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[Mayhem Lewis]

ECM on the GTL-10B but no stealth armor, bad call. You can't even switch up the armor for it with the locked in light ferro, which is a waste of slots for such small weight drop.

Bummer, this could have been awesome.


On the bright side I see the Black Lanner's full body armor buff was dialed back a bit to 14, but otherwise continued which validates that they were intentional and not a mistaken implementation like some boneheads tried to infer. Looking at you sucking heaven.

[Ttly]

LavaDa1shi, on 18 June 2025 - 09:23 PM, said:

The 1p is best built as high mount energy boating. So the strongest 1p builds are 2blc 3lpl or 4blc 2erml, with standard engine and mass single heat sinks, you can also do stuff like 4erppc or 4hppc which aren't as strong but still good. It's all high mounted so it does not need extra armour, but it does need the heat.

What a way to drive home the point of "we don't want people to bother using the ballistics hardpoints" with pretty much removing the arm armor quirks.

[Voice of Kerensky]

It's a pity that once again there is not a single word about the balance of the teams.
And no one wants to bring back to life the buried and forgotten streaks.

P.S. I still can't enter the game. I hope that the upcoming patch will fix the problem...

[Rosarius]

Ttly, on 19 June 2025 - 12:31 AM, said:

What a way to drive home the point of "we don't want people to bother using the ballistics hardpoints" with pretty much removing the arm armor quirks.

You could give those arms +100 armour each and the best builds would still be lasvom

[Ttly]

Rosarius, on 19 June 2025 - 03:16 AM, said:

You could give those arms +100 armour each and the best builds would still be lasvom

That's the point.
If that were the case, then it could've just as well been left alone anyway.

[shadow cat]

I only complainf about increasing the temperature in Cruccible , it was a good map with lot of hicking , It wan't popular and now it will be less polular.

I suggest to do the same as other maps, put the spawn points closer and reduce the temperature. and cut a bit the map.

• Increased Terra Therma Crucible temperature from 20C to 76C

[TELEFORCE]

Mayhem Lewis, on 18 June 2025 - 11:39 PM, said:

ECM on the GTL-10B but no stealth armor, bad call. You can't even switch up the armor for it with the locked in light ferro, which is a waste of slots for such small weight drop.

Bummer, this could have been awesome.

This is literally how the Gauntlet is designed in Technical Readout 3145. Here's the BattleTechWiki link: https://www.sarna.ne...ntlet_(OmniMech)

It's just the way all omnimechs are in the game and PGI has stuck with it.

Spheroid, on 18 June 2025 - 05:59 PM, said:

These are the correct rules for omnimech construction. The Gauntlet per official specs only has ten default heatsinks. On omnimechs additional heatsinks can only be added via external pods and thus not in the engine. For the same reason the 12 DHS and jumpjets cannot be modified on the Night Gyr, they are fixed equipment.

This. The Stormcrow is another one that has ten fixed heat sinks even though it has a big enough engine to house more. But for the design it just works and barely anyone has complained about it.

[Duncan MacDougl]

Really wish you could expand the load outs to see what they actually are.

[WARRIOR PSIX]

It's a pity that of all the changes I suggested in the SHC-NO branch, only heat jump jets was fixed.

Edited by WARRIOR PSIX, 19 June 2025 - 07:12 AM.

[Tarriss Halcyon]

I'm honestly more surprised that the Gauntlet was chosen here, considering the adjustments needed for the GLT-1OA and GLT-1OC. Sure, TSEMP would be about as healthy for the game as tripping was back in closed beta, and LRM-10s are basically MML-7s that can't swap to SRMs for close-quarters.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not angry at the choice, just scratching my head when the Blackjack Omni, Centurion Omni and Firestarter Omni are all right there. But hey, it's another step towards us getting a Rakshasa pack.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Ttly, on 19 June 2025 - 03:54 AM, said:

That's the point.
If that were the case, then it could've just as well been left alone anyway.

Laser vomit builds needed the 10% heat to be competitive as it was seen as a nerf that it originally traded heat for middling armor buffs, and it is likely the belief that it couldn't have both the buffed armor and heat quirk so one had to go.

Regardless, whining about it like the armor somehow made the ballistic hardpoint useful is a choice, just not a very good one.

Mayhem Lewis, on 18 June 2025 - 11:39 PM, said:

ECM on the GTL-10B but no stealth armor, bad call. You can't even switch up the armor for it with the locked in light ferro, which is a waste of slots for such small weight drop.

Stealth armor is a bad call on basically anything not locust sized, a waste of space for anyone but spuds.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 19 June 2025 - 08:15 AM.

[TercieI]

Do we know cost on the Omniwhacker?

[Manboobs-sama]

TercieI, on 19 June 2025 - 09:21 AM, said:

Do we know cost on the Omniwhacker?

All booster packs like this have all been 20 dollars in the past. No reason to think these will be any different.

[martian]

TercieI, on 19 June 2025 - 09:21 AM, said:

Do we know cost on the Omniwhacker?

We do not know. The Grand Summoner Mechpack with its four variants costs $20.

[shockdiode]

Duncan MacDougl, on 19 June 2025 - 05:40 AM, said:

Really wish you could expand the load outs to see what they actually are.

Right click on image->"open image in new tab" on chrome. If you're using another browser it has something equivalent.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Ttly, on 19 June 2025 - 03:54 AM, said:

That's the point.
If that were the case, then it could've just as well been left alone anyway.

