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[Void Angel]

Quicksilver Aberration, on 11 April 2025 - 07:00 AM, said:

So far you haven't shown any proof or what you think the matchmaker should even look like, go troll elsewhere. Also who's this we you speak of?

They're always "we." I think it's a combination of thinking themselves the Voice of the People, and delusions of being Napoleon.

[pattonesque]

maybe instead of complaining about matchmaker some of you should Make your mechs Match builds which aren't dogwater

edit: wait I got another one. maybe instead of complaining about groups you should Group fire your weapons instead of chainfiring them so you spread damage everywhere

Edited by pattonesque, 11 April 2025 - 12:05 PM.

[Jutneux]

T Hawk, on 11 April 2025 - 06:23 AM, said:

Proof of what I said. Every single sentence.

They really don't understand how out of touch they are. Old guard tend to get like this when they've been playing too long to have an outsider's perspective. It's rarely any use talking with them unless you like talking to aggressive walls that insist you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why their little kingdom works the way it does and how it cannot possibly be flawed.

Also, don't forget they're usually the ones benefitting from farming newer players. They're less likely to get absolutely trounced for 7 matches in a row and end up feeling like they've wasted hours playing matchmakingwarrior online.

Just look at pattonesque above. You have a perfectly valid issue and that player has immediately resorted to calling you too dumb to use group fire. Aggressive, toxic, entrenched players. The cherry on top is that this insult was edited in after the fact, as if pattonesque needed the ego boost of adding an extra insult to the post, like someone hurling insults in a bad comedy.

T Hawk, on 11 April 2025 - 05:24 AM, said:

The matchmaking has been trash for over 10 years, since we first mentioned it on the boards. The whole story of this game is that the devs - or maybe it was more the management - thought they knew better. Now here we are. I mean this game lasted quite a long time, but I would assume this is because the Mechwarrior community is very forgiving and exceptionally passionate about their franchise.

Valid criticism was ignored for years and dismissed as hate.

Void Angel, on 11 April 2025 - 07:15 AM, said:

They're always "we." I think it's a combination of thinking themselves the Voice of the People, and delusions of being Napoleon.

Apparently someone is having issues with the 'we' in this, so I'll help them out. The first we is anyone who has ever thought the matchmaker was poo. Spoilers: this game is down to a barebones number of players. A plurality has already left. See how it's all down to perspective? Main character syndrome.

The second we is every remaining player - we're all playing with this crummy matchmaker.

Edited by Jutneux, 11 April 2025 - 10:38 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Apparently someone is having issues with the 'we' in this, so I'll help them out. The first we is anyone who has ever thought the matchmaker was poo. Spoilers: this game is down to a barebones number of players. A plurality has already left. See how it's all down to perspective? Main character syndrome.

The second we is every remaining player - we're all playing with this crummy matchmaker.

The only one with main character syndrome is the one pretending to voice "everyone" else's concerns. The irony is that the old guard comment cuts both ways given they made it clear they've been complaining about the matchmaker over 10 years (which definitely makes you old guard) so you're already employing some faulty logic to make it sound like it's you against the "elite".

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Also, don't forget they're usually the ones benefitting from farming newer players. They're less likely to get absolutely trounced for 7 matches in a row and end up feeling like they've wasted hours playing matchmakingwarrior online.

Huh? You seem to think that the matchmaker is constantly putting you against the best of the best, which it's not because there aren't even that many left to put against you . The population shrinking ensured that, used to be back in 2016 during prime time NA times you could easily get a lobby of just tier 1 players. These days you're lucky if that many tier 1s are even on and queued at the same time.

No one here has made claims that they enjoy seal clubbing or want that. In fact I wish it was like the old 2016 days so I wouldn't have such a frustrating experience watch myself do triple the damage of 4 guys who were so scared to get their paint scratched they just sat behind a rock the entire match and got a few shots off before they died.

Keeping in mind no matchmaker actually makes seal clubbing more prevalent. Just look at faction play and event queue for examples.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 11 April 2025 - 10:42 PM.

[Jutneux]

Thank for for once again proving our points.

[Void Angel]

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

A bunch of self-serving horse crap

You haven't proven anything, which is why your first recourse is to claim that you represent the poor, downtrodden masses. Well, no, I'm sorry, that wasn't right - your first resort was to poison the well with a genetic fallacy against anyone who disagrees with you. "Huur, they're out of touch because they're the 'old guard' and can't see "our" fresh young perspective!" Your account was created in 2013! You're just as "old guard" as the rest of us, but it doesn't matter because your arguments are up for debate here, not your tenure.

And your arguments are trash. Riddled with amateur sophistry and begging every question, you're telling a self-aggrandizing story based on no evidence aside from your own bad-faith claims. Supporting fantasy with dishonesty - and hand-waving away all the detailed reasoning you've been given with "they're the ones benefiting from smashing newbs," while ignoring any and all advice about builds and tactics because you want the matchmaker to be the problem with your in-match performance.

You have to make points in order for people to prove them. All you've made is false claims backed up by your own dishonesty. Heck, with these three posts being your only forum activity ever, it's pretty obvious that you're here at the behest of a personal acquaintance - if not an outright alt.

[pbiggz]

T Hawk, on 11 April 2025 - 06:23 AM, said:

Proof of what I said. Every single sentence.

No that's not how words work.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

They really don't understand how out of touch they are.

Dont act like you get to decide who's out of touch.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Everyone who has played the game longer than me is a liar and a cheater.

FTFY

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Also, don't forget they're usually the ones benefitting from farming newer players. They're less likely to get absolutely trounced for 7 matches in a row and end up feeling like they've wasted hours playing matchmakingwarrior online.

You aren't getting farmed. That's not happening. You can say it is as much as you like, but losing isn't getting farmed. You are not entitled to wins.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

I am a crybaby.

Don't expect politeness and pomp when you are pushing lies. You got called and now you're mad. If you don't want to get called, consider not lying.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Apparently someone is having issues with the 'we' in this, so I'll help them out. The first we is anyone who has ever thought the matchmaker was poo.

Nobody cares about your victim complex

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

Spoilers: this game is down to a barebones number of players. A plurality has already left.

That's not how statistics works.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:01 PM, said:

See how it's all down to perspective? Main character syndrome.

The second we is every remaining player - we're all playing with this crummy matchmaker.

Hello main character.

Jutneux, on 11 April 2025 - 10:44 PM, said:

Thank for for once again proving our points.

If you remotely think anyone has proven you right, I worry for your capacity to read and comprehend language.


None of what you two have said here is anything new. Its the same tired old tropes marched out again and again by a vocal subgroup of players who think that any time they lose its because the game is broken/evil players are preying on them/anything they can possible pull out of their asses to assert that they are righteous and losing is everyone else's fault.

Look in the mirror. There you will find the reason you lost your last game.