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[Sinistrum]

Alright this is going to sound really stupid and highly autistic of me (which I am so I can say that) but does anyone recall what the original mechs were when the game was released?

[Samziel]

I think Jenner, Hunchback, Catapult and Atlas. All the founders mechs basically. I dont remember how quickly other mechs were available. Also, not sure about the mechs in official launch vs beta.

Edited by Samziel, 10 August 2024 - 10:22 PM.

[VeeOt Dragon]

same i have no idea, that was before my time. i do know that for a while it was only IS mechs and Clan were added later.

[w0qj]

Here's a list of mech introduction timline up to 2018.
(a fellow player further updated on this list into MS Excel with more mechs, and I've further updated this same Excel sheet up to mid-2023... PM me if interested...)
https://wiki.mwomerc...ch_Release_List

~First, it was the Jenner, Hunchback, Catapult, Atlas. The Founders got these special variants:
JR7-D(F)
HBK-4G(F)
CPLT-C1(F)
AS7-D(F)

~By 2013 when the PC Gamer camo campaign came along, there were these mechs in MWO:
Jenner, Hunchback, Catapult, Atlas, and also
Commando, Centurion, Dragon, and Awesome
(Specifically, I remember literally looking in awe at the Awesome, realizing that it can fire three ERPPC at the same time!)


Source:
https://mwomercs.com...nt/page__st__60

Daeron Katz, on 10 April 2023 - 01:06 PM, said:

OK so here's the deal. The PC Gamer pattern was a limited time offer back from the early days of MWO, and was only made for the 'Mechs that were available at the time, which are the Commando, Jenner, Hunchback, Centurion, Catapult, Dragon, Awesome and Atlas. But, the colors, which was the original goal here, will work on all our 'Mechs.

Edited by w0qj, 10 August 2024 - 11:51 PM.

[Sinistrum]

w0qj, on 10 August 2024 - 10:59 PM, said:

Here's a list of mech introduction timline up to 2018.
(a fellow player further updated on this list into MS Excel with more mechs, and I've further updated this same Excel sheet up to mid-2023... PM me if interested...)
https://wiki.mwomerc...ch_Release_List

~First, it was the Jenner, Hunchback, Catapult, Atlas. The Founders got these special variants:
JR7-D(F)
HBK-4G(F)
CPLT-C1(F)
AS7-D(F)

~By 2013 when the PC Gamer camo campaign came along, there were these mechs in MWO:
Jenner, Hunchback, Catapult, Atlas, and also
Commando, Centurion, Dragon, and Awesome
(Specifically, I remember literally looking in awe at the Awesome, realizing that it can fire three ERPPC at the same time!)


Source:
https://mwomercs.com...nt/page__st__60

Thank you good sir.
I guess I was bashing my head against a rock trying to figure out which mechs were in the game at the time period that I remember playing the most.

So I got bored. I went over that list and checked out the mechs on there, and all but 25 of them came from either collections, packs or what not. The time period I remember playing in the most was right before Phoenix dropped, and I guess for nostalgia purposes I'm trying to figure out which mechs those were from those halcyon days of MWO.

[1453 R]

Yep. First four were the Jennerd, Hunchbutt, Catapunt and Fatlas. For a while there in ye Olden Times, there was a monthly New 'Mech Release that hit with patches. They'd drop a new 'Mech, people could buy it with MC early, and a couple-odd weeks later it dropped for C-Bills as I recall.

Then they experimented with the 'mech pack structure with Project Phoenix, PP sold like hot apple cider at Christmastime, and they never really looked back. the monumental (for MWO) success of both Project Phoenix and the Invasion packs cemented The 'Mech Pack as the preferred method of sale right up until they came out of Maintenance mode during the pandemic, when we got the Booster packs for a while. Those sortakinna worked, and were what we got up until the "Legends" rebrand. That seems to be doing well for them since MWO is seeing more development now than it has in quite a few years.

But the Jennerd, Hunchbutt, Catapunt and Fatlas started it all. Heh, I remember when they updated the art/model for the Catapunt and gave it a second Hero (then almost unheard of save for the weird Fang/Flame Dragon combo), and people sighing about the Jennerd never getting the same treatment. Poor Jennerds.

Edited by 1453 R, 11 August 2024 - 10:55 AM.

[Sinistrum]

1453 R, on 11 August 2024 - 10:55 AM, said:

Yep. First four were the Jennerd, Hunchbutt, Catapunt and Fatlas. For a while there in ye Olden Times, there was a monthly New 'Mech Release that hit with patches. They'd drop a new 'Mech, people could buy it with MC early, and a couple-odd weeks later it dropped for C-Bills as I recall.

Then they experimented with the 'mech pack structure with Project Phoenix, PP sold like hot apple cider at Christmastime, and they never really looked back. the monumental (for MWO) success of both Project Phoenix and the Invasion packs cemented The 'Mech Pack as the preferred method of sale right up until they came out of Maintenance mode during the pandemic, when we got the Booster packs for a while. Those sortakinna worked, and were what we got up until the "Legends" rebrand. That seems to be doing well for them since MWO is seeing more development now than it has in quite a few years.

