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[BeCause]

nanashi0110, on 16 May 2025 - 09:57 PM, said:

Is it a terrible LEGEND?
IS AC20 is a single shot, so it's easy to pass damage through, and you can load up on SLs to serve as backup.
I don't think it's bad.


No, to be honest, I wouldn't mind buying it on a 50% sale. It's only appealing to the extent that I can think of.
I think Quirk is really not that good... .BOLT-ON is also only one AC20 cover and overall this DLC is a bad value....

It is objectively bad. The strength of the Shadowcat is it's speed, stealth, and mobility. With all three nerfed, and a ton of weight taken up by a weapon that is absolutely worse than any of the normal Shadowcat loadouts, and no quirks to make it worthwhile.

[T Hawk]

I don't understand the logic behind the Uziel changes. I like the changes to the Victor, though, so these gonna be fun to build with.

[nanashi0110]

BeCause, on 16 May 2025 - 10:26 PM, said:

It is objectively bad. The strength of the Shadowcat is it's speed, stealth, and mobility. With all three nerfed, and a ton of weight taken up by a weapon that is absolutely worse than any of the normal Shadowcat loadouts, and no quirks to make it worthwhile.

Agreed.
I am very excited about being able to use IS AC20 in clan, but I can only equip one.
I doubt it is a LEGEND to have no direct assistance at all...
It's not even as good as the Hunchback IIC, is it?
Also, the fixed armament makes its function as a mirror feel incomplete.
If only one mirror can be equipped, RAC5 or LXPL would have been much better... I think....

[Manboobs-sama]

Can we add the Dire Wolf Black Widow in the game just as a second Hero variant? It's obviously not worth wasting a Legend on, and it honestly doesn't add a whole lot in terms of interesting omnipod configurations, but it'd still be neat to have a little more flexibility nonetheless. Could also make it more interesting with quirks and stuff.

Just an idea I've been thinking about.

[vader1369]

Why nerf all annihilator?
especially the ANH-1E, which was built on a snub PPC.This is a very unique build that rarely plays well, only in close combat. It's such a rare build that I've hardly seen it. And making a sniper out of it is pointless - the arms are too low.

[LavaDa1shi]

BeCause, on 16 May 2025 - 10:26 PM, said:

It is objectively bad. The strength of the Shadowcat is it's speed, stealth, and mobility. With all three nerfed, and a ton of weight taken up by a weapon that is absolutely worse than any of the normal Shadowcat loadouts, and no quirks to make it worthwhile.

What? It's losing 2jjs(and still has 4 which is plenty) and 7.2kph.

Also IS ac20 is a very strong weapon.

Edited by LavaDa1shi, 17 May 2025 - 04:35 AM.

[LavaDa1shi]

vader1369, on 17 May 2025 - 04:16 AM, said:

Why nerf all annihilator?
especially the ANH-1E, which was built on a snub PPC.This is a very unique build that rarely plays well, only in close combat. It's such a rare build that I've hardly seen it. And making a sniper out of it is pointless - the arms are too low.

My understanding from the cauldron feedback discord is that it was meant to be a buff while changing the role to a tanky gunboat but they under did it.

I can't speak for them but iirc I believe they are already planning to buff it in some way, probably by giving it back it's firepower while keeping it's current armour.

They could also just give it even more armour which I think would be interesting, or they could take away it's armour and just give it a bunch more firepower.


I personally hope they don't do that last option as I believe it would be the most boring option since almost if not all of the long/mid range gun boat assaults are glass cannons.

Edited by LavaDa1shi, 17 May 2025 - 04:45 AM.

[Ttly]

You know, +30% total C-ERPPC velocity quirks on the ADR-Prime isn't really that much when LBK-PRIME has even more velocity, better heat, hitpoints, and is one of the most agile (though not as truly agile as a 35t sure) heavy-medium with the same top speed that creeps it already.
Really, I'd much prefer a heat buff as well too.

Also I said it somewhere else already, the Noble is just looking up to be the SNPPC MASC Vulcan but with cXL, IS-AC20 and C-ERSLs (or a plasma cannon) instead. Hardly a new playstyle.

