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#541 Jonas

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

I would by Mechs or I should say alt's of the Mechs ( like lets say in the "cannon" or "lore" there was a Mech with these kinds of Mods ) Unlike the stock one's which only had X amount of room or space to tweak. In the all the read outs there where at least 2 or 3 models of each Mech.
Maybe we could by a SLDF model of some of the Mechs that already had the upgrades then we just mod them a little to fit us. A SLDF era Mech was something to take pride in if you had one or found a Cash of SLDF Weapons or gear " lostech " if you will.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:17 PM

I like all of the suggestions you listed except for one.

View PostBlackfire1, on 30 November 2011 - 06:29 PM, said:

General:
Loyalty abandonment doctrines: Gives the player an RPG/Mech Mission to change over to a different faction with the ability to bring over a set loyalty rank or set loyalty points into the new faction. Playing House Kurita till E5, defecting to FRR, and instead of starting new retain some "dignity" into the new faction. E3. Only usable one per faction. Reversing said results (going back to kurita from FRR) would follow normal game protocol and result in going back to Zero. If available at all. This is more a theory in progress.


A House, a Merc Corp, and a Clan are all going to be communities. What has been shown to provide the quickest way to destroy a community in an MMO? Provide any type of transfers. If people REALLY want to join that different faction they need to start completely from scratch faction, xp, and moneywise.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:25 PM

View PostAegis Kleais™, on 18 March 2012 - 05:38 AM, said:

I can't see the replay value on SP or CO-OP being anywhere as near as MP, and AI programming takes a while to implement, not to mention all the resources they would have to create such as maps, art/model assets, voice work. If they were going to do so, it would probably cost around the price of an expansion pack.

Hey! Expansion Packs! Isn't that what they called store-bought DLC? They had SO much more content than DLC today.... poor expansion packs. :(

Mission packs, expansion packs... call them what you will...

My point is that their real time approach lends itself well to releasing mission packs often once AI is created. I would anticipate the first being more substantial, and more money, see how it is recieved, then release them more often (individual missions?) for less money, or more substantial packs for the truly devoted.

#544 Togg Bott

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:00 PM

Honestly, i would gladly pay for the ability to play co-op with my teammates for c-bills. $10-$15 a month, or a set amount upon release... yeah, i'd do that and i know alot of other die-hard fans would as well.

#545 Dirk Le Daring

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 11:10 PM

Paint jobs, Decals, A Hula Girl (really) Edit:Bought.

If I think of anything else I'll edit this.

Edit;
How about a decal,if you can call it that, that shows your kills, like the ones often seen on WWII aircraft. That I would pay for. It would have to automatically update or course Posted Image

Edit:
T-shirts, and hats. Embroidered patches too.

Edited by Dirk Le Daring, 30 November 2012 - 04:22 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:51 AM

Ugh. This is getting WAY overanalyzed. The model is simple. EVERYTHING is available for cbills. Mechs, Weapons, Custom camos, trinkets, baubles, character/mech slots, ect. It's gonna be GRINDTASTIC trying to play the game enough to really get everything you want, so cash money can be used to buy c-bills, allowing shortcuts. However, there is NOTHING that a paying customer can get that a Free Player cannot. There are NO CASH ONLY ITEMS. Non Paying customers who decide to grind it out, are providing MWO a service by ensuring there is always someone online to shoot at. While the rest of us, who do not have as much time on our hands, will monetize to be able to unlock stuff. That, is not pay to win, everyone has a chance at the items they deem important. People with money (Which at its core is a cultural representation of value gained by time spent working, at least at an abstract level) have instead invested their time in jobs or other persuits, and will transfer the money (value) they have gained in their employment to the devlopers (while those without money are investing time directly).

So in short, the only things I expect that I will HAVE to pay real money for, are items outside of the sphere of the gameplay itself. Shirts, Hats, Apparel, Artbooks, peripheral physical items. Everything else can be paid for in c-bills gained either through gameplay or purchased.

Edited by FoxFang, 23 March 2012 - 04:57 AM.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:43 AM

All right. Topics merged at last. This really belongs in the suggestions section though, because we're -suggesting- stuff for them to sell to us. Topic with the earlier OP (and more appropriate title) gets master thread rights.

Secondary thread Master Sparked.

Have a good day, gentlemen.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:56 AM

View PostAegis Kleais™, on 23 March 2012 - 05:38 AM, said:

There's probably more expense in SP missions than making a MP product. AI is costly to develop, and often overcome in short time by even non-tactical human "AI". It would require creating lots and lots of new maps, hiring voice talent and scripting in-game cutscene sequences.

Personally, I would rather PGI spend it's time making MP better and better than to move over to more static SP campaigns. If they feel at one point they can take on both, more power to them.

I understand all those points, that's why we would pay to play the missions. AI does not have to be anything fantastic, just enough to make the flavor/feel worth my cash.
Also, aside from AI, as I said before a lot of this development is transferable into the MP experience. Repeating myself, new maps are always welcome in MP and attack/defense game play modes with objectives would be awesome next to "just another deathmatch round".

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:05 AM

View PostDirk Le Daring, on 22 March 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

A Hula Girl (really). :(


A MWO Branded Hula Girl would be cheap and easy to do too.. :blink:

Personally I would pay to get in the Beta :)

I mean allow only say 5,000 slots at $100 thats a Half Million Dollars.. Just putting it out there..

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

View PostAegis Kleais™, on 23 March 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

Yup.

High startup costs, assets can better the MP experience, but work on it might lower quantity of MP updates. Maybe we could do a kickstarter on it.

