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[Sam Spartan]

I read "Far country" by Peter Rice a good half dozen times for the LAM Descriptions, despite the horrible bird aliens the story brought in.
I still cannot believe that they are canon.

[Mason Grimm]

LOL I got trolled by Paul and he doesn't even know it yet.

I made the image from platoon and stuck his head on it!!!

Is this thing on? Can anyone hear me?!?!!?!?!?!?

Clearly he hasn't seen it yet cause I still have forum access and he hasn't written my server host for a cease and desist order

[Der Basilisk]

First, let me say, that i don´t need LAMs in MWO, BUT, they are still canon. Word of Blake used some completely new ones in the Jihad. Didn´t help them much.

I think they can be a boon when you have to board a jumpship or a warship, but as long as MWO stays on the ground, there is no need for them.

[Coralld]

LAM's are indeed interesting in my humble opinion but no, they were never popular in the BT/MW history because they were VERY expensive to build and maintain. Also, when it comes to defensive capabilities they were pitiful, even by Light mech standards. Sure they give a tactical advantage against conventional forces such as infantry, Battle Armor, light armored vehicles and such, but as soon as a mech shows up even a Light mech like a Raven or Jenner it self would pose a threat and that LAM would have to GTFO, otherwise it faced the very likely chance of being killed. Even if the LAM did some how win, the damage done to it and the cost to repair would be staggering, you would be better of scrapping it and replace it with a wing of Helicopters or other VTOL aircraft for what it would cost to repair the LAM.

If LAMs were to ever be implemented in MWO which I find to be highly unlikely, I am sure people would flock to them, at first, but after a while people would simply get them as novelty peaces which is what they really are over actual using them as a weapon to wage war.

As for the comments on the Unseen mechs, yeah, we will most likely not see them but I am very confident that we will have their Reseen counterparts but most likely as mechs you would have to buy using real money, and all I have to say to that is this... My wallet is ready.

[Zaius Ex]

Coralld, on 22 April 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

LAM's are indeed interesting in my humble opinion but no, they were never popular in the BT/MW history because they were VERY expensive to build and maintain. Also, when it comes to defensive capabilities they were pitiful, even by Light mech standards. Sure they give a tactical advantage against conventional forces such as infantry, Battle Armor, light armored vehicles and such, but as soon as a mech shows up even a Light mech like a Raven or Jenner it self would pose a threat and that LAM would have to GTFO, otherwise it faced the very likely chance of being killed. Even if the LAM did some how win, the damage done to it and the cost to repair would be staggering, you would be better of scrapping it and replace it with a wing of Helicopters or other VTOL aircraft for what it would cost to repair the LAM.

If LAMs were to ever be implemented in MWO which I find to be highly unlikely, I am sure people would flock to them, at first, but after a while people would simply get them as novelty peaces which is what they really are over actual using them as a weapon to wage war.

As for the comments on the Unseen mechs, yeah, we will most likely not see them but I am very confident that we will have their Reseen counterparts but most likely as mechs you would have to buy using real money, and all I have to say to that is this... My wallet is ready.

+1 If they are implemented, I would get one mostly for the novelty of having it. Same with industrial mechs and quads.

Edited by Zaius Ex, 22 April 2012 - 09:58 AM.

[Pvt Dancer]

Paul Inouye, on 20 April 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Poor Paul... he is turning into the Rockstar at Piranha because he will be the only one we know due to being able to put a face to the name. I think we have our volunteer for the Con circut.

[wolf74]

I had a TOTALY crazy idea a way to get the Unseen in game as Unseen. Write up a Model Spec and Detail Level Need for the model to get in to game. Give Said Model Spec in a Public Offer to the Copyright holders of the Unseen Mechs/LAMs let them make the model in the game and put them in the Cash Store where every time one of us buys it they get there cut. Due to the fact they have to make the model & set there cut price in the store where they get paid. This should get around the legal problem of having them in game.

Edited by wolf74, 22 April 2012 - 10:20 AM.

[Hartsblade]

Paul Inouye, on 20 April 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Awesome Photshop skills!!

[UncleKulikov]

I'm okay with them not being in. Considering that they were ripped from another source, and that the tech of the era can't do some things, but can make a walking mech be able to transform and then fly doesn't sit well with me.

[Aidan Ramsdell]

Okay wow, did not expect to get such a big response! Besides, the only reason I'd get one would be either for the novelty of one or for the quick scouting role that I love to play!

[Hayashi]

Geist Null, on 22 April 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Lams are cool. but have little place on the battlefield even if devs could implament them. can you imagine the repair bill if you accidently ran into a steiner flying atlas scout?

That'd never take off the ground. Shilones are pretty famous for being squishy, unlike Atlases, and that's an AeroTech. Atlas level survivability, armament and flight don't combine very well.

GodxStatus, on 22 April 2012 - 06:31 AM, said:

LAMs would be a great addition. I dont think its a problem with the coding. Problem a balancing thing.

What's unbalanced about a faster version of a Light 'Mech that gets killed doubly as quickly if caught? The coding issue of having to program in flight mechanics is more of a hindrance, I'd think.

[Fiachdubh]

No LAMs please but Aerospace fighters would be nice (at some stage down the line).

[Xaks]

LAMS firstly would be a balance NIGHTMARE. Forget it.

In practical terms, just lots of no. Hell no. **** no. HELL ******* NO.

They're pants-on-head retardedly expensive, take 100 times the money and effort to maintain, they break 50 times more often than other aircraft types, AND what do they bring to the table that another aircraft or vehicle couldn't do better, cheaper, faster, etc? Oh, and the people needed to pilot them effectively are 100 times more expensive than mechawarriors OR aerospace pilots...and just as rare.

Look, I get it. They're 'neat' and all. But they just have no effective practical place in this game or most battletech scenarios. And even if you COULD come up with a scenario that a LAM could do that no other mech could, a chopper or traditional fixed wing or a ******* Harrier could do faster/cheaper/more effectively with better armor and more firepower.

[BL00D RAVEN]

I would rather have infantry than LAMs.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Hey Hans. I got to agree on the jets in BF3. I am an actual pilot of sorts. half hour in a cessna, but 15 YEARS flying RC SCALE MODEL AIRCRAFT and countless hours on various Microsoft Flight Simulators. It bugs me to NO END that when I bank at say a 45 degree angle that jet STILL heads in a straight bloody line, it should effing turn! AND the fact the players can slow those fighters to well below stall speed, not counting the f35.

[Phoenixfire]

While they are canon all I can think about is "Robotech" and not "Mechwarrior"

[Rejarial Galatan]

me,i still cant shake wing zero from MSGW

[Skylarr]

Hayashi, on 22 April 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

Skylarr, on 21 April 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

You will not find enough players who will want L.A.M.s

Challenge accepted. Tajuu kagebunshin no jutsu!

Lets see if player will pilot a LAM or any other vehicles if placed in MWO.

Edited by Skylarr, 22 April 2012 - 09:59 PM.

[pursang]

Where's the "none of the above" option for the second poll?

[Pel Morba]

I find the LAM concept intriguing, along with combined arms battles involving aerospace, battle armor, and tanks. I don't think traditionally off-board artillery will find many players as they'll just sit around waiting for someone to call in a fire mission. Artillery and air strikes should be a command option, but one executed by the AI for now.