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[FerretGR]

Neither of those games have available demos according to my google-fu

[EternalCore]

FerretGR, on 01 December 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Neither of those games have available demos according to my google-fu

Now a days there aren't many demos because it's just easier to make trailers then it is to make a fully playable demo... Also at this point in time, there are 0 games that you can compare to MWO with the CryEnge3.4; atleast not until Crysis3 and FarCry3 comes out.

Edited by EternalCore, 01 December 2012 - 01:07 PM.

[fxrsniper]

FerretGR, on 01 December 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Neither of those games have available demos according to my google-fu

I apologize FarCry 3 is not on CryEngine 3 some reason Ubisoft is using there Dunia 2 Engine I read an article saying that it was but I guess Ubisoft changed there mind

Edited by fxrsniper, 01 December 2012 - 01:13 PM.

[FerretGR]

I appreciate your input guys. I think you'd both agree though that I should be doing better than 10-15 frames in combat, despite my middle-of-the-road chip. I'm just looking for modest, middle of the road performance, like what I get at worst in other games... ie. the 30-40 frames I was getting in this game when this engine was first introduced.

[fxrsniper]

FerretGR, on 01 December 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

I appreciate your input guys. I think you'd both agree though that I should be doing better than 10-15 frames in combat, despite my middle-of-the-road chip. I'm just looking for modest, middle of the road performance, like what I get at worst in other games... ie. the 30-40 frames I was getting in this game when this engine was first introduced.

DirectX 11 should help a lot

[EternalCore]

fxrsniper, on 01 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

I apologize FarCry 3 is not on CryEngine 3 some reason Ubisoft is using there Dunia 2 Engine I read an article saying that it was but I guess Ubisoft changed there mind

It's still a heavily modded version of the CryEngine, so it's in the same category as Crysis3 and MWO.

Edited by EternalCore, 01 December 2012 - 02:01 PM.

[PiWright42]

fxrsniper, on 01 December 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

Dont worry to much about Windows Exp. the only reason you scored that high was because of the SSD

FX series not so good there just not performing as well as they should be VS like the Phenom 2 CPU's

Not always true CryEngine 3.4 is resource heavy also everyone needs to keep in mind that we're all on DirectX 9 not 11

Thank you fxrsniper and EternalCore. I should learn to pay more attention to what I am shopping for. LOL

To be honest, fxrsniper, that is the lowest score and it was the CPU that dealt the 6.1. The SSD only scored a 6.6 but that is because it is a SATA III drive on a SATA II mobo. Memory scored a 7.0 and the vid card gave a 7.6. The Win EXP Index is not scored on an average, (in this case that would be just about a 6.9), but the lowest performing major component of your PC. To me the idea is so you can beeline right to what ails you most when you decide to upgrade. Still as the SSD score implies your mobo can be a bottle neck and the Win EXP Index would never tell you otherwise if you did not already know about it's limitations. A point that EternalCore eloquently drove home with his observation that my haggard old arsed mobo still has a positively jurassic frontside bus.

I will start to look at Phenom II Black Editions now. Again thank you both for the heads up, I'd of walked right into that glittery pitfall without it. With luck, in a month, I'll be able to play this game proper.

Edited by PiWright42, 01 December 2012 - 11:03 PM.

[fxrsniper]

PiWright42, on 01 December 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Thank you fxrsniper and EternalCore. I should learn to pay more attention to what I am shopping for. LOL

To be honest, fxrsniper, that is the lowest score and it was the CPU that dealt the 6.1. The SSD only scored a 6.6 but that is because it is a SATA III drive on a SATA II mobo. Memory scored a 7.0 and the vid card gave a 7.6. The Win EXP Index is not scored on an average, (in this case that would be just about a 6.9), but the lowest performing major component of your PC. To me the idea is so you can beeline right to what ails you most when you decide to upgrade. Still as the SSD score implies your mobo can be a bottle neck and the Win EXP Index would never tell you otherwise if you did not already know about it's limitations. A point that EternalCore eloquently drove home with his observation that my haggard old arsed mobo still has a positively jurassic frontside bus.

I will start to look at Phenom II Black Editions now. Again thank you both for the heads up, I'd of walked right into that glittery pitfall without it. With luck, in a month, I'll be able to play this game proper.

Depending on how much money you can spend you can build decent for about $400 you video card is about min req but usable or you can get this CPU but hurry before there all gone http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727 if you can spend a little money let me know we have a certain build we use for gaming that's very affective for all games we've thrown at it.

[PiWright42]

fxrsniper, on 01 December 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

Depending on how much money you can spend you can build decent for about $400 you video card is about min req but usable or you can get this CPU but hurry before there all gone http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727 if you can spend a little money let me know we have a certain build we use for gaming that's very affective for all games we've thrown at it.

Hahahahaha! No lying I just ordered it from Newegg not two minutes before I read your response here, (TigerDirect also has the same processor but for 5 samoleons more). 85 bucks with free shipping? Oh I got that plus a tube of Arctic Sliver 5 and was still under 100 smacks. Still have enough to get some winter riding gloves and possibly an alright motorcycle jacket or a new Bell Vortex skull bucket. Thanks for keeping an eye out.

Two weeks from now I'll get the new mobo and possibly the DDR3 ram it wants.

[BIGROBOTINNIT]

Just as a word of warning to all.

If you install ATI Tray manager, it will give you an FPS overlay in your top right corner.

