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#161 martian

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Posted 31 December 2024 - 10:41 AM

View PostDoucheNugg3t, on 31 December 2024 - 10:23 AM, said:

I have been having a ton of fun, sure there is a few funky matches but overall a lot of us have a blast even with those dirty hippies last night ha ha

I am happy to hear that.

#162 RockmachinE

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Posted 31 December 2024 - 12:28 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 31 December 2024 - 09:47 AM, said:

mean while the game hovers around 1000 players


Lots of people don't use steam, but the stand alone client, me included. The game has no way to go but down, its ancient, its a miracle its still going for some reason.

#163 Void Angel

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Posted 31 December 2024 - 02:41 PM

The Cauldron has changed a lot, for the better - I had stopped playing before they started up, and when I came back to try the game again, the difference in build variety and tactical options was strongly noticeable. Plus, Steam Charts only measures Steam data. Everyone who was using the standalone client didn't just automatically roll over to Steam's storefront at the Steam release, you know... This game is still going because it has a good core gameplay, despite its issues - but don't let me distract Dave from putting up more lazy arguments without any substance!

#164 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 31 December 2024 - 09:40 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 31 December 2024 - 09:47 AM, said:

your savior the Caldron has not changed anything

Talk about putting words in people's mouths. I don't think anyone here believes that MWO (including the cauldron themselves) is suddenly going to make a comeback, that said they have likely stemmed the bleeding by just providing change without rocking the boat too much in what was a stagnant game, for better or worse.

And too be clear, I don't like quite a few of the cauldron's changes (or lack thereof) so don't even try and lump me in with the crowd that likes "yes man" the cauldron and those within it.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 31 December 2024 - 09:41 PM.


#165 pald84

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 05:03 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 20 December 2024 - 02:30 AM, said:

No, it doesn't work this way. I don't need Shadowhawks, Shadow Cats, Shadow anything. If I want to play Bullshark - I buy Bullshark and play it. If Assaults are gimped in this game - then, well, it's just about devs shotting at their own leg.


Man, the bulkshark is meta .. 😂 it's probably one of the best assault if the game

#166 Void Angel

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 05:07 AM

Don't bring reality into this; you'll only confuse him - his Vitamin W is really low.

#167 Saved By The Bell

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 09:36 AM

Game is unplayable I ll take a vacation.

#168 pattonesque

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 11:17 AM

hey guys, glad I found this thread. I think some of the folks in here could really help me with a problem I have

so I'm trying out for a local club baseball team and I have several issues.

1. many players hold their bats by the handle and hit the ball with the barrel. this is "meta" to me and very unfun. I prefer to hold the bat by the barrel and hit the ball with the handle. But so far this hasn't resulted in many successful hits and my batting average is .035. This is probably because the baseball devs are idiots.

2. sometimes I go up against a really good pitcher who can strike everyone else out in three pitches and is a tryhard metaslave (he actually puts some torque into his pitches and sometimes they move in unexpected ways. what the heck!?). When this happens I don't even bother trying to hit. what's the point? why am I being punished for not trying when there is clearly no way on earth I can win? The baseball devs should make this easier and force the pitcher to wear weights on his arms or something.

3. On defense, I like playing catcher. But many small, fast baserunners steal bases on me all the time! Now, my arm is weak and I can only throw about 40 miles per hour. I'm also not very accurate, so only about 10 percent of my throws actually arrive at second base. And I actually don't like setting up right behind the batter (again, this is *meta* and limits my creativity) so instead I crouch about 20 feet behind home plate. I'm not willing to change any of this and you're a bad person for suggesting ways I could improve, so could the baseball devs nerf baserunning?

The result here is that my team rarely wins, and the coach has suggested I play in a remedial league. Why am I being expected to carry all of these other horrible players? I just want to have fun.

Anyway I figure this thread is a good place to get some advice on this. Bear in mind I will be extremely hostile to you if you don't tell me what I want to hear. Thanks in advance.

Edited by pattonesque, 01 January 2025 - 11:18 AM.


