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[Major Audie Murphy]

Especially the weird ones, like extra UAVs, or Bonus Seismic, or "no crit" buffs (like Number 7) and stuff like that

Or do I have to dig through ~500 mechs to look for them?

~500 mechs, divided by 60 minutes per hour.

That's ~8 hours at only 1 minute per mech. including writing down each quirk. Probably take me two days of dedicated work, in reality. More like 16 hours of work including coffee breaks, and trying to organize my notes/type them up.

Also, I just noted the Scattershot does NOT have "no screen shake while using jump jets" listed in the quirk specs. Any other mechs have unlisted quirks?

Edited by Major Audie Murphy, 17 January 2024 - 05:42 PM.

[torsie]

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs

But it seems it also doesnt show that screenshake so its probably not perfect either.

[Heavy Money]

Major Audie Murphy, on 17 January 2024 - 05:41 PM, said:

Also, I just noted the Scattershot does NOT have "no screen shake while using jump jets" listed in the quirk specs. Any other mechs have unlisted quirks?

Its because that isn't technically a quirk. It just has a different value. Same way different variants of the same chassis can have different agility and its not due to quirks.

So its just a different unlisted stat

[w0qj]

There is also the HSL Quirk List
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

Edit: and a warm welcome back to MWO!

Edited by w0qj, 17 January 2024 - 09:07 PM.

[SolCrusher]

if you look inside the pak files and open up a mdf file you can easily see the listing of quirks on the mech.

CP10Q list:

<QuirkList>
<Quirk name="missile_heat_multiplier" value="-0.05" />
<Quirk name="srm_range_multiplier" value="0.1" />
<Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="14" />
<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="10" />
<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="10" />
<Quirk name="sensorrange_additive" value="150" />
<Quirk name="critchance_receiving_multiplier" value="-0.3" />
</QuirkList>

[SolCrusher]

So basically if the MechDB guys had made the DB read the mdf files they could have a complete list of quirks for every mech.

[Major Audie Murphy]

SolCrusher, on 17 January 2024 - 09:32 PM, said:

So basically if the MechDB guys had made the DB read the mdf files they could have a complete list of quirks for every mech.

Excellent!I was hoping I would not need to do it by hand.

That's a great resource, I'm building a set of SNPPC mechs right now, all based on specific quirks.

[w0qj]

You can also goto MechDB 2.0 and [Search] for quirks (the lower left hand corner search box):
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs

For Snub Nose PPC, you may wish to search for these quirks:

Velocity
~PPC Velocity --> eg: CRB-27(R ) with +60% PPC Velocity!
~Weapon Velocity

Cooldown
~Cooldown (aka global Cooldown)
~Energy Cooldown
~PPC Cooldown

Range
~Range (aka global Range)
~Energy Range

Heat & Heat Dissipation
~Heat
~Energy Heat
~Heat Dissipation

HSL
+HSL for selected weapons
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

Do have fun exploring your options!

Edited by w0qj, 18 January 2024 - 04:34 AM.

[w0qj]

And here are 3 of the most "difficult to know" quirks:

1) No JJ shake:
Highlander Heavy Metal HGN-HM
Shadowhawk Scattershot SHD-S

2) 360 degree turn:
Vapor Eagle VGL-GW
All Urbenmechs

3) 10% Damage Reduction to the torso with the jumbo shoulder missile box, as per Feb-2023 patch:
https://mwomercs.com...-21february2023

[Major Audie Murphy]

w0qj, on 18 January 2024 - 04:33 AM, said:

You can also goto MechDB 2.0 and [Search] for quirks (the lower left hand corner search box):
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs

For Snub Nose PPC, you may wish to search for these quirks:

Velocity
~PPC Velocity --> eg: CRB-27(R ) with +60% PPC Velocity!
~Weapon Velocity

Cooldown
~Cooldown (aka global Cooldown)
~Energy Cooldown
~PPC Cooldown

Range
~Range (aka global Range)
~Energy Range

Heat & Heat Dissipation
~Heat
~Energy Heat
~Heat Dissipation

HSL
+HSL for selected weapons
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

Do have fun exploring your options!

