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[xSNAKEx]

I think the Diashi/Dire Wolf has almost twice the fire power potential so its more devastating to encounter than an Atlas.

Probably its only weakness should be slow aiming and slightly less armour than an Atlas.

[WiCkEd]

I'ld prefer the Akuma. Not alot of Atlas's floating around Drac space when the Smoke Jag's land.

[SMDMadCow]

The Akuma doesnt go into production until the 3060s. Until then the DC has two Atlas factories, on Quentin and Al'Nair.

[Adrian McLeod]

I like the Atlas ,,,

but I have to prever the clanner ,,, cause

I love tt-playing the Daishi - Widowmaker with his AK

[chickenwire12]

daishi any day every day

[Eruthis]

Dire Wolf all the way across the sky!!! Full on Double Dire Wolf!!!

[Kosai]

I learned to love Dashi the first time i saw it, i like much more the aesthetics on the Clan Mech designs (although you culd say most look and move like chickens XD)
But, after actually playing it too much i still would roll an Atlas any day, not really taing specs into account, it was just my big badass tanking machine when i first started with MW2, i did really miss it on Mechwarrior 3, i was really happy to see it back on MW4

Edited by Kosai, 25 May 2012 - 02:37 PM.

[WiCkEd]

SMDMadCow, on 25 May 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

The Akuma doesnt go into production until the 3060s. Until then the DC has two Atlas factories, on Quentin and Al'Nair.

It actually hit the shelves 3058 not the 60's. It was produced as a cost effective assault mech to combat the Smoke Jag's. limiting options to the Dire Wolf (clan) or the Atlas (IS) seems silly.

Edited by WiCkEd, 25 May 2012 - 10:59 PM.

[Hellgardia]

The Atlas AS7-S2 and the Dire Wolf Widowmaker are some of my personal favorites.

[Arch Angel 09]

I have always been partial to the Daishi but the Atlas looks so badass. I also plan to stick it out with the innersphere so I have to take to Atlas and besides the Daishi won't be available for a bit anyway.

[Elkarlo]

Ryoken Conf B. Then the Daishi Pilot sees Sky Earth Sky Earth and lands in the Mud, when the long Daishi nose is cutted away.


So i would say. Atlas the Mech which armor stopped the Clan's.

[G34R B0X]

Dashi!!! its my all time Fav 95+ ton mech,

[Gauro]

Daishi, who atlas???

[Feachador]

It's 3049, What's a Daishi?

That being said, I've never really been a "omgmusthazassaultmech" kinda guy. If we're including Clan tech, then I'll take a Vulture. For this game, I'm really looking forward to the Raven.

[jaytar]

Daishi

[NeoDac]

This is as has been pointed out a fairly pointless debate because it has no ground rules for why you would pick the mech..

the Daishi is simply put clan tech clan tech is better than IS tech but unless your the leader of a great house or otherwise amazingly well funded its near impossible to repair and maintain for the inner sphere for years and years to come after the clan invasion.

The Atlas is probably the most Iconic assault mech in existence its the mech Alexander Kerensky wanted to take completely with him out of the inner sphere unfortunately most of the pilots didn't want to go... think about that long and hard.. if he'd gotten his way there would probably be an omni atlas in the daishi's slot. (side note to the people calling him the founder of the clans.. sorry that's Nickolas his son.
its got a much longer history of kicking *** and taking names than the Daishi. whoever said the Daishi is more iconic back there is smoking something.. and is probably thinking of the Timberwolf/Madcat which was the postermech for battletech during the clan invasion... and frankly probably a better this versus that if your going to compare inner sphere atlases to clan mechs

and those of you going on about how its a DIRE WOLF... you have a point and you dont. it is the proper clan name but the first name that got into players hands was DAISHI its the name they have in the tech readouts yeah their clan names are there in parenthesis on the page but whats the big type at the top say? yep Daishi

and frankly the people who just point out tonnage for weapons aren't thinking.. mind you it seems that these people only play MW4 toss the same basic improvments (namely an XL engine inner sphere is just as light as a clan XL both use standard internal structure and armor by default) and you can get similar tonnage for weaponry and you know which version of the atlas does JUST that? as7-k the one that comes out to fight the clans. tonnage for weapons is the same.. sadly clan weapon tonnages are lower so the daishi will still outgun the atlas.. but you can always refit an atlas with clan tech..

and to add it in here because waaay back there we were told to compare it to the atlas instead of the Dire Wolf... lets look at the annihilator. i generally hate this mech personally i respect it but i don't like it. lots of power in those arms this is the mech that won me mechwarrior 3 but I've never liked the design or the base load-out.


but no matter what if we're gonna have this discussion lets please keep this to the base mechs and not how you can max one or the other out in this game or that because simply put when it comes to the tabletop setting or any mechwarrior before 4 and its infernal hardpoint system you can put exactly the same weapons on both base chasis with the same heatsinks (because you can put clan equipment in your atlas frame ) for the exact same loadouts and configurations. and frankly given inner sphere ingenuity over the clans... your more likely to see an atlas walking around with more and bigger guns than a daishi (after all theres still endosteel and ferro fibrous to add quineg?)


and to make another point (i came in late got a lot of things i want to address.) yeah the reasons for clan superiority are massively illogical

lets start with their tech superiority... the early clans were barely able to survive had much more savage (in total population terms) than the inner sphere has had and then had to BUILD factories to make new mechs inner sphere had what amounted to buissiness as usual and couldnt recover because the factories that built the mechs got smashed and for some reason couldn't be rebuilt huh?

Clan warriors basicaly told absolutely no history and expected to be the best warriors ever.. um yeah heres the oldest trick in the book the clan warrior looks on what the heck just happened? from this we know they have no sense of decent strategy or probably tactics.. especialy above the single warrior level they are taught from birth to fight at... greatest warriors my *bleep* this is part of why Natasha Kerensky was able to dive back into clan wolf and take over. while she was old for the clans she'd spent that time learning the book.. that the clans weren't allow to know existed.

we are the best because we are not freebirth we are genetically selected and altered in steel wombs and decanted aside from whatever got them to the initial set of phenotypes this is complete stagnation any genetic abnormality is removed which means that while everyone else is evolving through random mutation the clans are staying the same when the rest of humanity has evolved beyond physical form and developed all sorts of neat mental powers the clan trueborns will still be exactly as they are today.. only with less genetic diversity since you know programs like that breed that right out..

[byFid]

Need to compare Atlas or Hauptmann
Warlord or Daishi

[The Wendigo]

tl;dr

Needs more Mad Cat though.

[maxx2504]

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[Rejarial Galatan]

Feachador, on 26 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

It's 3049, What's a Daishi?

That being said, I've never really been a "omgmusthazassaultmech" kinda guy. If we're including Clan tech, then I'll take a Vulture. For this game, I'm really looking forward to the Raven.

Dire Wolf Production information Manufacturer Wolf Clan Site #1 Introduced 3010

need i say more? that little clip i posted is from sarna, on the Dire Wolf page. full page: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dire_Wolf