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[Sug]

As a pugger, I beg you guys, please stop using the Awesome trial mech. You are just hurting your team

I know it's the biggest mech, but bigger does not always equal better. It's just awful:

1) Huge torso hit boxes.
2) Relatively light torso armor.
3) It's SLOW!
4) It counts as an assault mech (80 tons). So the other team will most likely get an Atlas(100 tons) to balance out the teams.
5) Only 12 shots of LRM ammo. So after a minute of firing, you're reduced to a giant slow target with 2 large lasers....

When I see an Awesome on the other team I giggle and rub my hands together with glee.

When there's one or, god forbid, multiple Awesomes on my team, I cry.

Please, please, please. Choose anything else. Try out the Raven and do some scouting. It will help your team much more than driving a free kill like the Awesome.

[Lefty Lucy]

Sug, on 31 October 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

As a pugger, I beg you guys, please stop using the Awesome trial mech. You are just hurting your team

I know it's the biggest mech, but bigger does not always equal better. It's just awful:

1) Huge torso hit boxes.
2) Relatively light torso armor.
3) It's SLOW!
4) It counts as an assault mech (80 tons). So the other team will most likely get an Atlas(100 tons) to balance out the teams.
5) Only 12 shots of LRM ammo. So after a minute of firing, you're reduced to a giant slow target with 2 large lasers....

When I see an Awesome on the other team I giggle and rub my hands together with glee.

When there's one or, god forbid, multiple Awesomes on my team, I cry.

Please, please, please. Choose anything else. Try out the Raven and do some scouting. It will help your team much more than driving a free kill like the Awesome.

The Raven is much worse at scouting than the awesome is at being a fire support platform, as flawed as it is.

[Virisken]

the awesome lacks of ammo but its still a good mech..can hurt a lot with an lsr/largelaser alpha.

its not the best mech and can not rival an atlas.but its a strong opponent

[RedHairDave]

the cent is good... but really all trials are terrible. i think its the lack of ams. that might be it really. thanks to the trials all having lrm's, lrm's are everywhere right now. no ams, means you get smashed.

Edited by RedHairDave, 31 October 2012 - 08:38 AM.

[Xantars]

The Trial Awsome Isnt so bad if its played right with the proper team work. yes its slow and has limited LRM ammo .. so dont spam your LRM make your shots count.. and two Large lasers are pleny to fight with just watch your heat and you can get a few kills and help your team march to victory.. Above All Play smart work with your team and never ever fight alone .. unless your the last man standing

[Roughneck45]

Pug assault mechs do scare me. In fact, I just assume everyone on my team is incompotent, so I can only be impressed if they do something worthwhile, or even *GASP* communicate with the team!

[wanderer]

Sug, on 31 October 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

As a pugger, I beg you guys, please stop using the Awesome trial mech. You are just hurting your team

I know it's the biggest mech, but bigger does not always equal better. It's just awful:

1) Huge torso hit boxes.
2) Relatively light torso armor.
3) It's SLOW!
4) It counts as an assault mech (80 tons). So the other team will most likely get an Atlas(100 tons) to balance out the teams.
5) Only 12 shots of LRM ammo. So after a minute of firing, you're reduced to a giant slow target with 2 large lasers....

When I see an Awesome on the other team I giggle and rub my hands together with glee.

When there's one or, god forbid, multiple Awesomes on my team, I cry.

Please, please, please. Choose anything else. Try out the Raven and do some scouting. It will help your team much more than driving a free kill like the Awesome.

Why, you ask? This is why.

http://mwomercs.com/...-fast-training/

And sadly, I frequently end up doing more in that "free kill" than the rest of the team will during a match. That LRM ammo is enough to drop an enemy 'Mech in a hurry, combined with the large lasers. After that, you've got the firepower of a heavy, but that's often enough to maim or kill another 'Mech enough to do your fair share. You just don't have the LRMs to waste on low-odds shots.

[LordBraxton]

Xantars, on 31 October 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

The Trial Awsome Isnt so bad if its played right with the proper team work. yes its slow and has limited LRM ammo .. so dont spam your LRM make your shots count.. and two Large lasers are pleny to fight with just watch your heat and you can get a few kills and help your team march to victory.. Above All Play smart work with your team and never ever fight alone .. unless your the last man standing

Totally agreed, in fact I think the awesome is the most viable trial mech of the four.

Make your LRMs count and you can do massive damage.

Also it is the ONLY trial mech with any semblance of heat efficiency.

[Vlad Ward]

Trial Awesome is probably the best of the 4 trial mechs. Real talk.

Raven is slow and any real light mech can wipe the floor with it without taking a hit.

Centurion has a huge liek xbox hitbox.

Dragon is a mixed-range pile of "Help, I'm having a teenage identity crisis"

Awesome at least has an optimum range to work with and a solid loadout of weapons built for that range.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 31 October 2012 - 08:37 AM.

[Psykosis]

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Also it is the ONLY trial mech with any semblance of heat efficiency.

this.

[meteorol]

Virisken, on 31 October 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

the awesome lacks of ammo but its still a good mech..can hurt a lot with an lsr/largelaser alpha.

its not the best mech and can not rival an atlas.but its a strong opponent

The trail awesome may be a strong opponent to some mechs, but the it is simply no match for an atlas.
Problem is that it is very often balanced against an atlas.
Would be nice if the matchmaker would try to match the actuall weight, and not just the class of the mechs.

