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[Chemie]

Garth said he would post....but no post.

[Galenit]

Sevaradan, on 15 November 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

Can we limit pugs to 1 per side instead? Having to run with 4 of them running in circles shooting snow, suiciding etc is un-fun.

But then you have to pay the devs.
What do they need every month?

How much is it for you, when 90% of the playerbase is out of game?

I guess you have the 1000-5000$ you will have to pay them every month ...

Drive the pug and new players away and you get what you want, no playing with pugs and noobs anymore.
Bu this means no playing at all because the game is dead.

Edit:
If you really like this game, do all for new players, help them to stay in, then the money come in and the game go on. Its simple, maybe to simple for some simple people.

Edited by Galenit, 17 November 2012 - 06:19 AM.

[Reoh]

The team that wins, has LOTS of assists shared across most if not all players.

It's that simple.

[Khobai]

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Garth also said that true DHS let him kill an atlas in 3 seconds. Presumably using weapons with about a 3 second recycle time.

I dont see how thats even possible. Even if youre shooting an Atlas in the back it takes a minimum of 2 hits to get a kill. Which is at least 6 seconds.

[Sevaradan]

Galenit, on 17 November 2012 - 06:10 AM, said:

But then you have to pay the devs.
What do they need every month?

How much is it for you, when 90% of the playerbase is out of game?

I guess you have the 1000-5000$ you will have to pay them every month ...

Drive the pug and new players away and you get what you want, no playing with pugs and noobs anymore.
Bu this means no playing at all because the game is dead.

Edit:
If you really like this game, do all for new players, help them to stay in, then the money come in and the game go on. Its simple, maybe to simple for some simple people.

better a dead game than a ****** one, and that's what they'll end up with if they keep caving into the casuals on BS like 3rd person, and screwing the core players with stuff like MM phase 1

Edited by Sevaradan, 17 November 2012 - 07:04 AM.

[RedHairDave]

Lorcan Lladd, on 16 November 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

You know full well that you usually drop with three other people from your clan/mercenary corp, which makes it much easier to get the puggers on board - not that your disposition and ability to lead them don't make a difference, of course; they assuredly do.

But I've lost count of how many times a pug team I was a part of has been defeated just because the rest of the puggers didn't listen, either to me or whomever else tried to direct them.
Even when specifically addressed, some just ignored any instructions and did whatever they felt like.

Capture the enemy base which lies within a hundred meters from our current position?
No, I think we'll just split up and chase four distinct enemy 'Mechs simultaneously!

i cant agrue with that, i do drop mostly with 3. and you make a good point, the elo system would change everything, i think it would be for the best. although i dont know. also another good point, some people just refuse to listen. and of course afk'ers.


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Sandpit, on 16 November 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

It's not about getting them to "vet" status at that point though. It's about getting them to enjoy the game and see how much fun it can be. Once they're hooked and have a few games under their belt and have a basic understanding of how to pilot mechs they won't do as poorly against experienced players and will have a more enjoyable experience overall. It shouldn't be about "making them better" it should be about letting the enjoy the game without getting stomped. Once they see that the game can be competitive and ELO MM is implemented they will have more fun and play more often and retain more new players overall in my opinion

you also make very good points. there does need to be a training mode of some kind. there should be a system to put high success people against high success people. base it off win rate alone maybe, i dont know how they work. it could be hard for the matchmaker, but every game would be a nail biter in theory. although i dont know, seeing how the devs havent done what seems like a simple math equation mm system, it seems to me there must be a logical reason that it doesnt work...right.

Reoh, on 17 November 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

The team that wins, has LOTS of assists shared across most if not all players.

It's that simple.

this is so very true, if they had this stat also
http://mwomercs.com/...__fromsearch__1
then it would be very simple for new players to see what it takes to win. i want that instead of damage done. just how many assists did you get, and how much damage did you absorbe.

[Sandpit]

They've done the mat, I really believe they have. They are tweaking the MM system and working on incorporating ELO into it as well. I think just a few minor changes they have planned will change MM completely and we will see a completely different gaming experience after this. Let them get the MM system phases implemented first and then go from there

Also, assists are way easy to get at this point. I can run through in a scout and shoot each mech one time early in the match and then every mech that gets killed will grant me an assist.

I see the basis behind lots of players on the winning team getting an assist though. It's usually because they are working together and focusing fire.

[Rifter]

Vermaxx, on 15 November 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Garth also said that true DHS let him kill an atlas in 3 seconds. Presumably using weapons with about a 3 second recycle time.

Meaning he was able to (at ABSOLUTE LONGEST) two shot an Atlas in a Jenner. So far I haven't heard anyone come here and report having replicated that.

Yeah at this point taking garths words as absolute truth might not be so smart.