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#1 VoltarDark

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:07 PM

Alert : Missiles go through rockwall islands and others walls on forest colony and hit for damage.

#2 costi

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

Confirmed, had the same thing happen to me. A swarm of LRMs passed through solid rock just in front of me.

#3 Chemie

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

happened on caustic for me

#4 MagicM0E

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

Have seen the missiles pass through rocks/buildings/obstructions but they didn't appear to cause any damage.

#5 wolf74

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

Been many of time where I have gone behind build and rock formations and have the missile "graphic" pass though it even rocks my mech but my armor does not take the damage. Keep an eye on your armor next time it happens to you there a 95% chance you going to take 0 damage.

#6 Monky

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

Likely a bug for the missile graphic rather than hits, still not good but not game breaking.

#7 Crashingmail

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

Happend to me too on Forest Colony, but they did 0 dmg...

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:58 AM

Yesterday right after the patch there was a strange behavior with enemy Rockets. My ping is about 125ms, FPS around 30.

I played Forest Colony with Hunchback and was locked by an enemy. Someone from other base west fired some LRMs (iguess LRM 5, maybe 2x2 streaks?!) and i began to hide behind the rock in G7.

Forest Colony
(picture from http://mwomercs.com/...28-map-layouts/ )

Than the rockets still hit and i saw them coming through that rock from west northwest. I walked some steps back and they dont hit anymore, but i still seen them coming through. Then i walked again right behind the rock and they hit me again. From my point of view there definitly was an obstacle between me and the trajectory.

A friend who played with me said the rockets flown around the rock. Im not shure if he ment the same rockets. And why they shouldnt hit anymore if i open the angle by walking away from the rock? (Maybe a problem with a max acute angel of rockets?)

I suppose this bugreport has to be confirmed. Especially cause i dont know what kind of rockets hit me.

Edit:
There we go: http://mwomercs.com/...rough-rockwall/

Edited by Povier, 21 November 2012 - 05:06 AM.


#9 Povier

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:09 AM

"... 0 dmg ..."

my experience: move closer to the obstacle and you get a hit.

see my bug report: http://mwomercs.com/...-forest-colony/

#10 FLes

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:52 AM

I also noticed missiles going trough many different objects. Can't remember If I took any dmg.

#11 Firewuff

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:58 AM

I've seen the explosion through a solid wall but agree, I didnt notice any damage.

#12 Inveramsay

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 03:40 AM

I've gotten hit quite a few times with no damage being done. It's been all maps but mostly in ones where there is hill or something like it in the way, rarely through buildings. Classic places are the shelf in the middle of forest by the cave entrance and the lower rocks on the 7 line on caustic.

#13 Pablocampy

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

This has been happening to me since I first got in, probably 3 or so months before closed beta.

As a previous poster mentioned, the missiles appear to hit and rock my cockpit (hue hue hue), but no actual damage is done.

I'm guessing this is a disparity between my clients view and the server view.

#14 Karenai

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

I got called a cheater for this.
It can happen two ways.
Either the rockets DO fly trough the rock but do zero damage. Which is not that tragic.

I see the no collision but no damage in forest colony mostly.
G7 rock, shooting from red side.
H7 rock, shooting from red side.

Or the other thing happens. It did happen before, but I guess with the extreme drop in fps I see it more.

So, I target someone, let LRM fly. Lose lock because 5-12fps infight especially while moving the cockpit to the sides.
My missiles are half way to the target when I regain lock thanks to some insane scout in the front.
Now my missiles fly right beside the mountain, past it and do a 90° or more swing towards the target at the very last moment.
Mech gets bombarded by LRM from his front, which is a big ugly mountain. I get called a cheater.

Tried to do it on purpose, but am way too uncoordinated to pull it off. Essentially the missiles fly AROUND the mountain and drop on the target almost like the old Artemis IV ones.


PS: I one shoted a commando today because of this. He ran WAY away, behind big rocks up and down mountains. I lost lock two times. Because of the lock loss and him running around I had five full 2x20LRM salvos in the air with him as a target. And two of my LRM salvos came in from UNDER him at the same exact moment. (he was running uphill and they changed direction about one meter above the water, which was about 30m under him at that moment) He almost stackpoled.

#15 Silent Hunter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:04 AM

Playing a match today and I watched as several LRMs passed through the building I was behind.

#16 Aphel

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:15 AM

I experienced something similar, but in my case I was hit by multiple volleys standing behind a big rock.

To explain it in detail:
It was a match on the forrest colony map and I hid behind a rock, tried to sneak a little bit forth to hit something and stayed in the open a little bit to long :wub: so I got hit from the first volley of LRMs.
I walked back behind the rock and was hit by the second volley, so I decided to walk a little bit more backwards. I was definitely behind the rock after that moment and I did clearly see that the LRM volley was flying straight through the rock and hit me.
After that the mech shooting at me obviously lost his lock on me.

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#17 Haxxplz

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:23 AM

I've had this happen to me a lot of times, especially on forest colony and frozen city. It's not an issue exclusive to this patch.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:30 AM

The LRM flightpath and collision detection is awful right now. You either hit nothing at all because the LRMs crash into the tiniest hill or they fly right through stuff.
The patch before Artemis they were just fine, albeit with a bit much damage maybe. I wish they'd just roll back to that patch when it comes to LRMs only with the damage now.

Flying through a rock seems to be happening on Forrest mostly. I got hit in the small area that is blocked in the snow version. Only I stood further back where the wall is almost 90°.

#19 Xendojo

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 05:09 AM

I am pretty sure this is a known thing. So it's on the list somewhere, just probably not on top right now.

#20 Silent Hunter

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 05:26 AM

For me i was the upper city of River city. I got the 'Incoming Missiles' warning so backed up behind a building, The lock was broken as the missiles passed within a few metres of the front of my mech through the building.

Edit: Aha it was here all along: http://mwomercs.com/...eedback-merged/

Edited by Silent Hunter, 23 November 2012 - 05:27 AM.






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