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[Jarovit]

As a new player the lack of the 3rd person view isn't my barrier to entry for this game.

One of my struggle is the lack of information about the game. The website doesn't have an explanation of the weapons; how much damage is done, heat generated, ect. I haven't purchased my first mech yet, and adding 3rd person view isn't going to get me to spend real dollars in this game. You have two videos on the website right now, and near as I can tell they were community created. Give me some information that I don't have to dig through the forums to find.

[ComradeK]

It is simple: MWO doesn`t need 3d person view. It`ll ruin balance and, in general, atmosphere.
Otherwise, MWO really needs training grounds for noobs (where they can handle legs and torso positioning, firing), or proper matchmaking (that uses BW of Mechs and skill of pilots, at least - number of battles he\she fought, win or loose and K/D ratio).

[Benlor]

I am fairly new to Mechwarrior Online and am still learning to play, but have a feeling to answer the implementation of 3rd person view. Thinking about what the game would be like when it had 3rd person view from the beginning of when I started to play, I'd think I would never have used the 1st person view. And I think I would really have missed out feeling like a Mechwarrior and more like piloting a huge robot.
I think one has to decide wether this is a game about Mechwarriors or about huge fighting robots...

[o0Marduk0o]

Rejarial Galatan, on 15 November 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

idea, no, sounds like: we do not care that we said we would not do this, now, we will pander to those who cannot learn how this game works, we will not do the RIGHT thing and make a REAL tutorial, and, we will ignore all our players and say to hell with you guys, lets do this! oh, and, no way in hell will first person be used any more once they ignore us and give us third person. why? competitive edge, and keeping said edge.

You have still problems with reading and understanding.
They NEVER said that there won't be 3rd person view! When do you get this into your head?

[sh4rpedge]

My opinion on this matter is strictly NO.

Adding a 3rd person view to this game will take away the feeling of piloting a mech and as other ppl have said, you can just go to 3rd person and peek around corners.

[Edison Chen]

This patch.. A mech, and pay to color your mech, and 3pv. Is it just me or does it seem they adding very shallow things?

Even the last new map was recycled off a old one..

Seems shallow and cheap to me. I just wish they fix the real problems but doesn't seem wil do that for a long time.

Good luck everyone, lets hope they don't ruin this game la.

[Like a Sir]

One thing that speaks volumes to me: people coming out of the woodwork to speak up on this issue... That silent "Majority", that the 4-5% say, want the 3PV, are starting to show up here just to say their piece.. I am not talking about people with one post, and no tag (no offence to you guys, I'm sure most of you are genuine accounts who just never posted before, I know that some will just be alt accounts created today though, or yesterday), but I am talking about founders with less then 10 posts, who never bothered going on the forums before.

If you go through the last couple of pages, you will notice that they actually took time to get on here, and tell you that your idea is frankly ****...

So take what you will from it, if you are still trying to say, it's just the 500 people on the forums, who always rage, and whose opinion doesn't matter. Well then go for it, implement the 3PV, I would seriously consider consulting with someone, who doesn't have ADD, and maybe has a statistics, or possibly even a business/marketing degree.

Best of luck to ya, not gonna lie, hope you scrap that and tell us soon, people are getting pretty restless.

[Zerberoff]

Put up another Hitbox right at the 3rd Person Cam wich get instandly cored when beeing hitted... then i agree to 3rd Person View

[Bishop Steiner]

o0Marduk0o, on 16 November 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

You have still problems with reading and understanding.
They NEVER said that there won't be 3rd person view! When do you get this into your head?

actually they did. "Ask the Devs", several times had addressed that.

[o0Marduk0o]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 November 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

actually they did. "Ask the Devs", several times had addressed that.

Paul said that there will be no 3rd person "out of the box" and in the near future but they will look into possibilities to add it. Russ said now that they plan to add 3rd person for certain game modes but not for "serious" games.
They are not contradicting themselves, period.

[SgtMaster]

maybe it is just me, but i cannot find the poll button...

3rd view doesnt prevent us from using 1st view, so my immersion remains.
if applied in trial mechs or different servers where cbills n experience is reduced, and if it bring more players to the game, its all good.

[Boswelli]

SergalBait, on 15 November 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

I was promised a first person mechwarrior.

You bought yourself into a BETA game, and now are you dissatisfied with the way it goes? Uhm, strange, but i guess someone must have forced you to do this and it's never your fault, nobody could be this stupid, right?

btw, they didn't say they will cut the 1st person view, they will just ADD a 3rd one, so you still have your "first person mechwarrior". You were never promised you will get a "first person mechwarrior ONLY", you just thought it but the devs aren't responsible for what you thought

[Like a Sir]

SgtMaster, on 16 November 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

maybe it is just me, but i cannot find the poll button...

3rd view doesnt prevent us from using 1st view, so my immersion remains.
if applied in trial mechs or different servers where cbills n experience is reduced, and if it bring more players to the game, its all good.

Messaged you the link to the thread, but just in case : here is the link http://mwomercs.com/...son-its-coming/

[Squarefox]

3rd person is one of the worst things that can happen to a mech game. It would bring too many advantages to those, who would use it - therefore everyone had to use it. This perspective would bring much lesser realism and tactics and so would be terrible.

[Red Klown X]

3rd person ,only in pug game ?

[Vassago Rain]

Ghogiel, on 15 November 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

I get that you, me, and most of the people on the forums don't like it, and probably can't imagine why it would improve people wanting to pay/play, but what are the devs smoking to make them think it would is what I want to know?

Panic move, most likely.

[o0Marduk0o]

Squarefox, on 16 November 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

3rd person is one of the worst things that can happen to a mech game. It would bring too many advantages to those, who would use it - therefore everyone had to use it. This perspective would bring much lesser realism and tactics and so would be terrible.

OMG there won't be mixed perspectives in games.

[Sarevos]

00dlez, on 15 November 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Good news guys, PGI has decided to put in NHUA as well! It's okay though, you can chose to to use it if you dont want to.

Seriously? You want us to EXPLAIN in a constructive manner why 3rd person is a terrible idea? Because you hadn't read it 1,000 times before in all the suggestion threads of old? What an asinine thread. I have devoted time, energy and now MONEY to this game under the assumption that it would be runied before full release.


For people in TS ghosting for their friends...

yea they can do that now though just less effectively no one said you get camera control though. Anyway i think you should be able to spectate matches of other players with a 2 to 3 minute delay with 3rd person that would be interesting

Edited by Sarevos, 16 November 2012 - 01:46 AM.

[Draigan]

o0Marduk0o, on 16 November 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

OMG there won't be mixed perspectives in games.

The main problem with that is it now splits the relatively small playerbase even more meaning longer wait time for matches and less variety in players, it generally has bad results in games with smaller communities

[Yigyam]

Honestly, after helping some people that are completely new to the series, I believe that 3rd person could help a newbie get used to the torso twist system. I think the way you guys are planning on implementing it is pretty unintrusive to the real meat and potatoes of the game, while still being a good learning tool.

Came in as a skeptic, but I think you have a good implementation worked out. Good on you.

Edit: Its not a substitute for an ingame tutorial, though. Even a bare bones one is a must.

Edited by Stavros Mueller, 16 November 2012 - 01:58 AM.