[Joseph Mallan]

Sug, on 31 October 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

As a pugger, I beg you guys, please stop using the Awesome trial mech. You are just hurting your team

I know it's the biggest mech, but bigger does not always equal better. It's just awful:

1) Huge torso hit boxes.
2) Relatively light torso armor.
3) It's SLOW!
4) It counts as an assault mech (80 tons). So the other team will most likely get an Atlas(100 tons) to balance out the teams.
5) Only 12 shots of LRM ammo. So after a minute of firing, you're reduced to a giant slow target with 2 large lasers....

When I see an Awesome on the other team I giggle and rub my hands together with glee.

When there's one or, god forbid, multiple Awesomes on my team, I cry.

Please, please, please. Choose anything else. Try out the Raven and do some scouting. It will help your team much more than driving a free kill like the Awesome.

It also can throw a large amount of damage with it's LRMs for a short period of time then close and stomp the enemies you just softened up.

I have used the Awesome as an Assault pilot and a Missile Boat Captain I approve of this Mech as I get as many kills as I do in my Custom Atlas and I don't have to pay for repairs.

The OP does have a point though, you do not want to drive Just the Awesome, you could be missing out on finding you are actually a scout instead of Fire Support. SO do try various trial Mechs as they come out. You never know you may want to buy one and mod it to your personal style and rock the Successor Houses.

[Calmon]

Matchmaking should consider "battletech-points" besides ton. A trial altas should much less worth than I highly modified Atlas.

[Mylar]

Lot of people missing the point.
This is not a thread about the loadout of the trial Awesome.
This is a thread about matchmaking.

The Awesome is sorta like a madcat light, not terrible really. Soften things up with your LRMs and then brawl with the lasers...

The problem is the Awesome will be matched on the other team with another assault. When means something big and possibly optimized, in lots of cases an atlas.

The trial Awesome may be good, but a Founder's Atlas being piloted by a closed beta player, totally tricked out is going to drop that decent Awesome and three of his friends without breaking a sweat.

[BadKitty]

Simple math. 1 minute of LRM storm then empty. Large laser ranged support mech... Awesome.
yeah it sucks as a straight out slugger but the standard Awesome was never meant to be more than a ranged support mech and the trial version is just that. Honestly it does well if you use it carefully and I've won handily in the thing.. tho also in close quarters... I've been torn to ribbons..

[MechZ1lla]

Think this is bad?


Wait til the Mauler shows up...
*giggles with glee*

[silentD11]

All trial mechs are bad mechs. Any mech that is not customized is inferior to a tricked out build. Simply by picking a trial mech you are giving the other team an advantage. Fork over MC and buy a real mech.

[Joseph Mallan]

Mylar, on 31 October 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

Lot of people missing the point.
This is not a thread about the loadout of the trial Awesome.
This is a thread about matchmaking.

The Awesome is sorta like a madcat light, not terrible really. Soften things up with your LRMs and then brawl with the lasers...

The problem is the Awesome will be matched on the other team with another assault. When means something big and possibly optimized, in lots of cases an atlas.

The trial Awesome may be good, but a Founder's Atlas being piloted by a closed beta player, totally tricked out is going to drop that decent Awesome and three of his friends without breaking a sweat.

The only Atlas the trial Awesome cannot match is the Atlas D-DC or the 8Q(?4 LRMs) which can carry 3 LRMs. I have drove the trial Awesome and give it my Missile Boat Captain's approval.

[Sug]

Xantars, on 31 October 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

The Trial Awsome Isnt so bad if its played right with the proper team work...

...dont spam your LRM make your shots count..

..two Large lasers are pleny to fight with just watch your heat

play smart work with your team and never ever fight alone

wanderer, on 31 October 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

I frequently end up doing more in that "free kill" than the rest of the team will during a match...

You just don't have the LRMs to waste on low-odds shots.

LordBraxton, on 31 October 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

Make your LRMs count and you can do massive damage.

Joseph Mallan, on 31 October 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

It also can throw a large amount of damage with it's LRMs for a short period of time

I approve of this Mech as I get as many kills as I do in my Custom Atlas and I don't have to pay for repairs.

I see a lot of vets saying they can make the Awesome work in spite of itself. Awful mech aside, yes I guess my main problem with it is that it will usually get matched to a fully maxed out Atlas.

The worst case I've seen was our 4 trial Awesomes got matched to 4 Atlases. That's an 80 ton advantage. A free assault mech. That extra tonnage plus customization equals a loss.

At least if new players picked a lighter mech we wouldn't be at that great a disadvantage.

[Lyteros]

This topic made me litterally LOL.

The awesome is the only somewhat viable trialmech right now, and it sucks a lot. Does that not say pretty much everything about trials...?

Trials are broken, matchmaking is broken... it does not matter at all who drops with what, founders and premade always win. Choosing a even worse mech then the awesome will not help.

Its irrelevant if you get thrown against a maxed atlas or a maxed catapult or a maxed hunchback. Trials will always be the punching bag for the real mechs.

Edited by Lyteros, 31 October 2012 - 09:11 AM.