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[VoodooLou Kerensky]

Some of the Reaved and Annihilated Clans People aregoing to escape the devestation of their Clan. Thats where Clan Black Sheep comes into play. For viability recall that Minnesota Tribe is believed to be some of the Remnants of Wolverine. It might not be Canonical but temper it in a bit of common sense, The Bandit Caste has been around since the Founding, it has members from across all the Clans and all of the Castes. How does something survive being outside of the Societal Norms? By any means necessary. As much as has been written about the Clans, let alone BattleTech Lore, the one thing repeated over and over is that one way or another Humanity perservers, wether in the Light of Society or Outside of it.

Great Work Jaroth Corbett and StormWolf!

[Jaroth Corbett]

Removed Marks as a Bloodname.

Added the following Bloodnames:

M


Mengual, Celia CBS
Messi, Hrysopiyi CBr
Min-Jae, Motoko CBr
Mitts, Levi CCC
Maybank, Kallas CCy
Malone, Lucia CFM
Madsen, David CGS
Mortelette, Jason CGS
Mazzoni, Daima CHH
Moiseyev, Vadims CHH
Mezgebu, Tashan CIH
Mi-Ran, Jose CIH
Manaudou, Bryan CMn
Matsuda, Yevgeniya CMn
Mercedes, Duncan CMn
Milton-Jones, Zhong CMn
Marsh, Karoline CDS
Mirazi, Tobias CDS
McKenzie, Victoria CSR
Merrell, Layne CSR
Mikhaylov, Larisa CSA
Mutola, Svetlana CWm
Mann, Walter CWv
Matsunaka, Georgy CWv
Meriño, Nazmi CWv
Mroczkiewicz, Kirsten CWv


So since there are 26 letters in the alphabet & M is number 13, this means that I have completed 50% verification of the Bloodnames.

I will make available to download, the list at 50%, take a long break & get back just playing MWO & having fun. After a certain time has passed that I feel comfortable with, I will complete the remaining 50%.

http://www.4shared.c...odnames__L.html

Yes it is 4shared & yes you have to have an account to download links now. I know it was not like that in the past, but they changed it. I do not use Dropbox anymore because their Free Account has 2GB of strage space as opposed to 4shared which has 15GB. It was a no brainer. I can e-mail the list directly to anyone who wants it, upon request.

Now back to the pew pew.


EDIT: The list I put up yesterday, had an error in it. I just corrected it & re-uploaded the list. Sorry about that.

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 16 June 2013 - 05:15 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

OK so my break is over & I am resuming work on the Bloodname Project. I am going to work backwards though, from Z to N. Here goes.


Added the following Bloodnames:


Z

Žukauskas, Katerina CBr
Zeevi, Eero CGB
Zuijdweg, Kang CHH
Zongliang, Jin CMn

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 12 August 2013 - 12:11 PM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Added the following Bloodnames:

Y

Yong-Ho, Kevin CBr
Yatchenko, Yuliya CCC
Young, Laura CMn
Yuli, Jeff CMn
Yoshida, André CSJ
Yang, Ilse CSR
Yingqing, Ásgeir CSR
Yabune, Tracy CSA
Yanev, Zou CSV
Yun, Natalia CWm

X

Xi, Sui CWv

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 15 August 2013 - 09:57 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Removed Writh as a Bloodname.

Added the following Bloodnames:

W

Weber-Gale, Roman CCy
Weißenborn, Sergio CGB
Wagner, Antonio CGS
Weißenborn, Krisztián CHH
Wells, Chika CWm
Werth, Elsie CWm
Whitfield, Oleksandr CWv

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 08 October 2013 - 12:12 AM.

[Spike Brave]

Wales Grey, on 20 March 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Eugenics is a mostly discredited science and is on extremely shaky ethical ground for reasons clearly enumerated in Battletech cannon:

• The products of eugenics, when attempting to control a non-physical trait, are not demonstrably superior to people produced in an unregulated state.
  
