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[Qin]

Dihm, on 02 April 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

In your analogy, it would be the management of A SMALL SECTION OF THE ENTIRE CLUB. You can't manage the entire House Davion, the rules of the game don't allow it. You can manage a small subset who decide they like you and what you're doing. This is why calling it a "House Davion CoC" causes problems, because you are trying to claim authority of people (intentional or not) by calling it that.

You are creating a subgroup to manage, not the entire House.

Hmmm, more like the House contains many clubs. Who amonghts themself compete to be the best of the House. And all the Houses together form the world league.

Im sorry but im unaware of some in game rule that wont allouw people to say they are part of a group or part of a club.
We life in an age with tons of ways to communicate with each other. And we humans do have deviced loads of ways to organize ourselfs. That there are no ways to form "guilds" inside the House regiments wont stop anybody from forming their own little teams. It might be inconvinient that you dont get a badge and teamname next to your name but that wont stop people.

[Dihm]

I'm starting to think you guys are being deliberately obtuse.

Okay, let's go with your way. You're trying to claim to be the leadership of House Davion, yet you represent only one small "club" within all of the players who will make up House Davion. You have no say whatsoever on all the other "clubs" within the House. There could be five other groups who claim to be the "REAL" House Davion, and you could do nothing to stop them. None of them would have any authority either. No one will have power over other faction players. No matter what you call yourselves, you AREN'T the leadership of House Davion. You only lead those who chose to follow you, and this will be a FRACTION of the faction's playerbase.

You aren't trying to form your "own little team", you're trying to form the "One Team to rule them all", and you CAN'T. Just call yourself something else, pick a different name, make life easier, gather friends, play, have fun, and don't try to run the world(s).

[Meneiupptus]

I can't speak for the other players in this concept of the CoC just for myself. I could care less about telling anyone what to do in House Davion. I personally believe that if you have faction based play then something should be done to control the faction. Has that happened since EGA MPBtech... no. I have seen thousands create their own factions though in other games and yes a CoC has always been necessary.

Every house is going to have their inner factions as well... guilds.... alliances... dissidents... troublemakers... loners just as every other game with faction based warfare has. You go play to your own way and we'll play to ours.

I am a Loner... In this game that won't be allowed most likely so I will bring a few friends I know in life and respond when the CoC that... is mentioned herein... calls me to do. You go do your own thing and maybe we will see you on the battlefield.

[LordRush]

lol you know what the real problem here is? No other House has this issue because everyone and their mother wants to be in Davion!!

[Azantia]

Congratulations LordRush!!....I have found someone with whom I disagree with more vehemently than you.

Eagle, we will see you in game. Its a shame to me that we will be on the same "side", but I wish you and your boys the best of luck with your grand plans. Hopefully you guys get what you want and create your uber important, elite inner circle gaming group, with all the ranks and titles to go along with it...I hope in time i will see you earn your Ks, Ds, and Rs.......question is, how long will it take?!

The biggest shame is the fact that you guys still fail to see that you could have the whole "house" on-board if you could just lose the entitled, self-righteous state of megalomania that are the hallmarks of your posts that this community has come to know you by.

Regards,
- Az

[LordRush]

Azantia, on 02 April 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Congratulations LordRush!!....I have found someone with whom I disagree with more vehemently than you.

::Takes a Bow:: Thank you, Thank you all...I accept this award.
I'd like to Thank all the little people , it is you who deserves this more
I'd like to Thank Azantia for suggesting this prestigious accolade with which I give my deepest gratitude. If it wasn't for him,none of this would be possible!
To House Davion and Prince Qin...<<Deep Bows>>

Edited by LordRush, 02 April 2012 - 12:51 PM.

[Dihm]

LordRush, on 02 April 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

lol you know what the real problem here is? No other House has this issue because everyone and their mother wants to be in Davion!!

Er... no, no one else has people claiming to run the show (though, I suppose Metro does have his "House Leader" sig). That's why you have the issue.

Edited by Dihm, 02 April 2012 - 12:53 PM.

[Meneiupptus]

I don't expect those letters will be of much use in the new game... but hey if there is a system of rewards for players they like it more. WoW proved that... titles get the grind going. I really do hope more players align with the system and work to make it better for the masses. It will be handy and I really hate to lose. Nothing worse than watching a section of your hard fought defended worlds fall to the enemy while Mo Blow and the Hickory Smoked Sausage Division stand by picking their nose.

[LordRush]

Dihm, on 02 April 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Er... no, no one else has people claiming to run the show (though, I suppose Metro does have his "House Leader" sig). That's why you have the issue.

O...so then its only one sided then? Metro has long been a part of that. So...why is it then that Liao doesn't have an issue with it?
This is NOT an issue on ANY other House forum? You gotta ask yourself why. Matter of fact..it is seemingly more and more apparent that there are only a handful of people that are against what the old guard desires to bring? You guys are acting like it is a freakin hostile takeover,when it isnt. Jeez you guys...lighten up fer crying out loud. If you dont wish to be a part....dont. But dont come in here either attempting to say that what we are doing is wrong. It is pure speculation and opinion and all really this is, is pure trolling.
Dont like it? Dont respond plain and simple.
It is obvious that sides wont come to an agreement. So..we agree to go our separate paths and we wish each other luck.
However...when the time comes, our numbers will be surprising. Our actions will display a completely different mentality than what you portray us to be. And then...you will recognize our strength.

