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[Zylo]

pursang, on 04 May 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Ugh. There is just no hope for you.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that you believe that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny exists.

I think this is a better fit for the rant about the TWolf:

[Zakatak]

Opus, on 04 May 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

it is like throwing gas on a fire, speaking of which . . . . .

• AWS-9M - The 9M is an upgrade of the Awesome that uses Star League technologies, and was introduced in 3049^[5]. The 'Mech is built around a 320 Hermes XL Fusion engine, giving the 'Mech a top speed of 64.8 km/h. The heat sinks were upgraded to double heat sinks to allow this variant to be rearmed with three Fusigon Longtooth ER PPCs. The ER PPCs are backed up by two Hovertec Streak SRM-2s, a Magna 400P Medium Pulse Laser, and a Diverse Optics Type 10 Small Pulse Laser. BV (1.0) = 1,469^[1], BV (2.0) = 1,812^[9]

• opps

This can be what the T-54 is to World of Tanks.

Tactical advantage? Yes. But hey, what does it cost, 30 million C-bills? Respect earned.

Edited by Zakatak, 04 May 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[Haakon Valravn]

Rejarial Galatan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

I cut my teeth as Clan Wolf, NOT as a freebirth. I am blooded to the clans, not the innersphere. My loyalties are to Clan Wolf, till then, I work for the DCMS.

I trust that you at least will have the honor to commit seppuku before going over, quiaff?

[Rejarial Galatan]

Haakon Valravn, on 04 May 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

I trust that you at least will have the honor to commit seppuku before going over, quiaff?

If you mean run headlong at you and kill my heat sensors and just open fire with all my lasers until we BOTH explode? yup. and now to make my self seem old, to quote the baby from the show: Dinosaurs: AGAIN!

[Haakon Valravn]

In that event, I recommend getting in contact with Kindraa Sainze of Clan Fire Mandrill. They can assist you in the appropriate ritual and procedure.

[Rejarial Galatan]

<growls> I may fight for the DCMS at the moment, but my heart is of Clan Wolf. You wish to see what YOURS looks like freebirth?

OOC: explination of how THIS works, in terms of my loyalty, its in the sig.

[Haakon Valravn]

Ah. I thought you were a Warrior, not a Scientist. My apologies. I have no need to see my heart, as I am quite well, thank you. This relevation does go far in explaining your two-faced, chalcas ways, however.

[Rejarial Galatan]

<growls menacingly then launches at Haakons chest with a combat knife> I shall rip your heart from your chest and feed it to you before you draw your last breath freebirth!

OOC: from here out, find me on the field of battle. or uh, waiting for it...

Edited by Rejarial Galatan, 04 May 2012 - 09:18 PM.

[Elder St00bert]

Ummm... Yeah. Listen you two; there are gonna be some nice people coming to take you to your new "apartments". They're going to have some nice new jackets with lots of buckles and zippers for you.. OK?

If you're good, I'll have Mom bring you down some pizza rolls and Capri Sun while we wait... K?

[Rejarial Galatan]

dont make me roll this car over!

[EDMW CSN]

Goldhawk is kinda right. Remember we are the grunts that the Kuritas would happily throw us to fend off the Clanners in a suicide charge. We are the boots on the ground. Maybe worse, since Kuritians think mercs are the mud instead.

All of us will not be getting the spiffy 3050 tech until we earned it. We are NOT WD, GDL, KH, Legion of Vega, Otomo, whatever.

Heck we should be just glad we got a working PPC or a mech that is at least fully repaired before battle.

[Corbon Zackery]

I hate to break the news to you but battletech wiki has the Gauss Rifle pop up around 3040 when the Free World League discovered the Helm Memory Core so it is a valid item that can be used in the game with 9 years of production. Its manufactured on 10 planets.

Beagle Active Probe It was recovered in 3045 by the Capellan Confederation

The Guardian ECM Suite was introduced in 2597 by the Terran Hegemony So it was never really lost.

Check Battletech wiki before you start demanding that weapons be taken out of the games.

Not trusting ComStar in this matter, the Legion produced several copies of the library and spread them to the best of their abilities, initially by handing over copies to free traders. The library core thus found its way into every Successor State within a few years, and sparked a technological renaissance. The Legion also gave a copy of the Core to Duke Ricol for aiding in their escape. He would eventually provide it to Theodore Kurita and the Draconis Combine.^[5]
The Helm Memory Core's most vital function was as a sort of Rosetta Stone. With the Memory Core's information, many half-understood Star League documents suddenly made sense. This led to the improved military equipment, medical treatments, and purification equipment for water, atmospheres, and whole planetary environments

So the Helm Mem Core distributed by free traders becomes the Rosetta Stone that allow all the house to unlock this tech.

Cliff notes:

• The Price of Glory, p. 233
  
• ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} The Price of Glory, p. 148
  
• ↑ The Price of Glory, pp. 188, 235
  
• ↑ The Price of Glory, p. 295

Thanks

Edited by Corbon Zackery, 04 May 2012 - 10:39 PM.

[Rejarial Galatan]

+1 internet cats to Corbon Zackery.

