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[Secundus]

They should allow 3rd person cameras only in testing/training arenas if they ever implement them. Then you can get a feel for how your mech looks to others, get some nice 3rd person views of your camos, maybe get a better gauge for your mech's proportions (how arm shots may be getting blocked by terrain when near cover, etc.) , but I don't think you should be able to so in battles.

[Mad Pig]

3rd person view = easy button

[Rejarial Galatan]

ebea51, on 15 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

BAD idea.
3rd person camera IS NOT MECHWARRIOR.

Podcast said it was an IDEA. IDEA. IDEA.
Not 'official'. Not 'already done, its just to be released'... IDEA.
Theres YET to be anything about it.

Anyways, everyone playing in 3rd person will play for a while.
If they wanna get serious tho and get good, theyll all move into 1st person anyways.

idea, no, sounds like: we do not care that we said we would not do this, now, we will pander to those who cannot learn how this game works, we will not do the RIGHT thing and make a REAL tutorial, and, we will ignore all our players and say to hell with you guys, lets do this! oh, and, no way in hell will first person be used any more once they ignore us and give us third person. why? competitive edge, and keeping said edge.

[Vermaxx]

Hey there checking in on page 60 to remind you yet again that 3rd person will be based on a general feeling of what will sell the most MC and not what the 3000 forum goers care about.

Unless the 3000 forum goers who posted is basically the whole population right now, that is still a pretty small slice. And since they said it will be optional to use on every match, no I don't think we will be forced into it.

The min max people will go, and they can stay gone. If you feel like you have to follow them "to be competitive," then you go right ahead. The way I read said that I CAN use it in CW, or choose not to. Unless the 'choose not to' universe suddenly has no one to play with, then I'm not being forced into anything.

[DrBunji]

It's about bloody time the devs locks this, and give us an official response. Just suggesting this has probably hurt their PR, time for some damage control.

[Insidious Johnson]

if ONE person has the option has OPTION, then it is tactically mandatory for everyone else to follow suit. You can see around buildings, over hills, etc. in 3pv. 1 dude in 1pv means all dudes will need to, killing a pillar of the game: balance.

[Rejarial Galatan]

vermaxx, look at the posters who are saying this is gonna kill the game, we are the ones, who by and large dumped a ton of money into this game on blind faith, we are where the money can come from, if they respect us, but, the fact that Paul himself back in July said they would never do this, and now, they are saying they will, is well, a breach of trust, respect and an out and out betrayal of most of us, one that is damaging the company image. say what you will, but, the 3000+ of us saying do not do it, are who they need to listen to, not the few who refuse to learn the game mechanics like the rest of us did. short term, it may boost player base, but long term, its game ending. that simple.

Edited by Rejarial Galatan, 15 November 2012 - 09:44 PM.

[Rejarial Galatan]

probably hurt their PR? no probable about it. it has shattered what fragile trust we had in them in the first place. this is an out and out slap and spit in our faces, as the web site itself says its a FIRST PERSON game, and that Paul Inoyue the lead designer, even stated as much, proves PGI as a whole to be nothing more than a liar company that we should most likely not trust. But, you are right, time for them to show us they actually care about ANYTHING we have to say, and end this bad idea before it gets any further.

[Kobold]

Psydotek, on 15 November 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

Spectator? Yes.

Piloting? No.

Actually 3rd person spectator when dead would be EXCELLENT!

[GanjiBubbles]

NO 3rd person view plz... last thing we need is for a 8 player team sitting on the other side of a hill in LRM boats spotting us out cause their in 3rd person.. Does PGI go to work drunk every day? i ask because this is an AWFUL idea...

[Ghogiel]

Rejarial Galatan, on 15 November 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

it may boost player base,

Why would anyone really think that it would by any significant amount? Trying to compete with arcadey shooter games is probably not the best idea imo.

[00dlez]

Good news guys, PGI has decided to put in NHUA as well! It's okay though, you can chose to to use it if you dont want to.

