of Barsoom, 31 December 2023 - 07:28 PM.

[CwStrife]

Tarzan of Barsoom, on 31 December 2023 - 07:28 PM, said:

The problem is, groups make for the same pain new players feel when dropping into faction play. The elite players group up and curb stomp newbies and less skilled players (which I fully admit to being one of) and after a match or two the newbies move on to a less painful experience.

I haven't dropped into a faction drop in several months for this exact reason.

Part of the problem with faction play is that you can run a group size of up to 12 so you can make it very unfair, plus there are certain disadvantages to some attackers or defenders depending on the map. It would be nice if faction play was just revised to some kind of quick play match that had 2-4 drops in a match... if they eliminated all the objectives and such maybe people would play it again who knows.

As for the event though, just limit group sizes unless the map being ran is like an 8v8-10v10 or something then you could allow a 4 man group and should still be alright, although anyone totally coordinated yes would have an upper hand. It is part of the game though, teamwork has always been vital to this game.... Alot of people like to stay silent and it's a big reason on why teams can lose a game too.

[P H O T O N]

I see a few strong opinions voiced regarding not allowing groups in the event queue so thought to voice my own to provide a counter point of view. For me as a family man with children I mostly drop solo as most of the time I am unable to completely disconnect from real life and involve myself in a group. Clearly the game is a team game, and for best results one drops in a group coordinating in the MechLab and on the battlefield. The game can also be played solo, but it is obviously far harder if done this way. Groups have a clear advantage over solo pilots, that's the long and the short of it. Most new players will obviously drop solo, so there is that consideration also.

For groups in event queue I think a balance is what is needed. Some events, particularly those over the festive period should permit groups as people will have more time on their hands, and will be catching up with old friends.

Regarding where to start in the game quick play is MWO's rated play and being 12 v 12 it massively punishes new players. I would say the event queue is the perfect place to start.

Edited by P H O T O N, 02 January 2024 - 04:50 AM.