And the IS Marauder buffs are nice sure, but maybe it could stand to lose some durability quirks? It's already one of the most durable IS heavy with its good hitbox+hitpoint count and as usual, I'm not really a fan of +HSL quirks.
Oh and the Victor buffs are kind of nuts on some of them you ask me, but hey I guess that's one way to differ it from the Highlander.

The ballistic Firestarter buffs is a weird one too, but whatever I guess. Might see some silly AC5 Firestarter I guess. And the Black Lanner rework really left the Ice Ferret in its dust even more even with the MASC nerfs.

Edited by Ttly, 17 May 2025 - 06:05 AM.

[Shineplasma]

BeCause, on 16 May 2025 - 10:26 PM, said:

It is objectively bad. The strength of the Shadowcat is it's speed, stealth, and mobility. With all three nerfed, and a ton of weight taken up by a weapon that is absolutely worse than any of the normal Shadowcat loadouts, and no quirks to make it worthwhile.

Looks like a good mech to me. Good pinpoint and sustain on a mobile poptart with great mounts?

Also, finally a shadowcat that will force bad pilots to play like a chad instead of running away for 15 minutes at the end of the match, missing all their ppc shots and failing to clutch.

Sign me up.

Edited by Shineplasma, 17 May 2025 - 09:04 AM.

[epikt]

Shineplasma, on 17 May 2025 - 06:31 AM, said:

Looks like a good mech to me. Good pinpoint and sustain on a mobile poptart with great mounts?

Also, finally a shadowcat that will force bad pilots to play like a chad instead of running away for 15 minutes at the end of the match, missing wll their ppc shots and failing to clutch.

Sign me up.

As a ShadowCat pilot who don't hide under ECM and kite forever when it's 11v0: I can't agree more, this new legend looks awesome.
Since it was posted on the Cauldron discord I'm counting the days for its release and I'll probably play it a lot.

[a 5 year old with an Uzi]

Initial thoughts: "Not many quirks on the Shadowcat."

Then I remembered it's a Shadowcat and now it's a Shadowcat with a big boom.

ERSLs wiill definitely have a bigger alpha, I am inclined to think plasma will be a better pairing but could be wrong.

Edited by a 5 year old with an Uzi, 17 May 2025 - 08:06 AM.

[Lance Commander]

Lmao you guys should have called the new shadow cat the "BOOM STICK". Going to get it just for the ac 20 superiority.

[Shineplasma]

Lance Commander, on 17 May 2025 - 09:25 AM, said:

Lmao you guys should have called the new shadow cat the "BOOM STICK". Going to get it just for the ac 20 superiority.

Basedbasedbasedbasedbased

[Rhaelcan]

Hawk819, on 16 May 2025 - 07:40 PM, said:

Clan Galaxy skins? It's about damn time, PGI. We've been asking for these ever since the Clans got released. Now can we possibly get the rest of the Clans. Like Smoke Jaguar Galaxies, Clan Nova Cat Galaxies. Hell, give us the Hell's Horses. We also love new decals from the Clans Sub-units like the 11th Mechanized Cavalry, the Blackhorse Cluster. Although, this is a nice move. Love it. Just keep it coming.

Stuff like this takes weeks to do. So much mechs to paint. They also have clans to work with. Let them work on skins whenever they want. Be happy we at least got some!

Serasphiel, on 16 May 2025 - 07:04 PM, said:

The hatred for assault mechs is just laughable. Clan Galaxies paint jobs look like AI did them.

You try making paint jobs on an old engine with spaghetti code man. People like you are never happy.

Manboobs-sama, on 17 May 2025 - 02:34 AM, said:

Can we add the Dire Wolf Black Widow in the game just as a second Hero variant? It's obviously not worth wasting a Legend on, and it honestly doesn't add a whole lot in terms of interesting omnipod configurations, but it'd still be neat to have a little more flexibility nonetheless. Could also make it more interesting with quirks and stuff.

Just an idea I've been thinking about.

I think they've said no to this quite a bit.

Shineplasma, on 17 May 2025 - 06:31 AM, said:

Looks like a good mech to me. Good pinpoint and sustain on a mobile poptart with great mounts?