If you then use a VOIP such as mumble, and have the mumble overlay enabled - your game may fail to start (and constantly crash to desktop).

I have just had this issue, and solved it as per THIS thread.

It seems MWO doesn't like more than one overlay.

Hope this helps.

[EternalCore]

BIGROBOTINNIT, on 02 December 2012 - 05:27 AM, said:

Just as a word of warning to all.

If you install ATI Tray manager, it will give you an FPS overlay in your top right corner.

If you then use a VOIP such as mumble, and have the mumble overlay enabled - your game may fail to start (and constantly crash to desktop).

I have just had this issue, and solved it as per THIS thread.

It seems MWO doesn't like more than one overlay.

Hope this helps.

I Recommend submitting that information you have collected to the Devs, so that they can add it to their database of solutions.
Submit it, fully detailed here: http://mwomercs.com/support

[Legion Tauk]

EternalCore, on 30 November 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

His whole Motherboard, CPU and Ram is his bottle neck as he is under using that video-card which is most likely on PCI-E v1-1.5!.. And he's most likely using DDR2 memory.

wrong guess..

You are right my mother board and processor not a mainframe
but not a time to change it, becouse other games and application work normaly and correct.

about RAM - DDR3 10666
other games (also new games) work good on hi-res with 40-60 FPS.
i think problem with cryengine 3 and its work with resoures.

[EternalCore]

Legion Tauk, on 02 December 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

wrong guess..

You are right my mother board and processor not a mainframe
but not a time to change it, becouse other games and application work normaly and correct.

about RAM - DDR3 10666
other games (also new games) work good on hi-res with 40-60 FPS.
i think problem with cryengine 3 and its work with resoures.

Here's the major factor: Does your Motherboard still use a Front-Side-Bus instead of Hyper-Threading?

[Jonny Amalgamated]

Gave it a try and still no good...

I was getting pretty good FPS until two patches ago, but then it all went down the drain.

I am currently running the following:

AMD Athlon II X2 215 Processor 2.70 GHZ
4 GB
Nvidia EVGA GTX560 1GB

Yes, I know with the 4 GB of memory I am going to have **** poor FPS, but as I said, I was getting pretty decent FPS before two patches ago (decent being 15-25 FPS while playing, as opposed to now where I am getting 3 to 9 FPS while playing).

[EternalCore]

Jonny Amalgamated, on 02 December 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Gave it a try and still no good...

I was getting pretty good FPS until two patches ago, but then it all went down the drain.

I am currently running the following:

AMD Athlon II X2 215 Processor 2.70 GHZ
4 GB
Nvidia EVGA GTX560 1GB

Yes, I know with the 4 GB of memory I am going to have **** poor FPS, but as I said, I was getting pretty decent FPS before two patches ago (decent being 15-25 FPS while playing, as opposed to now where I am getting 3 to 9 FPS while playing).

Your computer is too old for this to work on it as it is still using a Front-Side-Bus instead of HyperTransport. Also your video card is the only thing worth salvaging as your current system is choking it....

[BIGROBOTINNIT]

EternalCore, on 02 December 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

I Recommend submitting that information you have collected to the Devs, so that they can add it to their database of solutions.
Submit it, fully detailed here: http://mwomercs.com/support

I've sent them a mail and had the automated response. See if they do anything with it now.

[EternalCore]

BIGROBOTINNIT, on 02 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

I've sent them a mail and had the automated response. See if they do anything with it now.

They should get back to you tomorrow.

[Tesunie]

I tried this. Didn't help. I even went so far as to turn other settings to make it process better/faster but not as nice. Still nothing so far. I also get a "Unsupported Video Card Detected" notice.The message reads like this: "Unsupported Video Card Detected" [vender id= 0x10de, device id= 0x0423]
Don't know if that helps any. My system specs are:
Windows Vista
4 GB ram
AMD 64 x2 dual core 5000+ 2.60 GHz
Nvidia Geforce 8300 6s

I think the problem is that error code I'm running into. But my computer isn't a new one, so it might just not be up to snuff to play the game right, though adding more RAM seemed to help.

[EternalCore]

Tesunie, on 02 December 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

I tried this. Didn't help. I even went so far as to turn other settings to make it process better/faster but not as nice. Still nothing so far. I also get a "Unsupported Video Card Detected" notice.The message reads like this: "Unsupported Video Card Detected" [vender id= 0x10de, device id= 0x0423]
Don't know if that helps any. My system specs are:
Windows Vista
4 GB ram
AMD 64 x2 dual core 5000+ 2.60 GHz
Nvidia Geforce 8300 6s

I think the problem is that error code I'm running into. But my computer isn't a new one, so it might just not be up to snuff to play the game right, though adding more RAM seemed to help.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This Fix requires a computer with HyperTransport(AMD) or Hyper-Threading(Intel);
And It will NOT work for an older computer with a Front-Side-Bus which is outdated.

[Tesunie]

EternalCore, on 02 December 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

IMPORTANT NOTE: This Fix requires a computer with HyperTransport(AMD) or Hyper-Threading(Intel);
And It will NOT work for an older computer with a Front-Side-Bus which is outdated.

Figured it couldn't hurt to try, seen as I have no idea what you mean by those terms. Not to mention, my computer doesn't tell me which format it is...

So basically, my computer is probably too old and out dated to play this game. Any idea what's causing the "unsuported video card" message? Or is that because my video card is also too far out of date? (You seem to be a man in the know about this kind of stuff.)