Hunchback vs Centurion (Yen-Lo-Wang variant)
#41
Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:14 PM
Hunchback has 2 tons of ammo = 10 rounds or 10 pulls of the trigger.
Yen-Lo-Wang = 3 tons of ammo = 15 rounds / pulls of the trigger
that does make a difference, as YLW can be more defensive, push longer ranges or more difficult shots without having to worry as much about the ammo count.
Ultimately it still comes down to pilot vs pilot, who gets lucky first and more often, and who can utilize terrain (if a factor) most effectively.
#42
Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:03 AM
Hunchback looks more like a Mech then the standard
Let's have some Diversity people.
Besides how can you pass up the chance to use the AC2?
Really, have you no sense of Ballistic BLAMMO?
Edited by FEK315, 23 February 2012 - 10:11 AM.
#43
Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:39 AM
#44
Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:27 AM
Centurion
Cruising Speed = 43.2 kph
Maximum Speed = 64.8 kph
Hunchback
Cruising Speed = 43.9 kph
Maximum Speed = 63.5 kph
Would this give a "very slight" speed advantage to the Centurion?
Anyways can someone confirm this max speed from the 3025 TRO readout.
Thanks.
#45
Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:52 AM
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Yen-Lo-Wang
Though really it would come down to terrain, pilot.
If you put a 0/0 pilot in the HB and a 1/1 in the YLW?
or a 4/4 or 3/3 in each?
I think 4/4 is avg? Correct me if wrong.
If you have Kai at the controls, there is no contest.
My preference would depend if I was going into an arena or open combat.
Arena - YLW
Military engagement - Probably the HB.
Edited by 8100d 5p4tt3r, 03 May 2012 - 05:57 AM.
#46
Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:57 AM
The HBK-4G is better than the HBK-Wifi
#47
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:04 AM
#48
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:13 AM
I have a 1xLRM15 w/ Artemis IV FCS, 32 salvos, 3xML, BAP, AMS and 5JJ, 97KPH, 100% heat efficiency and 95% armored that could pretty much shell an AC/20 Hunchie into the dirt from afar and play keep away at all times.
#49
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:22 AM
armor is important so is the placement of weapon,Hunchback will probably take one or two AC salvos more before being blown and thats big advantage
Edited by neodym, 03 May 2012 - 06:23 AM.
#50
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:30 AM
#51
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:37 AM
V.S.
Both custom. Both rocking. But I have to side with the Liao, even though he almost used to fight against us more than against the others.
#52
Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:55 AM
And I really doubt the YLW variant will be in MWO.
#53
Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:57 AM
When those AC20s rounds start to fly you really need as much armour as you can get. YLW is a fine mech but I wouldn't want to tangle with a Hunchback in it. Any hit by an AC20 is getting internals of a Centurion, by contrast a Hunchback has enough armour to survive any torso hit without damage and the Hunchback AC20 is torso mounted meaning that it is protected.
If I had the choice I'd rather fight a Hunchback on in a standard Centurion. The extra range of the LRM 10 and AC10 is a better solution, even here this isn't a fight I would be looking forward to.
The best mech take a Hunchback on with is something like a Griffin or Dervish. Anything with the speed to dictate the battle and a good medium to long range punch will do the trick. (I've also done it in a Wolfhound with an elite pilot but that was a really tense battle and not something I would want to do that often)
#54
Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:50 AM
Tadakuma, on 03 May 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
When those AC20s rounds start to fly you really need as much armour as you can get. YLW is a fine mech but I wouldn't want to tangle with a Hunchback in it. Any hit by an AC20 is getting internals of a Centurion, by contrast a Hunchback has enough armour to survive any torso hit without damage and the Hunchback AC20 is torso mounted meaning that it is protected.
You fail to mention (as did everybody else in this thread) that the AC/20 being in the YLW's arm means that it has a greater degree of movement. The Hunchback must turn its entire torso to fire its AC, whereas the YLW can move its faster and easier. Yes, it is less armored, but it makes up for that in aiming capability. The YLW can bring its weapon to bear much easier and faster (arms move faster than torsos in MWO) than the Hunchback can bring its AC to bear.
#55
Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:06 AM
1 More armor
2 More firepower, according to what I've heard about phisical attacks.
3 I'm Lyran, so I just had to go with the Hunchback.
#56
Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:00 PM
#57
Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:16 AM
This thread made realize why I always forget that Centurions normally have an LRM10.
#58
Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:22 AM
The reason being, I really like the hardpoint layout on the Hunchback. I am not a missile guy and I really HAVE to have armor. Yen-Lo-Wang is pretty cool, but in the end it's a 1 trick pony with nothing else going for it.
Hunchback Awesomness:
-Varient based off stock chassis could have a Guass Rifle replace the AC/20 and totally change the dynamic while allowing for a lot other.
-Swayback: I LOVE NON-BALLISTIC WEAPONS! So the abililty to have a swarm of Mediums or PPCs with Mediums gets me going!
I just like the design, it isn't perfect but it is nice.
In all reality I'm still waiting for a Medium 'Mech that I'm really excited about. But the Hunchback will hold me over till then
#59
Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:07 AM
- There is no Yen-Lo Wang "Variant". There is only Yen-Lo Wang. (He was a one-off. Not off the rack as it were)
- If there is only Yen-Lo Wang then there is only Kai Allard-Liao (the pilot in this timeframe)
- If there is only Kai Allard-Liao there is no Hunchback (Kai is arguably the best Mechwarrior in the Inner Sphere)
#60
Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:06 AM
So it wins in manliness!
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