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[Calculus]

Hello, I downloaded and began to play MWO a few days ago and immediatly, I was impressed by every aspect of the gameplay, the graphics, the dynamics, the classic controls, everything! I like the originality of the game, and it is still the best mech game in my opinion, but I also noticed how those who had paid for better mechs had a clear advantage over the F2P's they were battering in their shiny new mechs.

Then after I realised this, each game I played ended exactly like the last, usually meaning all the trial mechs had been blasted off the game in a matter of minutes, including me, by the highly over-powered mechs in which you had to purchase from the store. Then I saw no fun in the game and havent played it since. Me being a really big mech fan, I was kinda let down by this.

I would have been more comfortable to pay for the game upfront and then to unlock all the ingame features through an XP system, that way everyone has a chance to become powerful players!

So would you agree the game is a pay-2-win?

[Vulix]

No, because you can buy almost everything in cbills, it just takes longer to do than buying it in mc

edit: additionally, dying in trial mechs is probably more due to inexperience of players who pilot trial mechs than the mechs themselves.

Edited by Vulix, 11 November 2012 - 12:59 PM.

[Maglynn Hazen]

No.

[siLve00]

no it isnt.

its fine.. iam a no premium user.

you need like 25 games ( if you lose each match ) to buy your first "own" mech ... thats not realy much.

[Calculus]

I havent earnt a single cbill yet because i'm always wiped out by a paid mech!

[waysted]

The only advantage I can buy at the moment over any other OBT player (non-founder) is the Yen-Lo-Wang. Great, I can buy a medium mech that is one of the most sub-standard in the game that gives me what advantage again? I make money faster... I can pay to get other toys faster, but there is nothing that I can buy that is 100% better than another "free" (time ground) option.

[Ranger207]

Techniclly, no.

But I still want every non-Founder to get a free 'Mech...

[dF0X]

No. Also, you don't have to buy the mechs with money., they are available without spending money.

[Ashnod]

You probably got blown away cause your new, not because your in a trial, try to use tactics, cover, torso twist to spread damage - use enemy mechs to block fire from multiples if engaging more than one - make sure not to over heat! You can always try to hide behind cover even for a few seconds to dissipate some - make sure not to try to fire off cool down but more aim first and fire when your sure it will hit!

Also try to stick with your team or try to have team mates follow up on you, if no one else is leading than take the initiative and try to, sure some wont listen but hopefully at least a few will - don't give up home and this game surely isn't pay to win, there's no golden ammo or anything like that, everything besides yen lo's (fancy skin on a awful variant of the centurion) can be bought with cbills!

[dF0X]

Calculus, on 11 November 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

I havent earnt a single cbill yet because i'm always wiped out by a paid mech!

Impossible.

[Ashnod]

Calculus, on 11 November 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

I havent earnt a single cbill yet because i'm always wiped out by a paid mech!

You don't pay for repairs in a trial!

[Chemie]

I have 3 Atlas; 3 hunchies; and 15MM CB in the bank (and there isnt much other mechs I want to buy yet). Not sure what you mean?

[Naqel]

Pay to Win? Not at all.

Needlessly heavy on grind and overpriced? Absolutely.

[goneLinkdead]

Yes

The argument that everything can be purchased with in-game currency is not a valid one.

Pay to win is when I can shell out money and gain a signifigant advantage over someone who doesn't. In this case if I shell out 100 bucks I can purchase 5-8 mechs and a greatly increased c-bill earning rate. It would take a free player months of grinding to reach this point.

[Johnny Morgan]

No.

It's not pay to win and even if it was....so what?

It's pay to skip the grind, that's it.

Other than 1 mech (YLW) everything else is open to Free players. Don't crap all over me because I can afford to throw money to Premium time.

Anyone not getting at least 1 month of premium is an *****, it's cheap and makes the grind shorter.

[Adridos]

It's just the fact people in trial mechs usually don't know how to play very well and those mechs punish you for it harder than custom configs you'll make yourself later that fits you like a glove.

[byteu2]

It's team voice communication to win.

[Johnny Morgan]

Calculus, on 11 November 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

I havent earnt a single cbill yet because i'm always wiped out by a paid mech!

That isn't true, if you are using a trial mech you are getting c-bills with no repairs, it's pretty fast way to make cbills in the game.

[Shalune]

Vulix, on 11 November 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

No, because you can buy almost everything in cbills, it just takes longer to do than buying it in mc

edit: additionally, dying in trial mechs is probably more due to inexperience of players who pilot trial mechs than the mechs themselves.

Agreed on both points. Trial mechs are not going to be as effective at a specific playstyle as something you custom tune to your liking. However they're not nearly as bad as people say they are (well okay, some variants are trash, poor slow ravens...) The thing is that very few pilots that have their own mechs play in trial mechs proportionally, so you rarely see what they're really capable of. I've had good success with them myself and with better stock builds like the AWS-8T topped damage and kills on occasion.

[Tetatae Squawkins]

Does the new player experience suck? Yes.


Is it pay to win? No.