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#1521 Sirous

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

The only place that third person may come in handy, is if you actually brought in a training grounds and not against other players.

#1522 SirLANsalot

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

.......3rd person will be fine if they keep the same spotting rules as we have now. Would bring no advantage over first person.

#1523 Gimpy Warpig

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

Absolutely, add 3rd Person option. It should have been there from the start, instead of listening to all these whiney little FFP freaks. I would include the option to join either a 1st or 3rd person view game.

I've enjoyed both gametypes for years now, and probably prefer 3rd person as the competition level in those games are EXTREMELY MORE COMPETETIVE than most of the noobrushing 1st person games. Though to be honest, competetive games can be had in the upper echelons of team play regardless of view - its just a simple fact that the better players prefer 3rd person.

3rd person would be a great add.

Don't listen to the FFP'ers whining about quitting the game - they are addicts, much like most of us here, to anything Mech and as long as they can still play in their forced first person matches they will continue to do so. I've spent what must be more than a dozen years arguing this same stupid argument with them - and looky looky, they are all still here shooting away.

#1524 Kunae

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

View PostSoy, on 14 November 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

This is MechWarrior Online. This is not XYZ.

PGI has a right to decide what is best for MechWarrior Online, which does not have to meet the expectations certain players from XYZ have for MechWarrior Online.

If they wanted to make XYZ, they wouldn't have made MechWarrior Online at all. They would've reincarnated XYZ the way it was "before it was ruined".

But this is MechWarrior Online. This is not XYZ.

And 91% of the forum-going player-base has the right to choose to not participate, should PGI choose to implement something they do not like.

That must be weighed against all other things.

#1525 Blackfire87

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

Hey guys just thought i should add my 2 cents here. I was not a huge Mechwarrior fan before this game. What really sold me on it was the role warfare and the fact that you play the pilot inside the mech not the mech its self. Adding a 3rd person view is going to radically shift how the game is played. Why even bother with scouts when you can sit behind a hill and peak around with your camera? Adding the 3rd person is going to cause you guys to have to leave behind the "thinking mas shooter" title you all like to throw around. Instead of doing something drastic lets add a in game tutorial and just teach new players how to play.

Keep up the good work PGI!!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

Just enable Third Person view for the trial mechs only if they want to help the new players get used to mech twisting.

#1527 TheShadowWalker

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

If you add 3rd person i will NOT play MWO. And will promptly request my Legendary founders refunded. as i haven't and will not use my MC and premium time until it's clear that there Will NOT be a 3rd person view.

#1528 Noth

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostGimpy Warpig, on 14 November 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

I've enjoyed both gametypes for years now, and probably prefer 3rd person as the competition level in those games are EXTREMELY MORE COMPETETIVE than most of the noobrushing 1st person games. Though to be honest, competetive games can be had in the upper echelons of team play regardless of view - its just a simple fact that the better players prefer 3rd person.


What? The most successful competitive games are isometric currently. Before that I can't think of a single 3rd person game that topped FPS games in competitiveness. I suggest you actually do your researh before speaking up.

Edited by Noth, 14 November 2012 - 05:26 PM.


#1529 Zylo

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostSoy, on 14 November 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

This is MechWarrior Online. This is not XYZ.

PGI has a right to decide what is best for MechWarrior Online, which does not have to meet the expectations certain players from XYZ have for MechWarrior Online.

If they wanted to make XYZ, they wouldn't have made MechWarrior Online at all. They would've reincarnated XYZ the way it was "before it was ruined".

But this is MechWarrior Online. This is not XYZ.

Mechwarrior Online currently has forced first person view so why are YOU in favor of changing it?

It's players like you who ruin good games because you can't accept a game in it's current state or maybe the current state is just too difficult for you.

#1530 Past

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

I dont want 3rd person it would be a bad thing. If people wish to play 3rd person to get to grips with the mech behaviour i belive Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries is free download these days old and dated but a good place to go cut their teeth on piloting in an enjoyable single player campaign.

#1531 Zeus X

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

Still a HUGE NO!!!


http://mwomercs.com/...son-its-coming/

Edited by DCM Zeus, 14 November 2012 - 05:27 PM.


#1532 DeadlyNerd

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

Wow, 3rd PV just so newbs can learn how to pilot a mobile turret.

So I'm guessing people are too dumb to utilize the center torso button or read from the indicators on the HUD compass thing.

#1533 CeeKay Boques

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

View PostEndersGame, on 14 November 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

Just enable Third Person view for the trial mechs only if they want to help the new players get used to mech twisting.


Hmmm....

#1534 USMC Iceman

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

If this games goes 3rd person view I will want a refund. And will never play this game again

#1535 Scorm

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

Please, if you are concerned about the ability of people to play this game then make better tutorials and put in a arena/map where players can LEARN how to pilot a mech without being killed in a game. After not having played a mech based game in who know how many years It only takes a few games to get used to piloting.

#1536 Kamatayan

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

If it was some marketing executives idea to put that feature in, please give him a sharp kick to the nuts. This is mechwarrior, not call of duty.

Focus on the bugs/ net code/ metagame please.

#1537 Bogus

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

I'm totally fine with adding third person view, previous MW games have it, but forcing people to use it is the dumbest thing I've heard all week. And I'm a .NET developer so I heard dumb stuff on a regular basis.

#1538 ThePhil

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

Absolutely not.

I'm thinking about life after MWO just hearing that 3rd person is a possibility.

I could understand using it for all of 30 seconds while a disembodied voice states in a training video, "This is your mech. Note how the torso is able to twist independently of the legs."

<Enable split screen, retaining 3rd person in the first half, with 1st person in the second half>
<Rotate mech upper torso>
<Move forward and backward>
<Move while rotating torso>
<Move forward, turn left/right while rotating torso>

Beyond that 3rd person would completely destroy the feel of combat.

#1539 TruePoindexter

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostKunae, on 14 November 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

And 91% of the forum-going player-base has the right to choose to not participate, should PGI choose to implement something they do not like.

That must be weighed against all other things.


91% of the forum-going player-base right now is weighing in at a mighty 38 logged in users on this thread - you can see the number of people watching this thread below. This entire forum only had 292 logged in users in the last 15 minutes. Even multiplying those numbers 10 fold to account for offline users it's not what I would call a major economic force.

#1540 Pht

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostSoy, on 14 November 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

This is MechWarrior Online. This is not XYZ.

PGI has a right to decide what is best for MechWarrior Online, which does not have to meet the expectations certain players from XYZ have for MechWarrior Online.


They have the right to implement the game the way they want to, simply because they have control of the IP rights that allow them to do so.

That, however, doesn't mean they can do anything they darn well please with the game and expect everyone to think the game they have made meets the definition of "Mechwarrior."

View PostGimpy Warpig, on 14 November 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Absolutely, add 3rd Person option. It should have been there from the start, instead of listening to all these whiney little FFP freaks.


The best counter-argument you can offer is to call the opposing side "whiney freaks?"

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... its just a simple fact that the better players prefer 3rd person.


You are mistaking your opinion for a fact. A fact is something that is a given that is not derived from any other idea.

Part of the reason there is SO much backlash vs 3pv is because of posts like this one you've just made.

Edited by Pht, 14 November 2012 - 05:32 PM.






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