30 replies to this topic

[dbennett143]

It's unbelievable how many people now a days are running Mac gaming rigs, should MWOnline be acessable to them??? what are your thoughts??

[Exilyth]

Mac OS is just a fancy unix, so once MW:O can be run on Linux, Mac support is trivial.

Edited by Exilyth, 09 September 2012 - 11:02 AM.

[Metal M]

Mac support would be cool but that takes some time. Shamefully I use bootcamp on my mac. Getting a windows OS isn't that expensive right now, and a plus since Windows 7 is a big improvement over vista.

[alfalfasprossen]

it lies solely in the hand of crytek. when they make their engine to run on a mac, you might get your mech on your mac, hehe
the mwo developers have close to no influence in this.

[Strum Wealh]

From Paul Inouye, Lead Designer for MechWarrior Online:

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We stated Day 1 that this was a PC exclusive title and that we had no intentions of moving it to other platforms.

CryENGINE 3 relies heavily on DirectX which does not run on a Mac. Yes, there's the dual boot option but we will not be supporting MWO running on a Windows partition on a Mac. If you choose to run the game like that, it's completely up to you but we will not be actively supporting those who do.

Posted here at 1:52am (forum server time) on June 21, 2012

[Geminus]

Mac users made their bed, now they can lie in it.

No one buys a mac thinking their getting a gaming platform

And to be honest, Apples entire product pholosphy is to make the product that they are going to tell you you want, and make sure that it is not compatible with anything else in the world, then make everyone else bend over backwards to make their product run on apple, Stop rewarding them.

Edited by Geminus, 07 October 2012 - 06:27 AM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

They don't have the rights to move it to a MAC platform.

Plain and simple.

Edited by PANZERBUNNY, 06 October 2012 - 09:52 PM.

[DrnkJawa]

[Tor Matthews]

dbennett143, on 09 September 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

It's unbelievable how many people now a days are running Mac gaming rigs, should MWOnline be acessable to them??? what are your thoughts??

theres really no such thing as a mac gaming rig unless you mean a hackintosh

[Gary Seven]

The real problem here is that this problem excludes an ever-increasing client base. In response to 'there is no mac gaming platform': ever heard of a MacPro or iMac?? MacPros eat professional graphics for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Also, I completely agree MWO should be available for linux/unix. With one of these caveats satisfied, I would have no problem with buying into the founder program. Until then, they're missing out on all the money Mac owners have..

[Gary Seven]

Also:

PANZERBUNNY, on 06 October 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

They don't have the rights to move it to a MAC platform.

Plain and simple.

CryEngine 3 is licensed for iOS, so it ought to be within the realm of possibility..

[Strum Wealh]

Gary Seven, on 07 October 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

CryEngine 3 is licensed for iOS, so it ought to be within the realm of possibility.

However, PGI's specific sub-license to the MechWarrior franchise does not extend to non-Microsoft platforms (a restriction put in place by Microsoft, who is still the ultimate license holder); listen to Byran Ekman (PGI Creative Director and Co-Founder) explain the rights situation in the "No Guts, No Galaxy" podcast #44 (starting at the 25:24 mark).

However, a later statement in the same podcast (starting at the 26:07) indicates that, in contrast to PGI, Personae Studios (producing MechWarrior Tactical Command) does have rights to produce MW products for Apple platforms but does not have rights to produce MW products for Microsoft platforms.

So, in addition to the technical issue (dependency on DirectX), there are also legal issues that would prevent MWO from being released for Apple platforms.

Edited by Strum Wealh, 07 October 2012 - 01:52 PM.

[Bansheedragon75]

Strum Wealh, on 07 October 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

does have rights to produce MW products for Apple platforms but does not have rights to produce MW products for Microsoft platforms.

So, in addition to the technical issue (dependency on DirectX), there are also legal issues that would prevent MWO from being released for Apple platforms.

This part of your statement here confuses me a bit because it seems contradictory to me.

First you say they dont have rights to make MW games on Microsoft platforms but have the rights for Apple platforms.
Then you go on to say they do not have the rights to Apple platforms.

The current MW games in development are being released for Windows only, last I checked they were Microsoft platforms, so how can they not have the rights to release on Microsoft platforms?

I'm just trying to understand what you are saying here, because what you say seems self contradictory, and wonder if you may have made some kind of typo.

Perhaps you can clarify?

Edited by Dragonlord, 07 October 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Dragonlord, on 07 October 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

This part of your statement here confuses me a bit because it seems contradictory to me.

First you say they dont have rights to make MW games on Microsoft platforms but have the rights for Apple platforms.
Then you go on to say they do not have the rights to Apple platforms.

The current MW games in development are being released for Windows only, last I checked they were Microsoft platforms, so how can they not have the rights to release on Microsoft platforms?

I'm just trying to understand what you are saying here, because what you say seems self contradictory, and wonder if you may have made some kind of typo.

Perhaps you can clarify?

It's two separate companies.

Piranha Games (the company making MechWarrior Online) has the rights, by virtue of their license to the franchise to make MechWarrior games for Microsoft platforms (PC, XBox, etc), but their license covers only those platforms.

Personae Studios (the Company making MechWarrior Tactical Command) has the rights, by virtue of their license to the franchise (which is separate from that of Piranha Games) to make MechWarrior games for certain other platforms (including Apple products), but not those platforms covered by Piranha Games' license.

The entity that ultimately decides what MechWarrior video game licenses are granted to whom, and on what terms, is still Microsoft.

As the licenses are ultimately legal agreements, that means that Piranha (one company) and Personae (another company) are legally bound to observe and adhere to the terms of their respective (and separate) licenses.

'Twould perhaps be better to listen to the podcast itself (the link was included in my previous post) and hear Mr. Ekman explain it in his own words...?

[Bansheedragon75]

I did listen to it, but I still got a bit confused.
I got the impression that it was talk about PGI.
Maybe I was just not listening closely enough.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying.

[TylerAllen86]

I'm also a mac user! why don't i buy a pc? Answer is because i don't buy computers for gaming. i buy computers to aid me in being a professional adult . Professionals don't use windows! So I'd like to act like a kid every now and again while i take a break on my "adult" machine! I've got a PS3 at home i "GAME" on! This is for tethering the LTE connection from my iphone while i have a 30 minute break! 2012 Macbook air (low settings) w/ Ps3 gamepad in briefcase! Mac mini at home on TV! bluetooth keyboard / mouse!

[xenoglyph]

How much do professional trolls get paid? Must not be much, because otherwise you could afford a Mac -and- a PC.

Edited by xenoglyph, 06 November 2012 - 09:36 PM.

[GanjiBubbles]

who the **** cares about mac users.. they not playing the game or hardly any others for that matter, why is it in the MWO forums at all, that's a general internet question.. the bigger question is why does more get messed up on patches than fixed?!?!?!?!?!

[Volthorne]

TylerAllen86, on 06 November 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

I'm also a mac user! why don't i buy a pc? Answer is because i don't buy computers for gaming. i buy computers to aid me in being a professional adult . Professionals don't use windows! So I'd like to act like a kid every now and again while i take a break on my "adult" machine! I've got a PS3 at home i "GAME" on! This is for tethering the LTE connection from my iphone while i have a 30 minute break! 2012 Macbook air (low settings) w/ Ps3 gamepad in briefcase! Mac mini at home on TV! bluetooth keyboard / mouse!

I believe this should do nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0

Edited by Volthorne, 06 November 2012 - 10:12 PM.

[Itsacon]

Just a thought: MWO would be really hard to play with only one mouse button :-)

Alpha strikes only, baby!