Also, finally a shadowcat that will force bad pilots to play like a chad instead of running away for 15 minutes at the end of the match, missing all their ppc shots and failing to clutch.

Sign me up.

Hella based

[BlueDevilspawn]

The ballistic firestarter buffs are meant for those who want to cosplay a Hollander.

Ttly, on 17 May 2025 - 05:32 AM, said:

You know, +30% total C-ERPPC velocity quirks on the ADR-Prime isn't really that much when LBK-PRIME has even more velocity, better heat, hitpoints, and is one of the most agile (though not as truly agile as a 35t sure) heavy-medium with the same top speed that creeps it already.
Really, I'd much prefer a heat buff as well too.

Also I said it somewhere else already, the Noble is just looking up to be the SNPPC MASC Vulcan but with cXL, IS-AC20 and C-ERSLs (or a plasma cannon) instead. Hardly a new playstyle.

And the IS Marauder buffs are nice sure, but maybe it could stand to lose some durability quirks? It's already one of the most durable IS heavy with its good hitbox+hitpoint count and as usual, I'm not really a fan of +HSL quirks.
Oh and the Victor buffs are kind of nuts on some of them you ask me, but hey I guess that's one way to differ it from the Highlander.

The ballistic Firestarter buffs is a weird one too, but whatever I guess. Might see some silly AC5 Firestarter I guess. And the Black Lanner rework really left the Ice Ferret in its dust even more even with the MASC nerfs.

[Pondafarr]

I don't understand nerfing the Kaiju, you rarely see it now that the Argent is out, so is it really so overpowered that it must be hit with a nerfbat?

[BlueDevilspawn]

1. Most of it is quirk cleanup
2. It's mainly a buff. Some time ago IS ERPPC were given a velo boost which in the Kaiju's case caused a desync with LGR/GR velo. As the meta build is 3 ERPPC and 2 LGR, removing the velo quirk better syncs the LGR and ERPPC and helps them hit the same component for better pinpoint.

Pondafarr, on 17 May 2025 - 05:44 PM, said:

I don't understand nerfing the Kaiju, you rarely see it now that the Argent is out, so is it really so overpowered that it must be hit with a nerfbat?

[Lord of Death]

Is the Mad-4L buffed also? Why remove the ballistic cooldown to mismatch its firing timing with the erPPCs? That's going to feel really bad now.

[Samziel]

vader1369, on 17 May 2025 - 04:16 AM, said:

Why nerf all annihilator?
especially the ANH-1E, which was built on a snub PPC.This is a very unique build that rarely plays well, only in close combat. It's such a rare build that I've hardly seen it. And making a sniper out of it is pointless - the arms are too low.

How is it being made a sniper? Losing velocity makes it worse for that role. Gaining armor makes it better for brawling.

Ttly, on 17 May 2025 - 05:32 AM, said:

You know, +30% total C-ERPPC velocity quirks on the ADR-Prime isn't really that much when LBK-PRIME has even more velocity, better heat, hitpoints, and is one of the most agile (though not as truly agile as a 35t sure) heavy-medium with the same top speed that creeps it already.
Really, I'd much prefer a heat buff as well too.

I dont understand the comparison of mechs 30t apart. Youre saying that like Linebacker is a substitute to Adder or something.

Sigma change is welcome, though would have liked a small jj boost to SO8.

Edited by Samziel, 18 May 2025 - 03:47 AM.

[Gasboy]

hubingkun, on 16 May 2025 - 05:32 PM, said:

If it hadn't arrived a month later, it would have been better. Many players have been lost this month, and I hope the game can still persist

Can you show your proof for this?

Steam DB and Jarl's List show only a slow decline, which is suffered by pretty much every single live service game.

Any dips in weekly/monthly/seasonal numbers can be explained by other factors such as end of year exams (for highschoolers and university kids) or gearing up for seasonal work or military deployments.

I'd like to see your evidence for a dip of 250 players leaving MWO forever because a patch was delayed by a few weeks.

Or is this just the tired, old DAED GMAE! argument?