I spent a lot of time on there playing, I love it.

Heavies are giving me trouble, I'm stuck between an extremely cool running Catapult-K2 with 4SNPPC, or one of the Warhammers.

Either make a poptart (45% JJ boost!) 4xsnppc in torso warhammer (I "think" I can alpha without shutting down, after I skill it) (IS version of pop tart Veagle!)

Or a maybe 5xsnppc warhammer with ECM b/c it has HSL+1, I don't like the low arms, but ECM is cool, would be good for city fighting not so good at hill humping.

I did not see the crab before I bought a BJ-3 3xsnppc (can alpha 2 or 3 times before overheat despite no HSL+1). BJ-3 has all ppc quirks.

Got an an AWS-8Q 6xsnppc with HSL+1.

fle-19 w/snppc and mrm10 is wicked- runs a little slow with XL125, had to trim armor, but 25 alpha with massive cooldown quirk is working really well. Pokes like a boss. I'm getting some sick damage numbers.

I also looked at the ECM Warhammer with 3snppc and MRM40, too bad they didn't armor quirk that missile box, it is massive!

[w0qj]

If you must use "only" SNPPC:
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

ANH-1E: 6xSNPPC + LE300 (has +1 HSL SNPPC)
BLR-1GHE: 6xSNPPC + XL325 (has +1 HSL SNPPC)
~fire 4x SNPPC (2+2): any Heavy Mech: suggest WHM-6R with no arms: 4xSNPPC in LT/RT, big engine
CPLT-K2: AC10 + 2xSNPPC + XL250: it wrecks!

My new love:
STK-5M(P) with 2xSNPPC + 5xSRM6 + LE300 (has +1 HSL SRM6): it wrecks!
https://mwomercs.com...ng/page__st__80

My old Ace of Spades build, from the older days before 2xSNPPC ghost heat limit, a few years ago:
MAD-6S: AC20 + 3xSNPPC + LE350 (has +1 HSL PPC Family)
https://mwomercs.com...ds/page__st__40

Edited by w0qj, 19 January 2024 - 06:12 AM.

[Major Audie Murphy]

w0qj, on 18 January 2024 - 02:05 PM, said:

If you must use "only" SNPPC:
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

ANH-1E with +1 HSL SNPPC: 6xSNPPC and LE Engine
BLR-1GHE with +1 HSL SNPPC: 6xSNPPC + XL Engine
~fire 4x SNPPC (2+2): any Heavy Mech: suggest WHM-6R with no arms: 4xSNPPC in LT/RT, big engine
CPLT-K2: AC10 + 2xSNPPC + XL Engine: it wrecks!

My new love:
STK-5M(P) with 2xSNPPC + 5xSRM6 (it has +1 HSL SRM6) + LE300 Engine: it wrecks!
https://mwomercs.com...ng/page__st__80

My old Ace of Spades build, from the older days before 2xSNPPC ghost heat limit, a few years ago:
MAD-6S: AC20 + 3xSNPPC (has +1 HSL PPC Family)
https://mwomercs.com...ds/page__st__40

I was trying to find the best SNPPC boat for each weight class.

Heavy was/is giving me fits.

thanks I'll check those builds out.

The cooldown buff on that fle-19 almost felt like God Mode.

I think I'm going to try out the Warhammer 4xSNPPC pop tart build first.

[Major Audie Murphy]

I'll look into lights after that, but I doubt I'll find anything with enough buffs to offset the flea 19's cooldown and agility, even though it's a mxed build.

That warhammer with ecm had an interesting build with 3snppc and mrm40 I'm still thinking of trying it out too. 85dmg alpha, without skills it just barely shut down on the second alpha.