#169 pbiggz

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 08:40 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 31 December 2024 - 09:47 AM, said:

go ahead attack me all you want but you still won't have a clue


You seem to be labouring under the delusion that anytime someone offers constructive criticism it is tantamount to elitism/gatekeeping and is no different than being personally oppressed by the Cauldron.

The difference between you and OP, and the rest of us, is that when we lose, we think about what went wrong and how to change so that we might do better in the next match. When you lose, you make a post about how evil cauldron developers are nerfing you personally, and anyone who plays according to the meta is an evil exploiter.

Which position do you think is the legitimate one here? Do you think demanding that developers nerf your opponents and buff you personally so you can always win is remotely a reasonable thing to ask for? Yes or no?

View PostDavegt27, on 31 December 2024 - 09:47 AM, said:

mean while the game hovers around 1000 players


The fact that its still at 1000 players and its been what? 5 years? That's remarkable stability. Especially after the game essentially crashed out to near-zero numbers. Games like this dont come back from the dead. The fact that MWO did is a sign, at least in part, of the game being responsibly managed; a thing you don't seem to know anything about.

View PostDavegt27, on 31 December 2024 - 09:47 AM, said:

your savior the Caldron has not changed anything


Who said the cauldron are my saviours? I have been vocally critical of their decisions in the past, I am also vocally supportive of their decisions when they are positive, and generally, they are. Can you explain to us what it is about the cauldron you dislike so much? Or are you content to make them whatever amorphous villain is convenient for you at any given moment?

#170 foamyesque

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 09:39 PM

View Postmartian, on 24 December 2024 - 04:55 AM, said:

And thanks for giving me a good laugh with this: "Playing LRM boat is similar to playing Light 'Mech."


They're more similar than you might think, if you're not dropping with a NARC buddy.

#171 epikt

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 09:55 PM

LRM boat or light mech? Why not both?

#172 RockmachinE

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Posted 02 January 2025 - 05:08 AM

View Postepikt, on 01 January 2025 - 09:55 PM, said:

LRM boat or light mech? Why not both?


Just saw one in the wild recently!

#173 Manboobs-sama

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Posted 02 January 2025 - 06:37 AM

View PostSneaky Snek, on 16 December 2024 - 02:09 PM, said:



You are aware you can put a light engine on IS mechs to have the same benefit of clan XL engines right? (Death on losing both torsos instead of just 1)

Looking at your stats, you obviously belong in tier 4 so I think matchmaking is doing its job in this case.
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Based! I find bullying and ridicule to be the best way to teach lessers their place! Have an updoot!

#174 pattonesque

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Posted 02 January 2025 - 07:23 AM

View PostManboobs-sama, on 02 January 2025 - 06:37 AM, said:


Based! I find bullying and ridicule to be the best way to teach lessers their place! Have an updoot!


generally more experienced players in this game are considerate when giving advice or the like. the difference here is that OP has made some variant of this thread, in which he is actively hostile to any kind of suggestion that *maybe* the way he plays the game is the reason why he can't quite manage a 1.0 W/LR, for like a full decade. So folks have moved on from being helpful to ridiculing.

#175 Void Angel

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Posted 02 January 2025 - 07:52 AM

I'm not even bothering with ridicule - I'm straight up just fighting his disinformation at this point.

#176 martian

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Posted 03 January 2025 - 09:42 AM

View Postfoamyesque, on 01 January 2025 - 09:39 PM, said:

They're more similar than you might think, if you're not dropping with a NARC buddy.
When MrMadguy is talking about light 'Mechs, he does not mean tiny LRM-boats, but 'Mechs such as for example Piranha.

#177 foamyesque

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Posted 03 January 2025 - 10:26 AM

View Postmartian, on 03 January 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

When MrMadguy is talking about light 'Mechs, he does not mean tiny LRM-boats, but 'Mechs such as for example Piranha.


I am aware. What I mean is that a solo-drop LRM machine needs to be cautious in its exposures, primarily shoot mechs already engaged by someone else, and are extremely vulnerable to high-DPS/high alpha short-range fire, but can be extremely effective if it gets the fights it wants -- and while you can say these are all true of any machine, IME they are particularly true of lights and LRM boats, and the similarity is the closest with lights intended to fight at long ranges, like your ERLL ACHs for example.





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