[Thomas Hogarth]

Vollstrecker, on 04 May 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

One point for weapons availability. Sure, the Gauss Rifle had been prototyped and seen limited production earlier than the Clan Invasion, but if you recall from the Blood of Kerensky trilogy, Phelan had to have Natasha explain what a Gauss Rifle was.

One of the most elite units of the time with blood relation to the ruling family had no idea about the weapon. I don't anticipate us "no-names" on the fringes to see that for a long time.

The novel you are describing was written before the decision was made to have the IS not sit on it's hands for 22 years. Ergo, the novel is wrong. As novels rate rather low on the totem pole of canon, no issues here.

Rejarial Galatan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Timber_Wolf I will copy the VERY FIRST LINE, for those who dont click links: The Timber Wolf is a fast heavy OmniMech. A signature design of the Clans' military might, it was arguably the first Clan OmniMech encountered by Inner Sphere forces (as opposed to periphery forces) on The Rock in 3049 by Phelan Kell.^[2][4][5]

so, yes, seen in the InnerSphere in 3049 by none other than Phelan Kell himself.

this would make it A: exceedingly RARE for IS forces to field, OR B: EXCEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE for IS forces to field in 3049

Most people in the IS didn't even believe the very rare and scattered reports of attacks in the periphery were true when they heard them in LATE 3049. Considering it took that long for rumor to travel, with HPGs, I might add, any salvaged tech wouldn't arrive until, you guessed it, 3050.

And in order for that salvage to arrive in the first place, someone somewhere would have had to deliver a decisive victory against the invaders. Name one place this occurred. protip: you cannot.

Rejarial Galatan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Considering I am Draconis Combine UNTIL i can play AS Clan Wolf, it would stand to reason that if the Combine has access to said tech, they can start fielding it.

Considering you've exposed your incredibly selfish bias towards ignoring canon - and strategic common sense* - there is no real reason to take this seriously.

*The IS didn't immediately field salvaged 'Mechs and tech. Instead, they wisely chose to take these invaluable examples of technology they did not understand into the laboratories and reverse-engineer them, which would then produce fruit in the form of the 3055 IS Omnis.

Rejarial Galatan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

never gonna convince me that the CHANCE to get my hands on a timber wolf before we hit 2013 is 0% even if its a 1% chance, I will live and die by that hope. Everyone else is getting the mechs they want. IS mechs are beyond limited, style wise and well, loadout wise. I want clan omnimechs and you will never stomp that hope from me.


this game aint reality, its bloody fiction. so, reality works how ever PAUL says it does, but considering the vast hate for such a POWERFUL and EXCELLENT warmachine, its gonna be boring until clan play can be accessed or until clan tech can be fielded, in terms of mechs. My hope will never die, you shall never kill the flame of hope that burns in me.

You realize that if the devs make clantech and clans playable at the same date that salvaged clan Omnimechs are used in battle in more than twos and threes, we'll be waiting not one year, but a few years?

But that's okay, because you're a warrior. And a warrior is, by definition, a professional. Professionals care not for what tools they have - they use what they have at their disposal to the best of their abilities. It is amateurs who constantly seek better tools to gain the advantage instead of looking within.

[Rejarial Galatan]

TH: you assume alot about me huh. I am for canon as law and zero deviation. I say: eject common sense, we are gamers arguing about a game that isnt even released yet, we forswore common sense when this fight began. And you assume that the clock that is 1 day irl is 1 day in mwo will stay that way once launch happens. There is a HUGE time line to work with, and given that we will jump system to system, time acceleration is in place, since the devs will NOT make us wait a week IRL to ya know, play again if we leave a system for a diff one. ALSO, they may very well jump us ahead as certain events are triggered. Who knows? I dont, you dont. Paul does.

[chewie]

sorry bout this, but rant on.....


Just because its in the TRO, and says it was re-introduced, doesn't mean it is widely available to ALL.

When I saw the title of this thread, i thought someone had finally decided to put into words what a lot of us are thinking.


STOP ASKING FOR CLAN MECHS YOU *EXPLETIVE DELETED*


But seriously, I sometimes wish this was being done at the time frame of the original reboot vid, 3015.

Then it would be a level field. Although we'd still have to put up with whining clan babies because they haven't got access to their munch machines.....

ok, I'm done, not that it matter much in the end.

[Rejarial Galatan]

going to be 100% blunt. I fully expect to see clan mechs in this game. I have 0 idea when they will cross my path, but, i FULLY expect to see them, and when we get clans as a faction, to PILOT them. Do i expect it at launch? not a whole lot. to say we NEVER will see or pilot them is folly.

[Thomas Hogarth]

chewie, on 04 May 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

But seriously, I sometimes wish this was being done at the time frame of the original reboot vid, 3015.

This.

[Rejarial Galatan]

its 3049, and clans are on our doorstep. the tech is coming, patience gets it here. and i am willing to bet that, as the game gets rolling, they may alter our progression through the time line from 1:1 to faster to suit the game play and needs of a growing population of players.

[Thomas Hogarth]

Yeah, but out of all the MW games, only MW1 was IS only. Since Clan fans have had MW2, MW2GBL, MW2Mercs, MW3, MW3PM, MW4, and MW4Mercs, some of us were hoping MWO would be a place for IS to shine for awhile. At least, longer than half a year. There is still hope for 2 or 3 years.