Not really no. There’s the concept of “free tonnage” where if the armor quirks are strong enough, meta builds will strip all the armor for free weight and put that into more SHS (in this case), engine, armor elsewhere.

[LordNothing]

KursedVixen, on 18 June 2025 - 09:48 PM, said:

or make Atms work within 60 meters at reduced damage say 1 or a little more damage per missile within 60 meters then ramp up from there?

or make IAtms which work within 60 meters? I dunno. maybe make IAtms work like the plasma cannon that increase the targets heat?? there's also the mag pulse warheads that maybe could function like a localized ecm or just cancel ecm? in addition to normal ATm damage brackets

according to sarna the thing that makes iatms different is they use streak guidence (and also have ammo types we cant use). this would i believe remove its min range (which is also a feature). though im not sure that plugs any holes. i feel like atms are pretty good, but not tbolt good. changing their guidance wont do that (and will probibly make it worse). i think were better off with a buff at their min-midrange would make it more tbolt-esque. a new weapon system seems overkill in this case.

i think where clans are weak are in dumbfire missiles. though something like an arrow iv would be interesting. not sure what something like streak lrms bring to the table. but those are guided systems. the fact is that battletech lore doesnt give us any good option to plug the clan dumbifire hole. so something apocryphal might be needed.

the mml wouldnt have a minimal range because its a combined srm+lrm in the same launcher. it doesnt give you any more damage like the atms do, just an srm bracket and an lrm bracket on its damage profile. it wont srm better than srms and it wont lerm better than lerms, but it might streak better than streaks so you need to be careful not to step on its toes.

Edited by LordNothing, 19 June 2025 - 12:15 PM.

[Mayhem Lewis]

Quicksilver Aberration, on 19 June 2025 - 08:12 AM, said:

Stealth armor is a bad call on basically anything not locust sized, a waste of space for anyone but spuds.

Maybe that's the case in the Rarefied air of Tier one mate, but for the rest of us at tier 3 or below, its just fine and has more than a few excellent applications.

I know its hard to grasp that what the mid-to-low tiers think and like matters just as much as tier one pilots like yourself. Dirty potatoes that you love to talk down to and sneer at, but mate its 80% of the population. We are the majority of the fellas buying mechs, MC, premium time, even Cbills in some cases that you top-end Gents don't have to anymore either because you have such a huge stockpile from all the winning, the comps, or just being given mechs because you are Cauldron members. So save a little thought and a thank you for all us dirty little potatoes, mechdads, noobs, and farm animals for funding the servers, electricity and dev time that makes your super duper elite on elite lives possible eh?

See I can't possibly see how every loadout, mech, tactic, etc... that kicks *** or is the de rigueur at tier one works or why because I don't play there, totally different game. Just as the matchmaker makes it so you can't visit our dirty little matches very often unless its on a seal clubbing account, and see what does and doesn't fly. Honestly I feel a bit bad for you fellas stuck in Meta-hell where you are expected to run X, Y and Z or get crap from your team and unit. Who knows? maybe there are some great applications for Stealth armor on bigger stuff in Tier one matches that will never be known because everyone has already decided what is good and what is potatoe.

God speed son, we will be thinking of you while we have wacky, insane, unpredictable, unique and above all friggen FUN matches where you can't be sure what everyone is going to drop or what's gonna happen.

Edited by Mayhem Lewis, 19 June 2025 - 12:16 PM.

[LordNothing]

Voice of Kerensky, on 19 June 2025 - 12:44 AM, said:

It's a pity that once again there is not a single word about the balance of the teams.
And no one wants to bring back to life the buried and forgotten streaks.

P.S. I still can't enter the game. I hope that the upcoming patch will fix the problem...

you think streaks have it bad. make rocket launchers great useful again for once.

[LordNothing]

Mayhem Lewis, on 19 June 2025 - 12:15 PM, said:

Maybe that's the case in the Rarefied air of Tier one mate, but for the rest of us at tier 3 or below, its just fine and has more than a few excellent applications.

I know its hard to grasp that what the mid-to-low tiers think and like matters just as much as tier one pilots like yourself. Dirty potatoes that you love to talk down to and sneer at, but mate its 80% of the population. We are the majority of the fellas buying mechs, MC, premium time, even Cbills in some cases that you top-end Gents don't have to anymore either because you have such a huge stockpile from all the winning, the comps, or just being given mechs because you are Cauldron members. So save a little thought and a thank you for all us dirty little potatoes, mechdads, noobs, and farm animals for funding the servers, electricity and dev time that makes your super duper elite on elite lives possible eh?

See I can't possibly see how every loadout, mech, tactic, etc... that kicks *** or is the de rigueur at tier one works or why because I don't play there, totally different game. Just as the matchmaker makes it so you can't visit our dirty little matches very often unless its on a seal clubbing account, and see what does and doesn't fly. Honestly I feel a bit bad for you fellas stuck in Meta-hell where you are expected to run X, Y and Z or get crap from your team and unit. Who knows? maybe there are some great applications for Stealth armor on bigger stuff in Tier one matches that will never be known because everyone has already decided what is good and what is potatoe.

God speed son, we will be thinking of you while we have wacky, insane, unpredictable, unique and above all friggen FUN matches where you can't be sure what everyone is going to drop or what's gonna happen.

you know i think you have room for a compatible omnibush legend. stealth, xl, ballistic hardpoints. maybe a few extra omnipods to sweeten the deal. take it from a blackhawk owner, omnimechs with bad omnipod options are useless. blackhawk legend with good pods maybe?

Edited by LordNothing, 19 June 2025 - 12:35 PM.