• Eugenics establishes the concept of "superior" and "inferior" genetics as supposedly scientific truth. This is all but guaranteed to lead to discrimination and maltreatment of "genetic inferiors.

The adoption of eugenics programs and Bloodnames by the Clans is little more than the enshrinement of the warrior caste as de facto nobility.

I would like to add that the Clan eugenics program was largely a failure. Aerospace fighter pilots were terrible and Mechwarriors weren't really any better than their IS counterparts. I guess they got it right if Elementals. They are huge, but in a battlefield dominated by BattleMechs, not really worth the resources that goes into a program like that.

[CrashieJ]

quick tip

Comstar does in fact use clones

[Jaroth Corbett]

Spike Brave, on 07 October 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

I would like to add that the Clan eugenics program was largely a failure. Aerospace fighter pilots were terrible and Mechwarriors weren't really any better than their IS counterparts. I guess they got it right if Elementals. They are huge, but in a battlefield dominated by BattleMechs, not really worth the resources that goes into a program like that.

Wrong. The source material disagrees with you.



Wolf Sourcebook - Pg.43

Quote

Placing his palms flat on the desk, Wolf leaned forward. "Now the two of us will become your instructors. Some of you have already seen battle, but even with that, the total sum of experience of those seated at this table would not equal what the average Clan warrior goes through in his training."

Blood of Kerensky Trilogy - Book 2 - Blood Legacy

As far as the Elementals go, there are numerous sources proving the success of the Elemental phenotype. Unfortunately, I just woke up & my vacation officially starts today so I am not going to look for them to screenshot or copy & paste. suffice it to say, take my word for it.................surprise you are wrong & the source material disagrees with you. There is an entire chapter detailing the Elementals in Era Report 3052 entitled Death From Below. Read it when you get a chance. I may go into details regarding the Elementals should I feel so inclined but yeah VACATION!

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 08 October 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[HugoStiglitz]

To bad the clans lose that 'invasion' of theirs, otherwise the Star League could have come back. Oh, wait. The Inner Sphere does that anyway. Oh well, at least you have those handful of better than average pilots.

[Joseph Mallan]

Clan Bloodname list
You are welcome.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Thanks but no thanks. As usual with Sarna, it is incomplete & more importantly, inaccurate.

Added the following Bloodnames:

V

Vardanyan, Terry CBS
van Belkum, Aleksandr CMn
Vandenberg, Andreas CDS
Viard, Obadele CDS
Valério, Walton CSA
Vajda, Nate CWm

Changed Uston to Ustone.

Added the following Bloodnames:

U

Ugás, Vsevolods CJF
Urzica, Taylor CWm
Uchimura, Steven CFM

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 08 October 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Jaroth Winson, it has been quite some time since I read Operation Klondike.

Also, you need to earn the Winson name! I mean after all, no Clan warrior has a Bloodname unless he or she has proven themselves worthy of the honor.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 09 October 2013 - 04:08 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Interesting that you mention these things.

1. You knew what I was referring to yet somehow you still link Sarna which everyone knows I use to wipe my *** with.

2. I am waiting on PGI to allow a name change so I can alter it to the Bloodname I did earn.

Will there be anything else?

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 09 October 2013 - 05:56 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Jaroth Winson, on 09 October 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

Interesting that you mention these things.

1. You knew what I was referring to yet somehow you still link Sarna which everyone knows I use to wipe my *** with.

2. I am waiting on PGI to allow a name change so I can alter it to the Bloodname I did earn.

Will there be anything else?

1) Its because I haven't read(much less looked at) the OpKlondike in about 5 years, so I have an excuse for not remembering. ;)Also It may not be perfect, but Sarna is a good reference.

2) You may have earned a Bloodname in the past, but this isn't the past. And PGI would be smart to have Clanners earn their Bloodnames here and now. Otherwise, my daughter can also claim the Kerensky Bloodname she won 12 years ago, at the age 10.

[Jaroth Corbett]

1. A source used as a reference to validate someone's posts must be unimpeachable & from way back when, I found Sarna to be inaccurate. Your version of a good source & mine are different.