This is how I hope things progress
  • Beta release sometime in August 2012
  • Full release December 2012 or Jan. 2013. (presuming the world hasn't ended)
  • A fairly large, balancing update around April/May 2013
At this point, the game has 9 months of online play to work out the kinks, should run smoothly, had adjustments for balance/gameplay issues and is "done" so to speak.

August/September 2013 (slash 3049) - CLAN UPDATE!
On the BT timeline, this is when the clans start to hit periphery worlds.

To commemorate this, a mission pack is released (nothing huge yet, maybe just 10 missions) where players can play as clan invaders.

On the MP side, this means that
  • Clan mechs/tech can be slowly leaked into the MP game (as salvage from the front becomes available etc)
  • New game attack/defend/objective modes are released now that the basic MP deathmatch package has been "perfected"

If the missions are well received and worth the devs time, they can make more releases in the future depending on what works best:
  • Small mission packs, maybe just 4-6 missions simulating planet invasion/defense depending on who won (player always "simulates" the canon outcome, whether its for clan or IS)
  • Large mission packs for longer campaigns, perhaps covering multiple planets or even an entire clan wave.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:47 AM

View PostChuckie, on 23 March 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

Personally I would pay to get in the Beta :(

I'm sure they'd let you :blink:

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:51 AM

View PostTHOR HAMMER, on 21 March 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Just make us pay a monthly fee and give us the full monty then pay to win goes right out the side window of your mech and everyone is happy..


For the first time ever, I think the devs are going to win the battle against pay to win. They have made several statements that leave me feeling very optomistic.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:36 AM

i would definitely be open to the idea of purchasing post release SP campaigns. I mean, SP is what I've always loved about MW..

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:17 PM

View PostChembot, on 18 March 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

Here is an ambition product idea..
The MWO Neurohelmet!.. A gaming helmet with built in headphones and a mic, plus a seperate sticker sheet of the players chosen faction. The sheet could have kill markers, the emblem of their house/clan/merc unit, medal emblems (for that faction) stripes, slogans etc. Retail them for $100 or so, and I'm pretty certain that the store wont have stock hanging around!

And then.. here's a cool idea that uses the helmet..

After the game has been released and has gathered steam, a add-on to the game could be a skype style player cam.. So during play, the player can open a window to a team mate where they can see their face (with use of a web cam obviously) to add more depth to the player experience. To take the experience further, the player could hang some green fabric behind their head, where a cockpit image is superimposed and you have (almost) full player simulated immersion. RPG experience point bonus???

On a side note, does anybody recall VR glasses/helmet support for MW2?


Don't forget that it would be a good place to stick the sensor (or whatever it is) for the TrackIR system.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:41 AM

View PostLycan, on 24 March 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:


Don't forget that it would be a good place to stick the sensor (or whatever it is) for the TrackIR system.


A simple gyro (similar to how the PS3/Wiimote motion controls work) in the actual neurohelmet would be entirely awesome as a product gimmick, if they make any hardware.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:18 AM

I really like the idea of buying SP or CO-OP content packs especially if you can gain online points buy completing them. in the case of the single play model it would mean those that take a little longer to get the handle wouldn't get blasted all the time and if ppl want to farm they can do it off line in SP mode save the server load .. just a thought B)

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:10 AM

I would buy it if it was available, but I don't think it will be anytime soon. I wouldn't want them to just half-*** some AI (which is not something you can really half-***. You can have bad AI, but it still takes work to make bad AI) just to get the single player out there. That would upset all the people who would pay for the campaigns.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

League of Legends has a tried and true free to play model, and manages to keep the game exciting and balanced. However, I have one complaint and that is with the way things are purchased. Why do you have to buy riot points(RP), and then with those points purchase things from the store?

The things that are bought, and the amounts of RP you can buy don't mesh up at all. You either have to buy too much RP, or wait till things go on sale to buy something for cheap. In both cases you end up with useless amounts of RP that you never get your monies worth out of.

Now there are probably some other things going on here that i don't understand, causing them to choose this method of purchasing things from the store, but i think its the wrong one.

I would like to see things listed in the store for actual actual amounts of money, and not as some special store point system.

My reasons for this are as follows:
-Users can easily evaluate store goods for how much its really worth to them versus how much it costs since there is no price conversion process.
-Users get their entire monies worth out of every single purchase.
-No leftover points that aggravate users

I would rather pay more money for every store item then use some kind of store points system.

I think selling store points (in bundles as opposed to exact amounts) is an underhanded tactic to get people to buy more than they need.

People paying and exact amount of money will walk away feeling satisfied with what they bought, and they will come back and buy more.

The only issue I can think of that arises with this is the amount of transactions with real money that has to be managed. I don't know what other issues this might cause.

Also, if a store point system must be used, i would like to see the option to buy an exact amount of points instead of only preexisting store point bundles. Go ahead and keep the price curve if you want. Make it so that when i only buy enough points to get exactly one thing that i have to pay more, versus if i bought enough points for exactly five things.

Thanks for reading. Also i looked for similar topics, and searched for any existing information regarding this, but I couldn't find much. If there is some existing information or post, please direct me there.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:40 PM

One problem with your (imho is good) Idea is the fact this is a world wide game , would we have to all use Canadian dollars

Think about it there are people from Russia,UK ,(and all their commonwealth) Gods Country (Minnesota) all of EU, ect. ect....

Edited by FinnMcKool, 25 March 2012 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

I doubt you'd see some sort of "MWO points". Since we have a rather well fleshed out universe, the currency of choice will be C-Bills.

I imagine paying money will either let you buy things that cannot be bought with C-Bills, custom skins or cockpit knicknacks etc, or get a conversion rate into C-Bills, i.e. for buying 'Mechs or equipment, whatever the case may be.





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