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[WolfDragon Ghost]

In Mercenaries, that was very common to travel from one system to another for us mercenaries, but the questions is:


Since the game is in real time, I'll have to wait 2 weeks to reach my destination?

[UncleKulikov]

I hope not. Otherwise there would be all that time that you couldn't play.

[Evgeny Bear]

you can also hop from one jumpship to another recharged jumpship. I think its possible to use such a Jumpship network.

Edited by Andar89, 22 April 2012 - 10:40 AM.

[Listless Nomad]

Lol one end of the galaxy to the other would take months not weeks. It takes weeks to travel 60 light years (jump between two systems) due to recharge times of the jump drives.

This won't happen in the game though because it crosses the realism/fun barrier

[Helmer]

Although we have not had any official word how moving around will work it's doubtful the developers would make you wait such an extended period of time.

This is a game,after all, and the developers want you to participate in the metagame.


Cheers.

[GuntherK]

You hit a magic button and you get into the battle.
Its called magic space travel.
And it works just fine, thank you.

[WolfDragon Ghost]

Listless Nomad, on 22 April 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

Lol one end of the galaxy to the other would take months not weeks. It takes weeks to travel 60 light years (jump between two systems) due to recharge times of the jump drives.

This won't happen in the game though because it crosses the realism/fun barrier

I was thinking small missions throughout the trip but I like your answer more jajajajaja

[Shadow Lupine]

Doubtful, I think they will just call interplanetary or intersystem travel instant.

[Marowi]

The Milky Way Galaxy is approximately 120,000 ly in diameter. Traveling from one end to the other in 60 ly jumps would take 2,000 weeks, or 38.4 years.

[plodder]

Helmer, on 22 April 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

Although we have not had any official word how moving around will work it's doubtful the developers would make you wait such an extended period of time.

This is a game,after all, and the developers want you to participate in the metagame.


Cheers.

Ever played Spaceward ho? probably not. You could have weeks happen in game, and all you would see is the time it took, and play. Of course it was turn base, but each drop is in affect, a turn. A very fun or frustratic turn.

[Marowi]

Additional calculations:

1. The Inner Sphere (roughly 500 ly in diameter) can be crossed in a minimum of 9 jumps (63 days or roughly 2 months).
2. It takes a minimum of 34 jumps (238 days or nearly 8 months) to reach the Clan Homeworlds from Terra.

Edited by Marowi, 22 April 2012 - 11:27 AM.

[Lance Hawkins]

Actually, the Inner Sphere is 500 light years in radius and takes about 35 jumps to cross (each jump is 30 light years, not 60).

With standard jumpships it would take about 35 weeks to cross (on average it takes a week to recharge a jumpship).
If you are lucky to have state of the art LF-equipped jumpships it would take half that time, about 16 weeks.

Strana Mechty (the Clan homeworld capital) is about 1800 light years from Terra.

[Marowi]

You're right, the Inner Sphere is 1,000 ly in diameter. My mistake. Rough estimations would double travel time to 18 weeks, minimum--using less efficient jump drives would double it further to 36.

All my calculations were done assuming an average jump-distance of 60 ly. The Clan Homeworlds estimate was made assuming a flat 2,000 ly distance (because it was easier).

Edited by Marowi, 22 April 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[Helmer]

plodder, on 22 April 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Ever played Spaceward ho? probably not. You could have weeks happen in game, and all you would see is the time it took, and play. Of course it was turn base, but each drop is in affect, a turn. A very fun or frustratic turn.

This Spaceward ho http://en.wikipedia....ki/Spaceward_ho ? Yep, played it on a buddys computer.

It was, for the time, a great game. Just not sure how this relates? If you're inferring that the Devs could go the route of taking weeks of time in transit between planets, they very well could. As I stated, there hasn't been any official word.
They could very well only allow you to fight "mock battles" or simulations in that time period. It seems unlikely however that they would do so. Although i could be wrong.



Cheers,

[BarHaid]

WolfDragon Ghost, on 22 April 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

I was thinking small missions throughout the trip but I like your answer more jajajajaja

This makes the most sense. You "set" your final destination and have a battle on each world you come across on your journey there. That way if you play every day you fight on a bunch of other worlds before you get there, but if you play only on the weekends, you might hit only one or two other worlds.

This is assuming lone wolf status. If you're a merc or house unit you probably don't have much say in where you fight.

[Dragon Lady]

Marowi, on 22 April 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

You're right, the Inner Sphere is 1,000 ly in diameter. My mistake. Rough estimations would double travel time to 18 weeks, minimum--using less efficient jump drives would double it further to 36.

All my calculations were done assuming an average jump-distance of 60 ly. The Clan Homeworlds estimate was made assuming a flat 2,000 ly distance (because it was easier).

Not quite. Jumpships with lithium-fusion batteries aren't twice as fast as regular jump ships. They simply can make two jumps in a row, but will then need twice as long to recharge afterwords. The primary advantage of Li-F batteries is being able to make a second jump right away, not being able to move twice as quickly. Which means that a jump ship that finds itself jumping into an ambush at the nadir jump point will be able to jump out again, or a jumpship pursuing raiders can jump again if it guesses wrong about which star system they're jumping into. They're quick response transports, not fast transports.

Generally, if you want to travel across the Inner Sphere in a hurry, you make a "command circuit," which involves a chain of charged jumpships waiting at each jump point, while the drop ships move from jumpship to jumpship. This is generally considered quite expensive, because it ties up valuable resources and reduces a House's ability to respond quickly. But sometimes, getting assets on site quickly is more valuable than any other factor.

While I had hoped that Mechwarrior Online metagame would include these kind of things, I've long since given up hope on being able to play in a "realistic" Battletech Universe.

edit: darn typos
edit 2: darn freudian slips

Edited by Dragon Lady, 22 April 2012 - 02:11 PM.

[Zakatak]

Travelling between planets in Battletech is incredibly slow. A jumpship can move 30-60LY in a couple seconds, but takes about 100-200 hours to charge for the next jump. Since jump points are usually beyond 12AU from the star, it takes nearly a week to reach the planet you want to get to (accelerating at 1.25G to the halfway point and then flipping).

If this was done in realtime? Bleh.

Edited by Zakatak, 22 April 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[plodder]

Helmer, on 22 April 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

This Spaceward ho http://en.wikipedia....ki/Spaceward_ho ? Yep, played it on a buddys computer.

It was, for the time, a great game. Just not sure how this relates? If you're inferring that the Devs could go the route of taking weeks of time in transit between planets, they very well could. As I stated, there hasn't been any official word.
They could very well only allow you to fight "mock battles" or simulations in that time period. It seems unlikely however that they would do so. Although i could be wrong.



Cheers,

yep you guessed it, I was responding to the idea of it being difficult, no mock battles, the only ones that would need time variances acounted for would be those that always stayed on planet, or in system. The rest would be balanced. It is not important either way anyway.

[Gun Bear]

Its Mechwarrior online not Stronghold Kingdoms; I doubt waiting weeks to do one thing (exageration) will be in the formula.

[Phoenixfire]

While the metagame will be in real time I am sure travel and landing sequences will be faster so we don't have to wait for combat