[Dihm]

Well, good luck.

[Azantia]

Well unless you are bringing in 30% or more of the house, which House Davion is roughly 15% of the population (80,000~) 12,000x.3 = 3600, lets drop it to say 3000 for the low end of variables and add-hoc math. So your grand plan for a "house" chain of command, I will not be impressed unless you have 3000 people.

I find it to be a HUGE stretch to believe you if you said you have more than 150.

The Rangers have between 80 and 100
The Shieldwall (different faction) has 60, and they are Large units to my understanding by community standards.

Best of luck anyway. You seem to think Quantity over Quality, which is one way to do it...I prefer Quality over Quantity and that WILL show.

EDIT : I think the other houses have people who disagree, but maybe are not as vocal as myself or Colonel Gallows. We go involved in the argument hoping to voice our concerns and be a part of the conversation and planning in a fair manner. But after getting a taste of the personalities we would be required to play with, we thought better of it. It was not simply to "oppose" you...Once again, the entitled, self-righteous nature shows through.

Good Luck, time will show how successful and "elite" your little group becomes.

Edited by Azantia, 02 April 2012 - 01:16 PM.

[Dihm]

Azantia, on 02 April 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Best of luck anyway. You seem to think Quantity over Quality, which is one way to do it...I prefer Quality over Quantity and that WILL show.

We're the IKEA of merc units.

[Azantia]

Hey, my wife loves IKEA....

[Dihm]

We do have the best meatballs and lingonberries. Don't forget our CHOKLAD MÖRK and KRYSSBO!

[Claw55]

Dihm, on 02 April 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

We do have the best meatballs and lingonberries. Don't forget our CHOKLAD MÖRK and KRYSSBO!

Can't argue with that logic.

[L zard]

Azantia, on 02 April 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Congratulations LordRush!!....I have found someone with whom I disagree with more vehemently than you.

Eagle, we will see you in game. Its a shame to me that we will be on the same "side", but I wish you and your boys the best of luck with your grand plans. Hopefully you guys get what you want and create your uber important, elite inner circle gaming group, with all the ranks and titles to go along with it...I hope in time i will see you earn your Ks, Ds, and Rs.......question is, how long will it take?!

The biggest shame is the fact that you guys still fail to see that you could have the whole "house" on-board if you could just lose the entitled, self-righteous state of megalomania that are the hallmarks of your posts that this community has come to know you by.

Regards,
- Az

Az, you realize that Eagle is a Smoke Jaguar, do you not...........Same side???

Edited by L`zard, 02 April 2012 - 01:47 PM.

[Eagle HH]

My unit's only alignment is with itself for right now. I would gladly fight for Dav for pay but we have yet to see what the game offers.

I do think it's a shame some of you are trolling against fellow Dav. Just shut it and just see where you land in the innersphere come game-time. Don't discredit a group you know nothing about, talk about being obtuse? One day you may need someone to bail you out so don't go burning bridges.

[Azantia]

I would much sooner burn than ask for help from some in this thread. Besides, I have plenty of good comrades in arms, and the list is growing everyday.

LZ, thanks for clearing up the "side" issue. I figured since Eagle was posting he was taking a Davion "side". Alot of guys have outdated or incorrect sigs.

As for not knowing anything about the gaming group...I can only go based off their attitude and actions on these forums, and that is EXACTLY what I am doing, if you dont like my stance, too bad. Change your attitude or live with it.

BTW, there was never a bridge to begin with, so, poor analogy.

Edited by Azantia, 02 April 2012 - 02:04 PM.

[Qin]

Azantia, on 02 April 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

EDIT : I think the other houses have people who disagree, but maybe are not as vocal as myself or Colonel Gallows. We go involved in the argument hoping to voice our concerns and be a part of the conversation and planning in a fair manner. But after getting a taste of the personalities we would be required to play with, we thought better of it. It was not simply to "oppose" you...Once again, the entitled, self-righteous nature shows through.

Good Luck, time will show how successful and "elite" your little group becomes.

I hate to burst you bubble, but you do realize that you forgot to do the conversation part and went straight to the attack from the first post you made in this tread? maybe i should jog your memory a little, it was around page 5. Something about ego's e-peens and us not giving a **** about the House, followed by more post in the same manner.

So don't claim you got involved in any fair conversation to voice your concerns. You happily jumped on the podium and started to vilify people you had not talked to nor even bothered to get to know.

[LordRush]

And your actions arent any better Azantia. We dont have to conform to your mentality or anyone else. You are the one who has instigated most of this. Your deliberate trolling has made you look like a complete [insert expletive here]. You are the one coming in here acting all high and mighty and that people should do things your way.
I have YET to see ANY recommendations or things to bring ALL parties together. Instead, you come here and whine about how things arent going your way like a spoiled brat.
Deep down inside, I believe you are worried. You are afraid of what you dont know. You have this mentality that we are the bad guys when it was you yourself that induced the reactions you have received.
Please....go elsewhere. Merc is better sorted for your personality.

Eagle...you da man...and I wish we didnt have to lose you either. You have been at this game just as long as we have.

Edited by LordRush, 02 April 2012 - 02:11 PM.