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[BLXKNTRR]

Can someone provide a quirks list for the bullshark mechs?

[feeWAIVER]

BLXKNTRR, on 21 May 2024 - 03:18 PM, said:

Can someone provide a quirks list for the bullshark mechs?

I saw you in game like a weak ago, and you weren't in a black knight.
And now you're asking about the bullshark?

It's like I don't even know who you are anymore.

[ScrapIron Prime]

You can check them easily on Mech DB. The Bull Shark is there already, wicked fast of them!

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs

[BLXKNTRR]

feeWAIVER, on 21 May 2024 - 03:32 PM, said:

I saw you in game like a weak ago, and you weren't in a black knight.
And now you're asking about the bullshark?

It's like I don't even know who you are anymore.

lmao

Have no fear. I am still dedicated to the black knight. this is merely a way to introduce the next thread: the, "ok god damn it, they said the black knight didnt need a rescale or buff because its thin and can twist, well wtf the bullshark is the size of a thunderbolt and has shield arms" thread

[BLXKNTRR]

ScrapIron Prime, on 21 May 2024 - 05:11 PM, said:

You can check them easily on Mech DB. The Bull Shark is there already, wicked fast of them!

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs

excellent, but i dont see the mako?

[BLXKNTRR]

LapisMaddog, on 21 May 2024 - 05:28 PM, said:

They did say the black knight needs a rescale, though it takes almost as much work as making a entirely new mech so they aren't going to do it afaik. also black knight is perfectly fine.

Oh yes its perfectly fine
opinion aside..

Thanks for the quirk list

Edited by BLXKNTRR, 21 May 2024 - 05:38 PM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

BLXKNTRR, on 21 May 2024 - 05:22 PM, said:

excellent, but i dont see the mako?

Just like the Wolfhound and the Annihilator that have clan versions, the Clan Bullshark is a separate mech entry under clan assaults.

[BLXKNTRR]

ScrapIron Prime, on 21 May 2024 - 05:53 PM, said:

Just like the Wolfhound and the Annihilator that have clan versions, the Clan Bullshark is a separate mech entry under clan assaults.

ah i see. much appreciated

[KursedVixen]

BLXKNTRR, on 21 May 2024 - 05:22 PM, said:

excellent, but i dont see the mako?

https://mwo.nav-alph...=28399722_BSK-M

[BLXKNTRR]

KursedVixen, on 21 May 2024 - 07:00 PM, said:

https://mwo.nav-alph...=28399722_BSK-M

Ty

[Hawk819]

I wish the Bullshark 2 had a better Heat Quirk. Like say -30%. Would be nice.

That way I can get away 6 Light PPCs and maybe a couple of Heavies to go with them.

[Ignatius Audene]

Why the heck should it have 30 heat quirk....? Quirks are meant to compensate for lackluster hard points or geometry and / or give a mech unique niche.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Hawk819, on 22 May 2024 - 10:44 PM, said:

I wish the Bullshark 2 had a better Heat Quirk. Like say -30%. Would be nice.

That way I can get away 6 Light PPCs and maybe a couple of Heavies to go with them.

You don’t get amazing quirks on a chassis that has amazing hard point locations. Those side torso mounts are amazing and the arms are good too. So game balance says modest quirk, not amazing quirk.

[BlueDevilspawn]

The Bullshark is a very strong mech with good to excellent hardpoints. The greatest heat quirk I can think of off the top of my head is -15% and that's on 1 or 2 mechs. The greatest in a large number of mechs is -10%.
I'm fairly certain -30% is out of the question, nor would I ever support it.

[KursedVixen]

BLXKNTRR, on 21 May 2024 - 07:09 PM, said:

Ty

yeah it's under M not Mako mechDB doesn't list heros it list it's in game designation

[Quicksilver Aberration]

BlueDevilspawn, on 03 June 2024 - 09:45 AM, said:

The greatest in a large number of mechs is -10%.

This fact is one of the many reasons I'm still bewildered that even since 2018, there have been no buffs to IS heat sinks and instead we just see practically every IS mech get a 10% heat quirk. The only mech that stands out that makes me second guess that is the Stalker, and I think there are ways to still deal with that (like adjusting the HSL on the 4N or removing the armor quirks and/or lowering the max engine cap on the 7D). The cDHS nerfs were helpful in this regard but definitely were done in an odd way by not being limited to external (past the first 10) only at first.

It's too late now but :shrug:

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 03 June 2024 - 11:20 AM.

[w0qj]

The HSL Quirks for selected Bullshark variants are here as well:
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

[KursedVixen]

Quicksilver Aberration, on 03 June 2024 - 11:17 AM, said:

This fact is one of the many reasons I'm still bewildered that even since 2018, there have been no buffs to IS heat sinks and instead we just see practically every IS mech get a 10% heat quirk. The only mech that stands out that makes me second guess that is the Stalker, and I think there are ways to still deal with that (like adjusting the HSL on the 4N or removing the armor quirks and/or lowering the max engine cap on the 7D). The cDHS nerfs were helpful in this regard but definitely were done in an odd way by not being limited to external (past the first 10) only at first.

It's too late now but :shrug:

and yet clan double heat sinks got a nerf. And now their giving almost every clan mech a 15% heat dissipation

Edited by KursedVixen, 03 June 2024 - 01:13 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

KursedVixen, on 03 June 2024 - 01:12 PM, said:

and yet clan double heat sinks got a nerf. And now their giving almost every clan mech a 15% heat dissipation

They are giving specifically lighter end mechs that rarely are able to mount more DHS outside the first 10 because they decided to nerf all cDHS instead of returning the disparity between external and internal like we had prior to 2018. Either way, your math needs work because apparently 5 is remotely close to 46 somehow in your head (and not even all of those 5 got 15% heat dissipation).

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 03 June 2024 - 01:43 PM.