Seriously? You want us to EXPLAIN in a constructive manner why 3rd person is a terrible idea? Because you hadn't read it 1,000 times before in all the suggestion threads of old? What an asinine thread. I have devoted time, energy and now MONEY to this game under the assumption that it would be runied before full release.

Kobold, on 15 November 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Actually 3rd person spectator when dead would be EXCELLENT!

For people in TS ghosting for their friends...

[Rejarial Galatan]

Ghogiel, on 15 November 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

Why would anyone really think that it would by any significant amount? Trying to compete with arcadey shooter games is probably not the best idea imo.

that was my failed attempt to sound as if this has any merit what so ever in the positive. this is a game killer, period.

[Sarah Dalrymple]

If PGI implements 3rd person view, it would completely ruin the immersion of the game for me and my husband. The only way I have ever played MechWarrior games was in 1st person view. Why? So that I could feel like I was a pilot in the cockpit of a 'Mech. Not as the 'Mech itself! Same for my husband.

PGI and IGP, please, please, PLEASE listen to your player base here. Obviously, the majority of your players do NOT want this change implemented, and several here (myself and my husband included) will demand refunds if you do include 3rd person view in this game. Without the funds of the player base your game will fail and it will probably be the end of ANY MechWarrior video games for another 10 years, if they are ever made again. Is this what you really want?

I can't speak for all the players in the forum, but as for me, if PGI or IGP insist on this change, I will not only demand a refund of money I spent on this game, I will be telling all of my friends that were looking forward to this game to not bother playing it and I will not buy any other games developed my PGI or published by IGP. That's not a threat from a temporarily unsatisfied customer, since I have sat here and been patient and let the developers make all sorts of changes that I didn't necessarily agree with, since they were staying as true to the franchise as possible while making the game suitable for multiplayer computer gaming -- this is the promise of someone who sees the straw that is breaking the camel's back.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Sarah, this will prove if they respect us, or ignore us, and it WILL kill the game if they do this. no way around it.

[Zynk]

Right now C centers the torso to your legs change it so the legs a centered to your torso or add another function that does.

I DO NOT want to ask for my money back so please do not put me in that position!

[Rejarial Galatan]

I put my 60 bucks into this game about 5 minutes after the founders packages went on sale in june. I had already been in beta for a short while, and was happy to contribute, hell, I had planned on doing that anyway, beta invite or not. I was even willing to accept a delay of Community warfare for a while, because hey, some other things are more important to fix. But, my faith began to fail when I saw the first lie. The end date of Founders Sales. They sailed right past that, and extended it for more than a month iirc. Then, yesterday. All faith, ALL OF IT, was removed when the 2nd lie came to light. The potential inclusion for third person cameras. Sorry, but this broke my faith. I am WILLING to give you a little leeway on this, in the hopes, you guys really do give a crap about what we say or think, but, I like Zynk above me, really do not want to be in a position to ask for my money back. I know more than a few of us are in this boat.

[nuttycide]

No to 3rd person. I can give many reasons, but if you have read through the topic, all of them have been said. Instead give a practice mode or better yet allow the first 10-30 games for new players to be up against other new players, that way they don't get slaughtered by the rest of the commuinty.

[Ghogiel]

Rejarial Galatan, on 15 November 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

that was my failed attempt to sound as if this has any merit what so ever in the positive. this is a game killer, period.

I get that you, me, and most of the people on the forums don't like it, and probably can't imagine why it would improve people wanting to pay/play, but what are the devs smoking to make them think it would is what I want to know?

[Bandolur]

Very bad idea. The game is not a shooter like CoD.

The cool thing is beeing inside the Mech. If you do 3rd person view it would spoil everything. You would have to use 3rd person to better see behind and around you. In my opinion the advantage of seeing behind you would lead to force some players to play in 3rd person.

I like the slow torso twist and not seeing whats behind me in a heavy mech. I like playing a Scout mech and dodging the Atlas and he doesn't know what hit him.

Please, if you want to copy WoT then plz copy the good things, like more exp 1 time per day or other stuff.

If you want to give the player the "cinematic feeling" then let him switch to 3rd person view AFTER he dies.

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