But the Jennerd, Hunchbutt, Catapunt and Fatlas started it all. Heh, I remember when they updated the art/model for the Catapunt and gave it a second Hero (then almost unheard of save for the weird Fang/Flame Dragon combo), and people sighing about the Jennerd never getting the same treatment. Poor Jennerds.

I was aware that those were the first, and from what I can tell the sort of pre-PP mechs were:

Commando
Jenner
Raven
Spider

Blackjack
Centurion
Cicada
Hunchback
Kintaro
Trebuchet (possibly, I think it came later)
Vindicator (another possibly later mech)

Caraphract
Catapult
Dragon
Jagermech
Orion
Quickdraw

Atlas
Awesome
Banshee (possibly later)
Highlander
Stalker
Victor

I seem to recall that before Phoenix there were 20 mechs, and that there were a few oddballs that were released just sort of on their own after Phoenix (like the King Crab and the Vindicator) with out being a part of a collection.

Does this check out?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Hunchback
Jenner
Commando
Centurion
Dragon
Catapult
Awesome
Atlas
Raven
Cicada
Cataphract
Stalker
Spider
Trebuchet
Jagermech
Highlander
Blackjack
Quickdraw
Victor
Kintaro
Orion

This is the order of mechs according to mech IDs in the game up to the release of the phoenix mechs.

Post Phoenix but before Clans:
Firestarter
Banshee

This just leaves the Vindicator which dropped after Clans released and has the honor of being the last mech released before mech packs became the way PGI released mechs outside of special mechs like the King Crab and Mad Dog which IIRC were tied to mech packs but not directly.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 11 August 2024 - 02:31 PM.

[Shane Carothers]

Sinistrum, on 10 August 2024 - 10:00 PM, said:

Alright this is going to sound really stupid and highly autistic of me (which I am so I can say that) but does anyone recall what the original mechs were when the game was released?

The original Mechs were as follows.

Locust 20T
Stinger 20T
Wasp 20T
Phenoix Hawk 45T
Shadow Hawk 55T
Griffen 55T
Wolverine 55T
Rifleman 60T
Thunderbolt 65T
Crusader 65T
Warhammer 70T
Archer 70T
Mauader 75T
Battlemaster 85T

These were the first Mechs ever. The others in the thread came a few years later after the game got huge in the 80's. I started playing in 1986, I think? In 1988 came the expansion of a ton more. Then a year later came the Clam Invasion. I may be off a bit on the 88 and 89 thing, but not by much though. But the original Mechs were the 14 I listed first, I built them as models back then too. No 100 tons Mechs, no Hunchbabck etc...

Edited by Shane Carothers, 12 August 2024 - 02:28 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Sinistrum, on 10 August 2024 - 10:00 PM, said:

does anyone recall what the original mechs were when the game was released?

Pretty they meant this game, not TT.

[Abaddun]

I remember they used to have these little lore snippets on GalNet prior to the mechs release, which depicted the mech in question usually doing something very cool. I still remember the Highlander one where the pilot blasts "Scotland the Brave" over the radio wave bands before tearing apart a mech column, scoring a highlander burial on the last one.

[PelinalWhitestrake]

We will never see the old models in its prime or even the better Weapon hardpoints ever again, because of a certain dev who didn't like the people rightfully criticizing him for the changes.

The Awesome went from *** pounding design into what we see now, fortunately the wiki still has the original screenshots where the right arm ppc barrel Looked like a PPC barrel
https://mwo.fandom.com/wiki/Awesome
Same goes to the Centurion with its Intimidating Gun Arm
https://mwo.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion
And ofc the original Catapult model, on which the Founders model seems to have lost the OG beak and missile doors
https://mwo.fandom.com/wiki/Catapult

[SolCrusher]

The Centurion had a version, before the Yen-Lo-Wang became the first Hero mech that was release, that was teh first mech to be removed from the game in favor of the YLW.

It was a version of the Centurion that was a mini-atlas. AC20 in the Arm, 2 Med lasers in the center torso, and 3 SRM6s in the left torso. I'm fairly sure this was the CNT-AH. As I ran the AC20 combo on a Cent long before the YLW came out. Wish I had my old screen captures of that mech. I'm fairly sure the AH was nerfed removing the 2 laser hard points from it when it was re-introduced as a loyalty mech.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

SolCrusher, on 15 August 2024 - 08:28 PM, said:

It was a version of the Centurion that was a mini-atlas. AC20 in the Arm, 2 Med lasers in the center torso, and 3 SRM6s in the left torso. I'm fairly sure this was the CNT-AH. As I ran the AC20 combo on a Cent long before the YLW came out. Wish I had my old screen captures of that mech. I'm fairly sure the AH was nerfed removing the 2 laser hard points from it when it was re-introduced as a loyalty mech.

The AH was the one that was removed from the game but brought back as a loyalty variant. The hardpoints were unchanged though, it never had lasers in the CT, it was purely ammo based weapons only.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 15 August 2024 - 08:41 PM.

[SolCrusher]

Quicksilver Aberration, on 15 August 2024 - 08:41 PM, said:

The AH was the one that was removed from the game but brought back as a loyalty variant. The hardpoints were unchanged though, it never had lasers in the CT, it was purely ammo based weapons only.

Not even during closed beta? I'm probably just misremembering. I know it was during the time when engines were not capped and all engines had 10 heat sinks.