2. Unlike a rank, a Bloodname earned is yours until you choose not to use it anymore. An honor won in the fire of combat cannot be taken away unless of course the lore way. There are those that choose to do over a ToB & that is their choice, there are those that do not & that is their choice as well. I can see both sides of the coin but both options are up to the individual & their decision is to be respected even if you do not like it.

[Joseph Mallan]

Jaroth Winson, on 09 October 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

1. A source used as a reference to validate someone's posts must be unimpeachable & from way back when, I found Sarna to be inaccurate. Your version of a good source & mine are different.

2. Unlike a rank, a Bloodname earned is yours until you choose not to use it anymore. An honor won in the fire of combat cannot be taken away unless of course the lore way. There are those that choose to do over a ToB & that is their choice, there are those that do not & that is their choice as well. I can see both sides of the coin but both options are up to the individual & their decision is to be respected even if you do not like it.

1) What ever.

2) You have not won a Bloodname in this game. No previous games should hold sway on this one. What you were capable of in a previous game may not hold true here. PGI does not have to honor FASA, FanPro or CatLab events if they so choose. So until you battle for and win the Winson name in MWO you are only a poser.

[CyclonerM]

Joseph Mallan, on 09 October 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

2) You have not won a Bloodname in this game. No previous games should hold sway on this one. What you were capable of in a previous game may not hold true here. PGI does not have to honor FASA, FanPro or CatLab events if they so choose. So until you battle for and win the Winson name in MWO you are only a poser.

I don't agree on this point. PGI seems trying to kill the Battletech / MechWarrior soul from this game, but it's still part of the MW series. I feel all these games are part of the same universe thus i feel my "character" is unique: if i earned a Bloodname in a ToB back in the 90s, i do not see any reason it should be forgotten. "Untill we all shall fall" has a meaning IMHO.

I know many players are part of the same Clan since MW2, playing every game after it. Every game may be different..But if you want to respect Clan law, the warrior who has earned a Bloodname has the right to bear it until he dies..

Anyway, it is not very easy yet to do custom events by the players, we have no tools to organize a drop in a private server, something may be ocoming but until then we should have to field at least 16 contenders and this is not something you can do easily. The last time we tried to organize a ToB in our Clan there were not enough interested warriors..

So if you won a Bloodname in MW4, MW2 or even in Battletech, it shall stand until we all are dust.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Joseph Mallan, on 09 October 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

1) What ever.

2) You have not won a Bloodname in this game. No previous games should hold sway on this one. What you were capable of in a previous game may not hold true here. PGI does not have to honor FASA, FanPro or CatLab events if they so choose. So until you battle for and win the Winson name in MWO you are only a poser.

1. Yeah facts are kinda hard to argue are they not?

2. Thankfully that is your opinion which I do not give two ***** about seeing as it holds no sway over my life in any way, shape or form. Have a good day.

[Joseph Mallan]

Jaroth Winson, on 09 October 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

1. Yeah facts are kinda hard to argue are they not?

2. Thankfully that is your opinion which I do not give two ***** about seeing as it holds no sway over my life in any way, shape or form. Have a good day.

1) Actually It isn't worth the arguing, as I said Sarna is fine for a quick reference with acceptable credibility

2) Being that from one Publisher to the next Bloodnames were not transferable. I was told to ignore the Old Mechforce recipients claims back when I was a FanPro Commando, So unless PGI has given you your Bloodname, your claim should be considered void. Or at least it should be in MechWarrior. Also if it was not gained in a sanctioned event by a Official Rep, it is also considered void. Bloodnames Trials are held by Official game reps. I know, I officiated 3 Trials {2 Jade Falcon(Hazen & Binetti) and one Wolf(Karns)}. Have a great day.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 09 October 2013 - 08:23 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

1. Actually there is no argument. A source that has proven on many occasions to be incorrect is not credible.

2. Again that is your opinion which means nothing to me. Have a marvelous day.