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[Merrik Starchaser]

Drago6817, on 30 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Sorry but some of us have played in CB and know this is a flat out lie. The trial mechs cannot compete with a customized mech.

I got 5 kills 3 assist using the trial awesome last night first time using it, against a premade. It may not be as good as a custom mech, but to say it cannot compete is an outright falsehood.

[Odins Fist]

Merrik Starchaser, on 31 October 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

I got 5 kills 3 assist using the trial awesome last night first time using it, against a premade. It may not be as good as a custom mech, but to say it cannot compete is an outright falsehood.

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So this has to be said again..?? Pilot skill can only account for just so much against a superior loadout.. "PERIOD"
Nah, pretty much everyone that has a clue has agreed (since closed beta) that a Customizable mech that can Outrun, Outgun, take more damage, etc, etc, etc over a trial mech, pretty much has the advantage..
After running both, I can say without a doubt the trial mechs "TRY" to be good at everything, but you cannot be all things at all times, if you can find the true strengths of a Mechs capabilities, then customize it (which trials CANNOT do), then you have a FAR more than equal chance of turning a trial Mech into a heap of smoking newb..
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Don't try to sell me on the old "Trial Mechs are just as good as customized mechs routine", nobody with a clue buys that one, and hasn't since this summer, and closed beta... They aren't, the numbers don't match up.. 2+2=4..
2+2 (does not) = popcorn
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End of Story...Case Closed

[Borengar629]

Oh. It's trial mech diskussion time again. Though we were over it by now. But ok....
Trial mechs cannot and will nocht be competitive with costumizable ones because they are not supposed to be. Let's summuarize why this is so.
This videogame is supposed to be fun for us players and pay the rent for the developpers.
In order to do so it would be very unwise to implant trial mechs in which you acutally can win a lot. Do you want the scene to be ruled by trial-premades? I don't think so. Does Piranha want trial mechs to be a real competition to those mechs you either grind for and fill their game with live or even pay for? I serious don't think so.
This is not what was meant to be in the first place.
Why else buy a mech for? EP? Equippment? Cusomization? What for if this doesn't make you better in the game? If I'd be able to win in trials (not once or so but on a regular bases, no matter the circumstances) I'd stay with it or not?
Trial are more of an internship. You get to know the company, see the different departments, just to give you a real insight in how things are done around the place. But most of he time you're to be sweeping the yard with your teeth brush.
And that's ok, since trial time is short enough not to bother.
So all in all threre're three types of players out there:
1. Sir Cryalot who don't get the point what trials are meant to be, and who wants them to be average mechs in which it is fun to play without thinking about any consequences.
2. Sir Dreamalot who is fed up with Sir Cryalot's complaints and seriously claims that trial mechs are average mechs in which it is fun to play. Not because he doesn't know what they are for, but simply because of the fact, that he does have a customizable and every trial mech he shots ought to have had a fair chance.... so basically for his good conscience.
3. Sir Playalot who ist aware of the fact that trial mechs are walking trash cans but simply doesn't care. Sir Playalot keeps focussed buys his first costumizable mech as soon as he get's the chance. He does not gloryfies himself for every trial mech he kills in the field, but he has also no mercy with them because this is the way things are done piloting a battlemech.
So... which type are you?

Edited by Trickshot, 31 October 2012 - 11:38 PM.

[nferno6]

Drago6817, on 30 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Sorry but some of us have played in CB and know this is a flat out lie. The trial mechs cannot compete with a customized mech.

I do agree, but you stand a chance if you are creeping and get lucky with a last hit...

[Katakis]

Trial mechs are - and always were, no matter the game - terrible as far as mechwarrior goes. Brainless weapons arrangement (the trial awesome is the most praised simply because it's not as ******** in its weapons setup), poor armor decision, bad engine decision. They can only shine once you get one for yourself and clean them up.
Don't you even try to tell me your first move in any mechwarrior game wasn't going to mechlab and customizing the hell of your purchase.

All in all, this topic sounds like one of those stages of grief. A very eloquent denial, but ultimately without any factual evidence, just anecdotal, and not touching any of the real issues with trials.

[rgreat]

Drago6817, on 30 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Sorry but some of us have played in CB and know this is a flat out lie. The trial mechs cannot compete with a customized mech.

Nope, you just suck.

[Ran]

Trials are supposed to be fodder, but they really need to revisit the scout. The Raven is currently only marginally better than a disconnected player.

[Zervziel]

Lord people can be daft.

"Custom mechs can kick the *** of trials so that means the trials suck!"

Oh Crap! The mechs who's armor you can tweak and who's weapons you can pull off and replace at will is better than the stock! Stop the presses!

No, duh, geniuses. What, you gonna tell us the sun is bright next? That isn't what they were saying. The OP was saying that the trial mechs aren't bad machines, it's just that newbies really need to know how to use them first and it's true. I can't say how many times I've seen an 8T close only to fire it's missiles at my torso inside the min distance. The newbies need to learn how to play first before you hand them the keys. That way they know a little more about what they are doing when they get their mechs.

Also anyone can win in a custom-tailored mech. Someone that can see what a stock mech that isn't tailored to their specific tastes can really do and proceeds to do so is the better pilot in my opinion.

[Theodor Kling]

Lavrenti, on 30 October 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

Honestly, the trial mechs are pretty bad. I've had the most success with the Awesome and the Centurion - pretend you're a fire-support mech and fire off the LRMs early, then close to engage with your lasers. But I strongly suspect any decently outfitted mech of the same class - perhaps even the same type - would wipe the floor with them, all other things being equal.

Although custom mechs give you an edge, the the trial Centurion works just fine for me ( apart from the no-XP thing ) .Getting 500+ damage done, getting 2 kills and a few more assists ist not exactley impossible in it. Yeah..you gotta watch your heat level..so what?

Psikez, on 30 October 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

Ah yeah its totally fun to play an 81 kph raven that damn near melts down if you fire any of its weapons against a 140 kph jenner. It stotally not the mech its your piloting *scoff*

I do agree that the stock Raven as it is ( lacking the very thing that makes the Raven worhthile: the electronics) is pretty poor, and the Dragon is just as fast.. only with more armour . But last rotation the light was a Jenner.. maybe next time it´s a Commando. And once they implement the EW stuff , the stock Raven might also shine.
And my current custom ride is a nearly stock COM-1B. Just removed the ML for another heat sink.